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Gayfield Square

School for Girls

1865

Where was this photo taken? 

 Answer:  Hillside Crescent Gardens.  See Reply 3

Gayfield Square School for Girls, 1865

©   Reproduced with acknowledgement to Trustees of National Museum of Scotland  (Photo is from their Scottish Life Archive.)
Please click here to read restrictions applying to the use of this photo.

 

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     Gayfield Square School for Girls, 1865 ©

 

Gayfield Square School for Girls

1865

Thank you to John Dickie for providing this copy of a Scottish Life Archive photo from the Broughton History Society's collection.  A copy of this photo was included in a Broughton History Society Exhibition in 2006.

John added that he had not  been able to find any mention of this school in old editions of  Edinburgh & Leith Post Office Directory, but had found mentions in Scotsman Archive of what might have been earlier versions of the same institution.  i.e.

-  Gayfield Square Ladies' School  Sep 1835, 12 Dec 1835, 10 Dec 1836

-  Gayfield Square Ladies' Institution  22 Sep 1838, Adverts 1838, Oct 1839

-  Gayfield Square Academy  11 Sep 1852

Questions

John asks:

1.  Is this photo likely to have been taken at Gayfield Square? 
These buildings no longer appear to be in Gayfield Square.
Perhaps they were demolished to make way for the Police Station on the south side of the square.

2,  Where was this school based?  John has found schools with similar names, but not an exact match, in the Edinburgh & Leith Post Office Directories, but not found any school listed at Gayfield Square.

3.  What was the occasion when this photo was taken?  Looking at the number of people in the photo, it seems that the school may have been quite a large establishment in 1865.

Acknowledgement: John Dickie, Broughton, Edinburgh:  June 8, 2010

Reply to John Dickie?

If you know the answers to any of John's questions above, please email me, then I'll pass your message on to him.     Thank you.

Peter Stubbs:  June 8, 2010

 

Replies

1.

Gary Gray
Craigour, Edinburgh

-  Hopetoun Crescent?

2.

Ben
Edinburgh

-  Hillside Crescent

3.

Ben
Edinburgh

-  Gayfield Square School for Girls

4.

Danny Callaghan
Falkirk, Stirlingshire, Scotland

-  Hopetoun Crescent

-  Old Maps

5.

Bryan Gourlay
Biggar, Lanarkshire, Scotland

-  Hopetoun Crescent

6.

Graham Hogg
Edinburgh

-  Book Plate

 

Reply

1.

Gary Gray

Craigour, Edinburgh

Thank you to Gary Gray, Craigour, Edinburgh, who wrote:

Hopetoun Crescent?

     Gayfield Square School for Girls, 1865 ©

"Might this photograph have been taken just down the road in Hopetoun Crescent? There is a building halfway along the Crescent with a similar design (although it isnít an end building as in the picture)."

Acknowledgement: Gary Gray, Craigour, Edinburgh:  June 15, 2010

Hopetoun Crescent

The Gardens on the south side of Hopetoun Crescent were the site of Edinburgh's Royal Botanic Garden, before the garden moved to Inverleith in 1820.

 

 Reply

2.

Ben

Edinburgh

Thank you to Ben, Edinburgh, who wrote:

Hillside Crescent

     Gayfield Square School for Girls, 1865 ©

"The old school photo was taken in Hillside Crescent, very near to where this recent Google Street View photo was taken. 

The building in the background in the old photo is no longer present, but the surrounding buildings are still standing.  I hope to take some pictures tomorrow, to give you a better update.

The pillars windows and doors in the old photo match those in the buildings slightly farther north.. 

Some of the original Playfair-designed park railings from 1822 have survived the war.  They are at the North and South ends of the gardens."

Ben, Edinburgh:  June 16, 2010

 

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3.

Ben

Edinburgh

Thank you to Ben for providing the comprehensive reply below, backed up by some of his recent photographs of the area, on his Flickr web site, which I have reproduced (converted to monochrome) below.

It now seems to me to be almost certain that the 1865 Gayfield Square School for Girls would have been taken in the gardens on the south side of Hillside Crescent.

Gayfield Square School for Girls

"The railings in the original shot reminded me of the last time I was on Hillside Crescent Gardens, waiting to get into the RAF club.

 

Gayfield Square School for Girls, 1865

©  Photograph from Scottish Life Archive,
reproduced with acknowledgement to Trustees of National Museum of Scotland

 

Hillside Crescent and West side of Brunswick Street

I believe that this picture was taken from the same spot as the 1865 photo above.  Sadly, the railings have been removed and the old building has been replaced, but the tree looks right, albeit about 150 years older now. 

The trees were planted about 1840 as part of the garden improvements, so this seems possible.

Hillside Crescent Gardens, and the junction of Hillside Crescent and the east side of Brunswick Street, 2010

©  Ben, Edinburgh                                                                                                Photograph taken 2010

 

Hillside Crescent and West side of Brunswick Street

"The house below, with its distinctive double Doric columns between windows and doors, and the first floor grid railings, is on the corner of  Hillside Crescent and West side of Brunswick Street.

It seems to be  a good match for the one that would have stood opposite on the east side of Brunswick Street, that can be seen in the background of the 1865 photo."

The junction of Hillside Crescent and the east side of Brunswick Street, 2010

©  Ben, Edinburgh                                               Photograph taken 2010

 

The Railings

"Just to finish it off, at the start of the crescent, is a small patch of very distinctive William Playfair railings that escaped wartime scrappage.  They have octagonal (not round as everywhere else) decorative tops that match the old picture.

The house in the background (No 4) has the 12-panel lower and 15- panel first floor windows from almost two hundred years ago."

             Railings at the western end of Hillside Crescent Gardens.  No 4, Hillside Crescent in the background, 2010

©  Ben, Edinburgh                                                                                                Photograph taken 2010

 

Ben added:

Recent Developments

"The new building in the first picture (Elliot House) was built in 1967, the lot being available due to the earlier houses built in the area suffering badly from subsidence.

The park area was finally compulsorily purchased by the council in 1952 due to the lack of funding for upkeep by the local residents and general decay."

Ben, Edinburgh:  June 17, 2010

 

Reply

4.

Danny Callaghan

Falkirk, Stirlingshire, Scotland

Thank you to Danny Callaghan who wrote:

Hopetoun Crescent

     Gayfield Square School for Girls, 1865 ©

Old Maps

"Ben (Reply 3) comments about waiting to get into the RAF club.   The building in the picture behind the ladies is the RAF club.  The first floor railings are missing.

The building to the left of it, where Elliot House now stands, had clearly been demolished by time of 1865 picture.  You can see the ragged ends of masonry.

I was involved in installing office furniture when Elliot House was first  occupied by Standard Life, about 1969.   I remember that before we could install the shelving system we had to steel-plate the floor to help spread the load."

Danny Callaghan, Falkirk, Stirlingshire, Scotland:  June 28, 2010 + Aug 24, 2010

 

Reply

5.

Bryan Gourlay

Biggar, Lanarkshire, Scotland

Thank you to Danny Callaghan who wrote:

Hopetoun Crescent

     Gayfield Square School for Girls, 1865 ©

"I have no specialist knowledge of the area. However, the 1876 Ordnance Survey map shows there was no building on the east corner of Brunswick Street at its junction with Hillside Crescent - or on the west side, for that matter.

The 1876 map shows only one building on Hillside Crescent to the east of Brunswick Street.  It was about 40 yards from the corner Ė which could still be the one in the photo, of course -  some way to the right of Benís recent photo of the east corner. Perhaps this building is still there.

By the time of the 1894 map there were buildings on both corners of Brunswick Street.

Zooming in on both maps above, there are steps down to the lower level, and leading up, presumably to the front entrance.  There were also other bits sticking out the front, which are not obvious in the photo."

Bryan Gourlay, Biggar, Lanarkshire, Scotland:  June 30, 2010

Reply

6.

Graham Hogg

National Library of Scotland, Edinburgh

Thank you to Dr Graham Hogg who wrote:

Book Plate

"I have just received a donation of a book with this bookplate of the library of Gayfield Square Ladiesí School."

     Bookplate from the Library of Gayfield Square Ladies School ©

"The donorís late husband was related to people who ran the school.

The donor gave me the following information:
(I've not verified it.)"

Gayfield Square Ladies' College

-  The Anderson family moved to 7 Gayfield Square and opened the school in 1834.

-  Euphemia [Anderson] ran the school with the help of her brother Robert, who also gave classes in other places in Edinburgh.

-  Anne Urquhart, from Perth, also helped in the school at different times.

-  Amongst the scholars were Lady Rollo's daughter, a neighbour, and William, son of Dr Alexander Duff who became a missionary in India.

-  The school lasted about 25 years.

-  The Andersons and the Urquharts had been close friends for many years, partly through business connections.

-  Anne Urquhart married Euphemia's brother, Charles. They were the great grandparents of the donor's husband.

 

Teacher

"In an Edinburgh & Leith Post Office Directory for the 1850s, a Robert Anderson is listed at 7 Gayfield Square as a 'Teacher of Natural History and Physical Science'."

School Name

"I'm assuming that in 1838 Gayfield Square Ladies School was renamed the Gayfield Square Ladies' Institution, before becoming the Gayfield Square Academy in the 1850s."

Graham Hogg, National Library of Scotland, Edinburgh:  December 3, 2010

 

School Classes

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