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Recollections

Leith Shipping

 

Recollections

1.

Jimmy Cairns

Clermiston, Edinburgh

Paddle Steamer  'The Mayflower'

2.

Jimmy Cairns

Clermiston, Edinburgh

Supplying Inchkeith
      - from the Shore

3.

John Stevenson

Trinity, Edinburgh

Supplying Inchkeith
      - from beside Robb's shipyard

4.

Walter Lyle Hume

Cowes, Isle of Wight, England

Supplying Inchkeith
      - from Newhaven

5.

Bob Sinclair

Queensland, Australia

Cargo Ship:  'Amelia'

6.

Terry McGuire

Coventry, Warwickshire, England

Cargo Ship:  'Amelia'

7.

Michelle Thissen

St Andrews, Fife, Scotland

Question

-  Sailing from Antwerp

8.

John Stevenson

Trinity, Edinburgh

Answer 1

-  Sailing from Antwerp

9.

Connie Newman

Tonbridge, Kent

Answer 2

-  Sailing from Antwerp

-  Brochure Photos

-  Fares

10.

John Stevenson

Trinity, Edinburgh

Answer 3

-  Sailing from Antwerp - Ships

11.

John Stevenson

Trinity, Edinburgh

Answer 3

-  Sailing from Antwerp - Journey Times

12.

Gerry MacFarlane
Swindon, Wiltshire, England

MV Ettrick

 

Recollections

1.

Jimmy Cairns

Clermiston, Edinburgh

Jimmy Cairns wrote:

Paddle Steamer -  'The Mayflower'

"I am remember a Paddle Steamer that sailed out of Leith.  She berthed outside the Customs House next to Bernard St Bridge.  I am going back a long time, to 1939. 

She was called 'The Mayflower'.

 Do you have any record of this or do you know where I can obtain such information?  I was just curious to know what happened to her."

Jimmy Cairns, Clermiston, Edinburgh:  March 30, 2007

I've not yet been able to find an answer to Jimmy's question.

 If you think you may be able to help to answer it, please e-mail me.

Thank you.  -  Peter Stubbs:  April 2, 2007

  

Recollections

2.

Jimmy Cairns

Clermiston, Edinburgh

Jimmy Cairns added:

Supplying Inchkeith  -  from The Shore

"My father tried to start a business in supplying all the Island with food for the Army during World War II, but did not succeed.  He had two boats at the shore.

I must be the only laddie that ever set foot on Inchkeith during the war."

Jimmy Cairns:  March 30, 2007

Recollections

3.

John Stevenson

Trinity, Edinburgh

John Stevenson, Edinburgh, replied:

Supplying Inchkeith  -  from beside Robb's Ship Yard

"I knew, early in 1940, the RASC were given the task of 'storing' the islands in the Firth of Forth using two adapted  ex MFV's (Motor Fishing Vessel's).

These were based at the north end of Robb's ship yard, just short of what now  remains of the old  west wooden pier.

When I started 'my time' at Robb's in 1948, one vessel and five men were still working away like a 'forgotten army' supplying just Inchkeith. By the end of the year they had been 'demobbed'."

John Stevenson, Trinity, Edinburgh: April 2, 2007

 

Recollections

4.

Walter Lyle Hume

Cowes, Isle of Wight, England

Walter Lyle Hume, Cowes, Isle of Wight added:

Supplying Leith  -  from Newhaven

"I used to help Dougie and Burney McInnes on the MFV 'Twin Brothers' which had been chartered to the War Department for this purpose.

Army lorries delivered items to the slipway at Newhaven Harbour or the Fish Market Quay at low tide, 40 gallon drums of paraffin oil, numerous boxes of assorted victuals and baskets of clean laundry which had to be stowed in the hold to keep them dry,

Inchkeith was a popular call as plenty of tea and sugar could be obtained.  This service was taken over by the War Department vessel 'Playfair', a purpose built steam-driven boat similar in size and appearance to a Drifter, with a berth at the West Pier, next to where the RASC launches lay.  'The Playfair' was sold to Orkney 1945.

Although being a tidal harbour. Newhaven was very busy during the war, frequented by many of the inshore patrol MFV's"

Walter Lyle Hume, Cowes, Isle of Wight, England: April 2, 2007

 

 Recollections

5.

Bob Sinclair

Queensland, Australia

Bob Sinclair, Queensland, Australia wrote:

Cargo Ship:  'Amelia'

"My wife, Margaret Rhind, lived in 2 Dock Place in Leith.  She wonders if any Leither has any information on a small cargo ship called the Amelia.

I have some technical information but no word from anybody who actually saw the ship or any photo. Help would be appreciated.

Bob Sinclair, Queensland, Australia:  December 1, 2009

 

 Recollections

6.

Terry McGuire

Coventry, Warwickshire, England

Thank you to Terry McGuire who replied:

Cargo Ship:  'Amelia'

"I remember the Amelia sailing fortnightly to Orkney and Shetland.

She was reputedly 'Iron built', rather than steel.   She was an old vessel then, in the 1950s.  I remember her carrying cargoes of silver sand,  used in horticulture, and for the football pitches at Easter Road and  Tynecastle.

After service with  the North of Scotland Orkney and Shetland Shipping Co, I think she was sold to the Greeks.

As an apprentice at Robbs, the story I heard  was that she was claimed 'sunk' by the Germans, three times, during the war."

Terry McGuire, Coventry, Warwickshire, England.

 

 Recollections

7.

Michelle Thissen

Michelle Thissen Wrote:

Question

Sailing from Antwerp

"I am looking for the name of a boat sailing from Antwerp to Leith at Easter 1963, probably from the Gibson Line.

Can you help me?"

Michelle Thissen, St Andrews, Fife, Scotland:  January 13, 2012

Recollections

8.

John Stevenson

Trinity, Edinburgh

John Stevenson, Edinburgh, replied:

Answer

1.

Sailing from Antwerp

"In the early 1960;s regular sailings were operated on a 'cargo liner' basis by George Gibson & Co.

The vessels involved were:

YARROW     Grangemouth / Antwerp

ETTRICK      Leith / Antwerp

They carried 12 passengersThe summer fare wasf 10 single and the winter fare was 6 single!

While other  company vessels supplemented the trade, none of them carried passengers.  Assuming that Michelle's question refers to someone travelling as a passenger, I would say almost certainly that the vessel she is looking for is ETTRICK."

If her interest is not in a passenger I  would need to consult 'Lloyds List' newspaper of the time for details of sailings."

John Stevenson, Trinity, Edinburgh:  January 14, 2012

Recollections

9.

Connie Newman

Tonbridge, Kent

John Stevenson wrote again with a further message for Michelle Thissen.

John wrote:

Answer

2.

Sailing from Antwerp

"John Stephenson's reply correctly suggests the 'ETTRICK as a likely vessel, sailing with passengers from Antwerp to Leith in 1963, but said that no other vessel carried passengers.

In fact, the DRYBURGH carried to Rotterdam and the 'HERIOT to Amsterdam. I did the Amsterdam one myself! I worked for the company at the offices in Commercial Street for several years (although I had left to be married by 1960)."

Brochure Photos

"I still have two brochures advertising the sailings in which I feature as one of the 'models'!!   The photos for the brochure were taken on board the ETTRICK as it was the company's newest ship.

Photos were taken in the cabin and in the dining salon.  There were photos of drinks on deck and a shot of a car being loaded on board."

Fares

"John is correct in his list of fares for 1963 as 10 single in summer:  6 single in winter.

In 1967, when they re-issued the same brochure, the fares had risen to 12 single in summer:  8 single in winter."

Connie Newman, Tonbridge, Kent:  Messages posted in Edinphoto guestbook:  January 15, 2012

Recollections

10.

John Stevenson

Trinity, Edinburgh

John Stevenson wrote again with a further message for Michelle Thissen.

In fact I received this message from John before I had chance to add Connie Newman's message above to the web site.  Both messages mention the DRYBURGH as well as the ETTRICK.

John wrote:

Answer

3.

Sailing from Antwerp

Ships

"Michelle:

I did a bit more checking yesterday in the local newspapers for 'ship arrivals at Leith.

These are from 'The Scotsman':

-  Thursday 18 April, 1963:  ETTRICK arrived Leith from Antwerp

-  Saturday 20 April, 1963:   DRYBURGH arrived Leith from Antwerp and Zeebrugge

both vessels belonging to Gibson & Co.

It's time to get your memory working, and try to remember what day you got back to Edinburgh. !!!"

John Stevenson, Trinity, Edinburgh:  January 17, 2012

Recollections

11.

John Stevenson

Trinity, Edinburgh

John Stevenson added:

Answer

4.

Sailing from Antwerp

Journey Times

"Michelle:

"The steaming distance from Antwerp to Leith is approx 430 miles which at the service speed of Ettrick (12/13knots) equates to near enough 36 hours .

When I was with Gibson & Co we, normally, sailed at  17.00 hrs (say Friday) arriving Leith at about 08.00hrs on Sunday.

Again, it depended on weather and the state of the tide on arrival at Leith . Miss the tide and you could be at anchor for six to eight hours !!!!

I would say that under normal circumstances you would have two nights on board ship."

John Stevenson, Trinity, Edinburgh:  January 18, 2012

Recollections

12.

Gerry McFarlane

Swindon, Wiltshire, England

Thank you to Gerry for writing this message to Connie Newman, after reading her comments in Recollections 9 above.

Gerry wrote:

MV Ettrick of Leith

Connie:

Photos

"I still have two brochures advertising the sailings in which I feature as one of the 'models'!   The photos for the brochure were taken on board the ETTRICK as it was the company's newest ship.

Photos were taken in the cabin and in the dining salon. There were photos of drinks on deck and a shot of a car being loaded on board.

If you could send/email me a copy of the brochure you still have, I'd love to see it."

Tom McFarlane

Engineer

"My father, Tam McFarlane, was an engineer on board MV Ettrick around the early 1960's.  I was only 7 in 1960 but remember the name of this ship, and being allowed to visit the Engine Room where he worked.  I've tried to Google a photo of the vessel but with no luck.

I'm trying to piece together some history of my father from MY memories - the Ettrick was his last ship before going onshore to work for Devlins in Granton."

Sailing to South Shields

"I also remember a smaller cargo vessel that went to South Shields from Leith in the late-1950s.  I think its name was 'Something Rose'.

My mum skived me off school to go on that trip.  Then when I got back to school the teacher asked me how my 'dads burns were', and of course, I didn't know what she was talking about!"

Gerry McFarlane, Swindon, Wiltshire, England:  December 29, 2013

 

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Photographs and Other Images  -  These include portraits of photographers  -  photographic outings -  Princes Street views  -  Newhaven Fishwives  -  etc.  Early Photography in Edinburgh  -  Talbot, Brewster, Hill & Adamson, Early Professional Photographers in Princes Street, etc.  Professional Photographers in Edinburgh  -  1840 to 1940  -  Their names, dates of business and studio addresses.  The Photographic Society of Scotland  -  1856 to 1873  -  Lectures, Exhibitions, Outings, etc.  The History of Edinburgh Photographic Society  -  1861 to date  -  Lectures, Exhibitions, Outings, Poems, etc.  EPS Publications - EPS Handwritten Records  -  Photographic Journals  -  Trade Directories  -  Books  -  etc.  Thanks to all who have encouraged and supported me in creating the EdinPhoto web site  -  including descendants of photographers  -  researchers  -  providers of photographs and other material  Background notes on the research thal led up to the creation of this site  -   together with lists of new material added to the site since its launch.  Brief comments on how this site might be used  -  Just browsing?  -  Seeking specific information?  Please add your questions, suggestions or other comments to the Guest Book.  Links to other web sites  -  Photographic Societies  -  Photographic History  -  Family History  -  etc.  Click here to find the link to the Edinburgh Photogrpahic Society web site.

 

A selection of my photographs, many from Edinburgh throughout the year.   Also photos from Scotland, London, Iceland, Italy, Hong Kong and elsewhere    Many old maps of Edinburgh (Old Town, New Town, while City), Leith and Newhaven.  Includes several old transport maps and a comparison of old maps with recent aerial photos.   Old engravings, mailly of Edinburgh scenes.  Some from the 1820s, some from the 1890s,  some others - includes many hand-coloured examples from the 1820s.   News from Edinburgh today  -  Events, Collections, Buildings and Gardens, Transport   This site includes     1. Post card portraits taken in studios in Edinburgh:    2. Post card views either takeen/published by Ediburgh photographers or views of Edinburgh, or both.y Edinburgh    Views of Edinburgh, grouped into three sections:     1. Street views:    2. Buildings:    3. Around Edinburgh   Views of transport around Edinburgh  -  Horse drawn trams and buses, cable cars, electric trams, buses and a few railway photos.  Also several maps of Edinburgh's bus and tram routes.   Links to pages with Photos of Groups   Frequently Asked Questions

  Summary of the updates added to this site each month since the site was launched   Links to Dumbiedykes pages  Link to Granton pages  Link to Leith pages   Link to Newhaven pages   Links to Portobello pages   Link to My Recent Talks