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Recollections

    Valentine Postcard  -  Leith Docks: 1933 ©

Leith Docks

 

Please scroll down this page, or click on one of the links below:

1.

Hugh Hainey
Loanhead, Midlothian, Scotland

Leith Dockers  -  War Service

Furness Withy

Customs & Excise

2.

Jim Telfer-Smith
Loughborough, Leicestershire, England

Wooden Warship - TS Dolphin

Ships sailing from Leith

John Stevenson
Trinity, Edinburgh

Bill Elder
Scapa Flow, Orkney, Scotland

Frank Ferri
Newhaven, Edinburgh

Terry McGuire
Coventry, Warwickshire, England

3.

Margaret Adams
Warwick, Warwickshire, England

with replies from

Donald Jack
and
Eric Gold
East London
and
Walter Lyle Hume
Cowes, Isle of Wight

Liner - 1932

4.

John Ross
Peterborough, Cambridgeshire, England

Grandfather's Work

Peanuts

Father's Car

5.

Yvonne Jaggard (née Begas)
Australia

TS Dolphin

6.

Bob Sinclair
Queensland, Australia

SS Amelia

7.

Bob Wilson
Leeds, West Yorkshire

Swans

8.

John Stevenson
Trinity, Edinburgh

Bacon Boat from Denmark

9.

Steve Kirk
Bromsgrove, Hereford & Worcester, England

Old Photos

10.

John Carson

Lamp Post at the Dock Gates

 

Recollections

1.

Hugh Hainley

Loanhead, Midlothian, Scotland

Thank you to Hugh Hainey, who was brought  up at 2 Royston Mains Avenue in the 1940s,  for e-mailing me with the following comments.

Hugh wrote:

Leith Dockers  -  War Service

"Most of our dads were dockers at Leith Docks but in 1942 most of them were conscripted into the RE to form a Dock Squadron.

A lot were blown up in an German air attack on Barri in Italy they were off loading Ammo Ships.  There were also Nerve Gases but that has only come to light several years ago.

My dad was blown up and suffered the rest of his life with shrapnel in his spine. He never claimed a pension and continued to work as a docker until he retired he always said that he could not bring up a family on a war pension. (Changed Days.)"

Hugh Hainey, Loanhead, Midlothian, Scotland:  March 2005

Thank you to Brian Fox, now living in Wells, Somerset, England,  who wrote:

Furness Withy

"My Father worked in Leith Docks during the war and retired in 1960. He worked for Furness Withy and was in charge of the electric trucks used to unload/load ships.

The docks were a restricted area during  the war, but he used to take me with him for a treat on occasions to see his repair workshop.  It was quite an adventure for me."

Customs & Excise

"I also worked in the docks in Customs & Excise for about 5 years.  They were very busy in those days but as far as I can see most commerce has disappeared now."

Brian Fox, Wells, Somerset, England:   May 8, 2006

 

Recollections

2.

Jim Telfer-Smith

Loughborough, Leicestershire, England

Question

Jim Telfer-Smith, a MN Engineer from 1942 until 1956,  writes:

Training Ship

"What was the name of the old wooden war ship that acted as a training ship?  Are there any photographs of her?

The last time I saw her was about the 1950's.  All I can remember of her was her gun ports and the deck covered with a wooden cover,

Your help would be appreciated."

Jim Telfer-Smith, Loughborough, Leicestershire:  August 7, 2006

Answer 1

Thank you to John Stevenson, Trinity, Edinburgh who replied, giving the name of the ship as TS Dolphin.  Incidentally, the Merchant Navy Officers' web site also has an impressive photo of T.S. Dolphin, taken at night in Leith Docks.

John wrote:

T.S. Dolphin

"The ship is T.S. Dolphin.

When attending Leith Nautical College, in the 1950s and 1960s,  I used to have my lunch on board - her being the training vessel for cooks , stewards etc as well as deck boys.

At that time she was berthed in the East Old Dock

This page from the Merchant Navy Officers' web site gives more details of T.S. Dolphin:

-  from its launch in Middlesbrough in 1882

- until it was towed from Leith Docks to be broken up at Bo'ness 95 years later.

John D Stevenson, Trinity, Edinburgh:  August 9, 2006

Answer 2

Thank you to Bill Elder, now working at Flotta Oil Terminal, Scapa, Orkney, Scotland, for his recollections below:

'Dolphin Boys'

"I had been a 'Dolphin Boy' for the 14 week training period from 7th Jan 1963.  I had been brought up by my Aunt (my mother and Father had died when I was very young) and this training was available to a certain number of orphan boys at each intake.

Arrival from Wick

"I remember arriving at the Gates of the then West Dock about 10.30 at night in the middle of a Blizzard!  I had travelled all the way down from Wick having left at 6 am that morning. The Dock policeman felt sorry for me and gave me a cup of cocoa before sending me aboard the training ship."

Leith

"I spent some great times in the Leith area. My first girlfriend was from the Kirkgate (small world, her mother was from Wick).  We used to do our courting in a little cinema along the road from the DK school."

Merchant Navy Career

"Like it says in the story about the Dolphin I was one of the thousands of boys who made a career in the Merchant Navy, sailing first with Salvesen's of Leith, also Ben Line and Gibson Currie Line, I also  sailed  with many other British Company's but the Leith Jobs were best!"

North Sea Oil

"As the story went on many of us boys found jobs in the ever growing exploration of the North sea. The experience I gained there has led me to a Job at the Talisman Oil terminal on Flotta on the Orkney Islands; not far from my roots but my wife and I chose to stay in Alness, the Best Blooming Town in Britain once again, having just won the Champion of Champions this year."

King of Norway

"During my spell on board the T.S.Dolphin I remember we had a visit from the then King of Norway.  My aunt said she had received a copy of the Edinburgh Evening News, showing a photo of the King with  Captain Tait of the Dolphin and some of the Boys, I was one of the Boys in the group but she never kept the cutting for me to see.

Is there any way with your obviously wide experience that you could direct me to find  copies of the photos from that time?"

Bill Elder, Flotta Oil Terminal, Scapa, Orkney, Scotland:  October 17, 2006

Bill:  I suggest that the Edinburgh Room at Edinburgh Central Library might be a good place to start.  They have books of Press Cuttings with articles and pictures. These may well include Royal Visits to Edinburgh and Leith. 

Try e-mailing them, to see if they can help.  I'll send you a note of their e-mail address.  -  Peter Stubbs:  October 22, 2006

Answer 3

Thank you to Frank Ferri, Newhaven, Edinburgh, who wrote:

Sailings  -  Leith to Orkney & Shetland

"I don't know about sailing to Denmark, but the North of Scotland Steam Navigation Co used to go to the Shetlands and Orkneys.  All their boats carried a few passengers but the one built like a small liner was the St Ninian, then the St Magnus and Olaf.

I sailed on the St Clements to Aberdeen and Kirkwall.

Currie line had a couple of Ships going to Denmark, the Gothland and Horsa"

Bill Elder, Flotta Oil Terminal, Scapa, Orkney, Scotland:  October 17, 2006

 

Recollections

3.

Margaret Adams

Warwick, Warwickshire, England

Thank you to Margaret Adams who wrote: 

Liner - 1932

"My dad used to take me walking in Leith docks, and to the sands at the Martello Tower when I was about 7 years old.

He took me to meet my mother when she came off one of the liners in Leith Docks in 1932. The ship sailed to the Orkneys and Denmark but I don't remember its name.

Margaret Adams: June 20, 2007

Question

Do you know the names of ships that sailed from Leith to the Orkneys and Denmark in 1932?  If so, please e-mail me and I'll pass on your message to Margaret.

Thank you.  - Peter Stubbs,  June 26, 2007

Answer 1

Thank you to Donald Jack who replied:

Orkney

"The ships sailing to Orkney would be those of the North of Scotland and Orkney and Shetland Steam Navigation Co. Ltd.  They were:

St. Clair

-  St. Magnus

St. Rognvald

-  St. Sunniv

The St. Sunniva was very distinctive, having a bowsprit.

Baltic

They sailed from the Albert Dock.  The ships sailing to the Baltic would be those of the Currie Line.  They were:

-  the Courland.

-  the Gothland

-  the Hengist

-  the Horsa

They sailed from the Victoria Dock.  The Captain of the Horsa was David Sinclair (now deceased) who lived at 4 Dudley Terrace

Donald Jack,  October 13 + 14, 2007

Answer 2

Thank you to Eric Gold, East London who wrote:

Orkney

"In the 1960s and on to the late 1970s there were two ships that  sailed from the Albert and Imperial Dock in Leith to Aberdeen then on to Orkney and Shetland, then back again on the same route to Leith.  They were

-  St. Clair

-  St. Ninian

Eric Gold, East London:  October 14, 2007

Answer 3

Thank you to Terry McGuire, Coventry Warwickshire, who wrote:

Sailings  -  Leith to Orkney & Shetland

"Regarding the entries on the North Of Scotland , Orkney and Shetland boats sailing from Leith, I think the oldest was the 'Amelia'.

She was claimed 'sunk' by the Germans three times during the war, but survived  undamaged.  I believe she was 'iron built', as opposed to steel.

I remember her at the West Pier berth in Leith, with cargoes of  silver sand, much used on football pitches at Easter Road and Tynecastle.  I think she was sold on to Greek owners."

Terry McGuire:  Coventry, Warwickshire, England:  October 27, 2007

Answer 4

Thank you to Walter Lyle Hume, Cowes, Isle of Wight, for providing more details about SS Amelia, mentioned in Answer 3 above.

Walter wrote:

SS Amelia

"I  must declare a vested interest here.   'Amelia' was indeed a stalwart regular trader, owned by Cooper & Co. of Kirkwall Captain George Moody, a friend of our family, who lived inn Dudley Avenue, ran this ship for many years.

SS Amelia, Official Number 104069, was 341 gross tons,  built in Ayr in 1894.  Her permanent berth in Leith was at the Shore, just opposite Tower Street.  She only carried general goods, Leith / Orkney / Shetland / Aberdeen / Leith. and after sixty-one honourable years of service was scrapped at Charlestown in May 1955, having been sold for £3550."

Walter Lyle Hume, Cowes, Isle of Wight, England:  October 27, 2007

 

Recollections

4.

John Ross

Peterborough, Cambridgeshire, England

Thank you to John Ross who wrote: 

Grandfather's Work

"My Grandfather was a night & day watchman in Leith Docks.  I can remember him taking me to work when I was on holiday from school. His job was with  Landing Craft I can' t remember the firm he worked for.

He also was watchman for a firm called Ruberoid in Granton."

Peanuts

"I also remember, once in Leith docks going up to a big shed which was full of peanuts,  shaking the doors and getting some nuts come out through a little gap at bottom.

I thick there was a thing called the ground nut scheme."

Father's Car

©

"Here is a picture of my Father with car.  This is the car that I passed my test in, in 1953"

John Ross, Peterborough, Cambridgeshire, England:  July 26, 2007

 

Recollections

5.

Yvonne Jaggard (née Begas)

Australia

Thank you to Yvonne Jaggard (née Begas) who wrote about working for Salvesens, before emigrating to Australia in 1963.

Yvonne wrote: 

Dolphin

"I worked at Salvesens from 1961 to 1963.  Every Thursday, with our lunch voucher from work, I used to have lunch on board the Dolphin.

As the Office Juniors and I were all teenagers, it was great fun to go there and try to make the waiting staff laugh.

I have fond memories of that time."

Yvonne Jaggard (née Begas), Australia:  January 12, 2008

 

Recollections

6.

Bob Sinclair

Queensland, Australia

Thank you to Bob Sinclair for telling me more about SS Amelia, mentioned previously in Answers 3 and 4 to Recollections 3 above.

Bob wrote:

SS Amelia

"My wife Margaret lived at Dock Place, Leith  From her window could see the Amelia at the wharf near the Sailors' Home

She said it was fascinating to watch the Amelia being loaded at night, with lights on round about the ship and wee men carting goods from the warehouse on the quay for it to be loaded on board by means of the Amelia's cranes (the loading arms attached to the Amelia's decks)."

Bob Sinclair, Queensland, Australia:  January 5, 2010

 

Recollections

7.

Bob Wilson

Leeds, West Yorkshire

Thank you to Bob Wilson who wrote:

Swans

"Isn't it funny the memories that stick with us all our lives?

In the 1940s, my grandmother lived at 5 Stanley Place, off London Road, Edinburgh.  Whenever we, her Sassenach grandchildren, visited her from Middlesbrough, the steel town in the North Riding of Yorkshire, we hoped that she'd take us to Leith docks in order to feed the swans that so gracefully gathered there.

I had never seen a swan before.  Just feeding them with bits of bread was quite an experience for a small child.  Somehow, I gained the impression that swans were Scots birds, native to Scotland, and of course not found elsewhere in the British Isles.

Leith docks always seemed to me as the best sort of place to live if I was a swan of good taste."

Bob Wilson, Leeds, West Yorkshire:  July 19, 2010

 

Recollections

8.

John Stevenson

Trinity, Edinburgh

I was asked where the bacon boat from Denmark used to dock at Leith in 1948.   I passed on this question to John Stevenson.

John replied:

Bacon Boat from Denmark

"The Danish 'Bacon Boats' (they also carried butter), at that time, berthed on the south side of the Albert Dock (approx where the new casino is now).

The service was maintained by the 'United Steamship Co' of Copenhagen and was operated on a weekly basis.

The 'North British Cold Store' stored most of the produce as it was close by,  just outside the Dock Gates at Tower Street.

As an apprentice in Robb's at that time, I can remember these ships.  They were always spotlessly clean and in first class order."

John Stevenson, Trinity, Edinburgh:  July 20, 2010

Recollections

9.

Steve Kirk

Bromsgrove, Hereford & Worcester, England

Thank you to Steve Kirk who wrote, after recognising the scene in one of the old photos of Leith Docks on the EdinPhoto web site:

Changes

"I certainly know the scene in the photo.  I served my apprenticeship at Menzies from 1960 to 1964, then went into the merchant navy and lived in South Africa for 30 years

I was in Leith again last year, for the first time in over 40 years.  There was nothing there that I remembered."

Steve Kirk, Bromsgrove, Hereford & Worcester, England:  January 10, 2011

Recollections

10.

John Carson

Edinburgh

Thank you to John Carson who wrote:

Lamp Posts at the Dock Gates

    Lamp Post in Tower Place at the entrance to Leith Docks ©

"The wrought ironwork around this lamp in Tower Place, Leith, was made by my father, John Carson,  who was a maintenance blacksmith with Leith Dock Commission.

These lamps were at all dock entrance gates around 1955.  I'd like to know if Leith Port Authority has any details regarding why there is only one remaining."

John Carson, Edinburgh:  February 15, 2013

 

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Photographs and Other Images  -  These include portraits of photographers  -  photographic outings -  Princes Street views  -  Newhaven Fishwives  -  etc.  Early Photography in Edinburgh  -  Talbot, Brewster, Hill & Adamson, Early Professional Photographers in Princes Street, etc.  Professional Photographers in Edinburgh  -  1840 to 1940  -  Their names, dates of business and studio addresses.  The Photographic Society of Scotland  -  1856 to 1873  -  Lectures, Exhibitions, Outings, etc.  The History of Edinburgh Photographic Society  -  1861 to date  -  Lectures, Exhibitions, Outings, Poems, etc.  EPS Publications - EPS Handwritten Records  -  Photographic Journals  -  Trade Directories  -  Books  -  etc.  Thanks to all who have encouraged and supported me in creating the EdinPhoto web site  -  including descendants of photographers  -  researchers  -  providers of photographs and other material  Background notes on the research thal led up to the creation of this site  -   together with lists of new material added to the site since its launch.  Brief comments on how this site might be used  -  Just browsing?  -  Seeking specific information?  Please add your questions, suggestions or other comments to the Guest Book.  Links to other web sites  -  Photographic Societies  -  Photographic History  -  Family History  -  etc.  Click here to find the link to the Edinburgh Photogrpahic Society web site.

 

A selection of my photographs, many from Edinburgh throughout the year.   Also photos from Scotland, London, Iceland, Italy, Hong Kong and elsewhere    Many old maps of Edinburgh (Old Town, New Town, while City), Leith and Newhaven.  Includes several old transport maps and a comparison of old maps with recent aerial photos.   Old engravings, mailly of Edinburgh scenes.  Some from the 1820s, some from the 1890s,  some others - includes many hand-coloured examples from the 1820s.   News from Edinburgh today  -  Events, Collections, Buildings and Gardens, Transport   This site includes     1. Post card portraits taken in studios in Edinburgh:    2. Post card views either takeen/published by Ediburgh photographers or views of Edinburgh, or both.y Edinburgh    Views of Edinburgh, grouped into three sections:     1. Street views:    2. Buildings:    3. Around Edinburgh   Views of transport around Edinburgh  -  Horse drawn trams and buses, cable cars, electric trams, buses and a few railway photos.  Also several maps of Edinburgh's bus and tram routes.   Links to pages with Photos of Groups   Frequently Asked Questions

  Summary of the updates added to this site each month since the site was launched   Links to Dumbiedykes pages  Link to Granton pages  Link to Leith pages   Link to Newhaven pages   Links to Portobello pages   Link to My Recent Talks