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Recollections Onion Johnny known as 'Ingen Johnny' |
Edinburgh Recollections |
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1. |
June Wood
(née
Robertson) |
- Does anybody remember? |
2. |
Margaret Williamson
(née Hay) |
- Home Street |
3. |
Trisha McDonald |
- Joppa |
4. |
Yvonne Cain |
- Boswall |
5. |
Bryan Gourlay |
- Around Edinburgh |
6. |
Lynda Maine |
- Princes Street |
7. |
Allan Dodds |
- Howard Street |
8. |
Simon Capaldi |
- Craigleith |
9. |
Dave Ferguson |
- Leith |
10. |
Dave Ferguson |
- Weekly News - A once-common sight ... |
11. |
GM Rigg |
- Local Lads? - Onions and Garlic |
Recollections 1. June Wood (née Robertson) Central Coast, California, USA |
Thank you to Margaret Anderson for posting a message in the EdinPhoto guestbook. Margaret wrote |
Does anyone remember 'Ingen Johnny' "I bet I am the only person who remembers this - a guy on a bike, loaded down with onions, selling to all the woman in Edinburgh. We called him Ingen Johnny. I always thought he was from Spain. Am I right? Am I the only one who remembers him?"
June Wood (née Robertson), Central
Coast, California, USA |
Recollections 2. Margaret Williamson (née Hay) Moline, Illinois, USA |
Thank you to Margaret Williamson (née Hay) who replied: |
Home Street "Hello June: I remember the man and his ingins across the bar o his bike. I never got any frae him, but saw him a few times comin' up Home Street"
Margaret Williamson (née Hay), Moline, Illinois, USA |
Recollections 3. Trisha McDonald Livingston, West Lothian, Scotland |
Thank you to Trisha McDonald who replied |
Joppa "I was born in Joppa, Portobello. I lived there until I was ten years old. I remember Ingin Johnny riding about on his bike."
Trisha McDonald, Livingston, West
Lothian, Scotland |
Recollections 4. Yvonne Cain Australia |
Thank you to Trisha McDonald who replied |
Boswall "I can remember Ingin Johnny around Boswall Terrace. He must have been about 55 years old." Yvonne Cain, Australia: Message posted in EdinPhoto guestbook,: March 25, 2012 |
Recollections 5. Bryan Gourlay Biggar, Lanarkshire, Scotland |
Thank you to Bryan Gourlay who replied |
Around Edinburgh "You've had a number of mentions of Ingin Johnnies on the EdinPhoto web site, in the past. ** "I seem to remember they turned up about October every year. My mother used to wait for them coming and bought a few long string of onions which she hung in the garden hut for use over a period of months. They were very popular visitors and went all over the city and further afield pushing their large, black bikes loaded up with ingins. People in Biggar tell me they made the 30 mile journey out there." |
** Yes: 'Ingin Johnnies' have already been mentioned in the Bingham, Granton and Portobello recollections pages of the Edinphoto web site. |
From Brittany "As I understand it, the men came from Brittany. They were always very polite and well turned out in a blue and white striped woollen shirt with their traditional French blue beret atop their head. When you answered their knock at the door you would be met with a beaming smile and chap holding some strings of onions with another couple round his neck. It was said they shipped their onions in bulk and rented a big shed in Leith Docks to store them and string them ready to drape over their sturdy bikes. I think they were still around in the 1960s, but they were probably put out of business by the supermarkets. I'm sure some of your followers must have a photo or two of these very welcome visitors." |
Bryan Gourlay, Biggar, Lanarkshire, Scotland: March 25, 2012 |
Recollections 6. Lynda Maine Colinton Mains, Edinburgh |
Thank you to Lynda Maine for posting this message in the EdinPhoto guestbook: |
Princes Street "I can remember the Onion Johnnies. I vaguely remember them selling the onions in Princes Street. and he also came around Colinton Mains"
Lynda Maine, Colinton Mains, Edinburgh |
Recollections 7. Allan Dodds Nottingham, Nottinghamshire, England |
Allan Dodds wrote: |
Princes Street "Ingin Johnny used to cycle along Howard Street in the 1950s." Allan Dodds, Nottingham, Nottinghamshire, England: March 30, 2012 |
Recollections 8. Simon Capaldi Sheriffhall, Midlothian, Scotland |
Simon Capaldi wrote: |
Craigleith "Onion Jonnies were still delivering to my grandmother's house in Craigleith in the mid-1970s. The same man would visit every year and would say how much he liked visiting as he always had a small coffee with home made shortbread that she would provide. They were brilliant onions." Simon Capaldi, Sheriffhall, March 31, 2012 |
Recollections 9. Dave Ferguson Blairgowrie, Perth & Kinross, Scotland |
Dave Ferguson wrote: |
Leith "When I was a boy, we went to Leith a lot. It was so full of life. The Ingin Johnnies, as we called them, stored thier onions in a warehouse in Baltic Street, Leith, two doors along from the old Corn Exchange pub. My mother always maintained that they were Spanish and came over here to receive the cargo when it arrived at Leith docks. They stored the onions in Baltic Street then sold them all over Edinburgh. Anyone who lived in the old tenements in Baltic St. may remember them. I can remember the Ingin Johnniesm in the Granton area in the late-1940s." Dave Ferguson, Blairgowrie, Perth & Kinross, Scotland: April 8, 2012 |
Recollections 10. Dave Ferguson Blairgowrie, Perth & Kinross, Scotland |
Thank you to Dave Ferguson who wrote again following up his comments in Recollections 9 above. Dave wrote: |
Weekly News "I saw a clip in the 'Weekly News' regarding Onion Johnnies. It seems my mum got it wrong about their country of origin. Still, she was close." Dave Ferguson, Blairgowrie, Perth & Kinross, Scotland: May 2, 2012 |
The article that Dave refers to reported: |
A once-common sight, pedalling their wares! "Were there really French onion sellers wearing striped shirts cycling around Britain, or was it only in the cartoons and comedy films? Yes, and they're still coming over. These days, however, they sell more conventionally, from vans. Weekly News: date not known |
This article went on to report: - Onion Johnnies were most common in Britain before World War II, when there were 1,000 French onion sellers here, selling 10,000 tons of onions each year. - They came from Brittany and were most common around UK ports that had sailing contacts with France. Some wore striped shirts; all wore the beret, a fashion in Brittany. Peter Stubbs, Edinburgh: May 2, 2012 |
Recollections 11. GM Rigg New Zealand |
Thank you to GM Rigg for posting this message in the EdinPhoto guestbook: |
Local Lads? "I was led to beleive that the Onion Johnnies (or Ingin Johnnies in the colloquial) were local lads who all wore a 'uniform' of sorts, ie black trousers, striped top, hankie scarf around their necks and berets on their heads. It was supposed to be some sort of entrepreneurial way of selling onions that started after WW2, in the days before 'branding' and it was a bit of fun too. a sort of job creation scheme, and the onions looked good hanging in the kitchen with the onion tops woven into the 'rope'." Onions and Garlic "We also used to see garlic sold this way in Valvona & Crolla, but garlic was not something commonly used in the 1950s." GM Rigg, New Zealand: message posted in EdinPhoto guest book, May 1, 2012 |
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