Recollections
Whitson
Streets to the north
of Saughton Park and to the west of Gorgie |
Recollections
1.
Elizabeth Livingston
North Vancouver, British
Columbia, Canada |
Thank you to Elizabeth Livingston for sending her
recollections of the time when she lived
in Whitson Terrace and attended Ballgreen School, round the corner.
Elizabeth wrote:
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Neighbours
"The
people
I remember from Whitson
Terrace and 98 Whitson Road were the:
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Jordans
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Fogartys
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McLoughlins
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Livingastons
- McMillands
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Farmers
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Ulks
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Marinos
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Stocks
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Rileys
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Joyces
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Haggertys
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Grays
- Walkers
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Grandisons
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Burns
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and many more." |
Housing, Shops and
Schools
"Our suburban
area, at the end of World War II, was a fairly new, containing many
young families who had moved in from overcrowded areas of the City.
The accommodation was mainly
three-storied tenements each with two or
three bedroom apartments. The local shops, chemist, grocers,
newsagent/post office and drysalters were vehicles for information
exchange among the residents.
Children attended one of the two local
schools, Catholic or Protestant.
There was a local library and a large park nearby." |
Return from the Forces
"Most of the
households had men who were still serving in the forces and 'single
mothers' headed many of the families for most of the year.
We were all quite familiar with the
'Welcome Home' banners to honor the returning servicemen and women,
especially those who had been prisoners of war." |
Street Parties
"The women organized street parties.
In our street,
Mrs. M was a familiar figure who would often come round and chap on
the doors to gain monetary and human support for the street party.
She also came around when someone had
died to collect for a wreath for the deceased person and support for
the family.
The sheer luxury of ice cream, jelly and
cake were looked forward to for days before the
street party. Women would be baking cakes, sponges,
shortbread and their special recipe for the party." |
Snacks
"Our usual
snack consisted of raw carrots, liquorice root, dry oatmeal, cocoa
and sugar, when it was available,
and rhubarb.
The latter usually came from someone’s
garden patch. I believe that my good teeth are due to the scarcity
of rationed sweeties and the custom of snacking on raw carrots,
which were scraped against the wall." |
School Dinners
"School
dinners were available during the holidays. The menu did not change
much. It was usually, soup, cake custard, mince and macaroni, and
prunes and custard.
There were often ‘seconds'
which many of the boys took advantage of. It
was a good hot dinner for sixpence or a shilling." |
'Latch-key' Kids
"The school
children in the area were mainly 'latch-key'
kids. It was a common sight to see a
child with a key on a string around his/her neck.
Most of the mothers had some kind of job
- dinner lady, school
cleaner, cook or maid in someone’s house. These
menial tasks brought extra money into the households to supplement
service pensions. Someone’s mum was always around to act as an
unofficial substitute mother. |
Play
"Across from
the bus stop there was a 'plantation' where we used to play hide and
seek. Down from the School there was the
Pansy Walk which led into Roseburn. At the top of Balgreen
Road, there were swings, Rose Gardens and
the 'haunted house'."
"During the
school summer holidays, we had our
favorite haunts.
- We
organized picnics in the park
- We, fished for minnows in the
burn (Water of Leith) down by the Rose Gardens. We used
the precious jam jars as a bowl for the minnows, or for butterflies
or catching bees down the Pansy Walk.
- We paddled in the burn using the
natural stepping-stones to cross to the other side. It
was wonderful and refreshing on a hot sunny day. The water was
cooling, clear and pleasant to walk in. It also washed the dirt off
our feet.
- The 'haunted house' of Saughton
Park kept us in a spirit of imagination. The Lady in White was one
of the myths. Everyone claimed to have seen her! I'm still in
the dark about the old mansion.
- The mixed game of “kick the can”
in the street gave the girls the opportunity to “take on the boys”.
The thrill of getting past the can-fetcher to kick the can and run
out of sight was a highlight. The exercise was good and it was a
fine way to use up energy in the late summer nights. The worst thing
that could happen was someone’s mother shouting out the window that
it was bedtime. A perpetual spoilsport. |
Trips to Portobello and
Cramond
"On special
occasions, a group of us would meet with
our picnic lunches which consisted of lemonade, bread, jam or paste
sandwiches. We rode the bus to
Portobello, nicknamed 'Portie',
or Cramond.
It was fun to be on the beaches and try
to ‘get a tan' Some adults would
leave us their deckchairs to 'finish out' the paid time.
That was a luxury.
Most of us had collected jam jars or
farthings to scrape up enough money for the bus fare to our
destination." |
Indoor Play
"The rainy
days posed more of a challenge to our creativity. It
was a disadvantage to us to be 'cooped up'
in the house or in the stairwell.
Our tenement had a large windowsill on
both landings. We would sit on this and
exchange scraps or film stars' portraits.
We also had our repertoire of inside
games and activities such as jumping down a flight of stairs,
or “dreeping” from the ledge of the landing.
We also used
the back entrance to practice for the backgreen concerts.
The chorus of:
'We are the
Whitson girls,
We have come to show ourselves,
We can dance and we can sing,
We can do the highland fling,
We are the Whitson girls'
was the opening of many a concert.
Two
of our group organized such a concert with the benefits going
towards the Sick Children's Hospital. They
even got a write-up in the evening
tabloid.
The stumbling blocks to our indoor play
were the tenants who yelled at us to 'Keep quiet'.
Some of the men were on night shift
and we were disturbing their sleep - a
genuine complaint." |
Air Raid Shelters
"The shelters were still in the back
greens during this era. They were good for playing hides and seek
and postman’s knock they also served as pinnacles from which to run
down.
If somebody’s washing was hanging out,
we were often cautioned not run through the clothes. There seemed to
be a competition for the whitest wash!" |
Milkman
"Mick the
milkman drove the horse and cart from the Store
(St Cuthbert's) to deliver milk and rolls around the
district. Many a child or adult
brought a treat for the horse, usually a
carrot or sugar cubes."
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Gas Man
"The day the gas man was in the area
there was great
excitement. We waited anxiously as
he counted out the pennies and shillings from the meter, hoping for
a good rebate.
We all received a few extra pennies for
treats after he had gone. When our funds were low,
we looked for farthings and jam jars to scrape up enough money
to our local cinemas, the Roxy or the Tiv."
When we were at a loose end due to lack
of funds, the potential for mischief was increased. We had standard
pranks, which are not new to the younger generation, of tying two
door handles together with string and ringing the door
bells. We would watch with
glee as the two neighbors were caught in the lark. |
Chores
"Chores were still part of the routine
during the summer time. We just had longer time to do them. The
messages from St. Cuthbert’s (to get the ‘divi')
took up most of the Saturday mornings.
The butcher was the first stop. The
floor had sawdust strewn all over it. We would queue up for the best
ration of meat. When we came out of
the butchers we dragged a line of sawdust
into the grocers.
Here we had long benches to sit on as we
waited in the queue to be served. The ration books had to be
produced for certain items, cheese, jam.
eggs and fruit.
I still have a vivid
memory of the
'flying cash machines'
which sped from the counter to the accountant’s office, along a wire.
On certain days,
extra fruit would arrive in the store and we would be rationed
to a pound per book. The assistant marked
the back of the book in pencil. I wonder if he knew how many people
rubbed it out and came back in again. It
was not a very honorable thing to do, but
we did it! |
Making Money
"Some of our
group had Saturday jobs, going messages
for the neighbour.
The pay was something like a
half-crown a week.
Other
means of making money were to wash the
stairs and the landing in the building, collect jam jars and bottles,
or baby-sit. The latter usually meant
walking out with a child in a pram, or
being around while the mother was busy
with other tasks.
There was also the occasion of the ‘pour
out'. This happened when there was a
wedding. The best man would throw out a
handful of coins and the children scrambled for them." |
'The Good Old Days
"Children of
all generations are creative; it is part of normal development.
Memories are an integral part of life that is important to all
individuals.
People remember with nostalgia the happy
times and their roots as 'the good old
days'.” |
Elizabeth Livingston, North
Vancouver, British Columbia Canada: February 13, 2009 |
Recollections
2.
Elizabeth Livingston
North Vancouver, British
Columbia, Canada |
Thank you to Elizabeth Livingston who wrote again,
sending a photograph of some of the Whitson Street children.
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Elizabeth wrote:
Street Photo
"One day, around
summer 1948, a photographer came around and said he would come back to take
a photo.
I don't know the
photographer's name, but here is the photo. Most of these
kids in it are from around Whitson Terrace."
©
Please click on the thumbnail image above to
enlarge it and read more about it, including the names of many of
the children in the photo. |
Elizabeth Livingston, North
Vancouver, British Columbia Canada: February 13, 2009 |
Recollections
3.
Avril Russell
Whitson, Edinburgh |
Thank you to Avril Russell, Whitson,
Edinburgh, for posting a message in the EdinPhoto guestbook.
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Avril wrote:
Play at Whitson
"I was born in Edinburgh in 1946
and brought up in Whitson Road I remember
the Jordons and the Greys from Whitson Terrace.
I went to Balgreen
School with my twin brother, Alan,
and have an older brother Billy Jonny and sister Pat.
We
used to play down the Pansy
Walk. We played in the
Water of Leith with inner tube tyres.
What fun we had!"
Avril Russell, Whitson, Edinburgh:
Message posted in EdinPhoto guest book: February 28,
2009 |
Recollections
4.
Danny Callaghan
Falkirk, Stirlingshire,
Scotland |
Thank you to Danny Callaghan who replied to
Elizabeth Livingston's recollections in 1 above.
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Danny wrote:
Uncle Mike
"Elizabeth
Livingston makes mention of my Uncle Mike,
the Store milkman. Uncle Mike loved his horses and looked after
them with pride. He always had a big smile on his face.
The biggest problem he used
to have on his round was not offending his customers.
He seemed to have a regular rota of getting his breakfast
and mid-morning cuppa at various
houses on different days. If he was
offered a break which was not his regular rota,
he had to juggle things about as he would never offend."
Accident
"Uncle
Mike was injured in an accident with the milk float.
He tried to
grab hold of the reins as the
horse bolted for the Water of Leith, but fell under the cart. The
wheels ran right down one side of him.
He was in hospital a long
time, and
had regular visits from his round regulars. Although he recovered,
he was never able to return to his beloved milk round.
I remember the times I went to see him and him all strapped up etc
he still had a joke and smile.
He never gave up the horses
and went back to work in the stables looking after
them."
Heggarty Family
"Elizabeth Livingston from
Vancouver above mentions the Heggarty family. Margaret Heggarty
of that family married my cousin Jim Marshall mentioned in the
Abbeyhill recollections.
Margaret and Jim started a
family in Edinburgh then moved to Edmonton,
Canada. Elizabeth and Margaret were school friends going to St
Cuthberts School and Church and remain friends.
Elizabeth recently visited Margaret in Edmonton." |
Danny Callaghan, Falkirk,
Stirlingshire, Scotland: February 16 + 28 and March 2, 2010 |
Recollections
5.
Paul Danesi
Rhode Island, USA |
Thank you to Paul Danesi who wrote:
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Family
"My mom was born in Edinburgh and
lived at 93 Whitson Road. She married my dad right after the war
and moved to Rhode Island (US).
Some of the happiest times of my life
were my trips to Edinburgh to visit with my
Scottish family. I loved the city of Edinburgh and often
think about how wonderful it would be to visit again.
I took my family to see the remaining
family about 15 years ago and it was good to be able to identify all
the people and places that I had talked about."
Family
"Strangely
enough, Avril Russell (3 above)
lived above my grandmother. I remember Avril.
It was good seeing her name.
I will always remember the St. Cuthbert
cart coming down the street and pleading to get m favorite treat.
I also remember:
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the air raid shelter in
the backyard.
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the train tracks and the
golf course.
- hearing the roars of the lions
in Edinburgh Zoo, in the
summer."
Paul Danesi, Rhode Island, USA:
January 11, 2011 |
Recollections
6.
Danny Callaghan
Falkirk,
Stirlingshire, Scotland |
Thank you to Danny Callaghan who wrote: |
'Whitson Mick'
"Many have commented on the site
about the store milkman in the Whitson area, my Uncle Mick, a man
always with a smile.
©
We have trawled through the family
photos to find one of Mick with his beloved horse and we hit the
jackpot. Guessing from the dress of the child,
my uncles age would probably have
been taken late-50s.
Uncle Mick always wore his cap and great
coat to keep out the weather and his 'milk bottle' glasses and of
course the smile. No Gore-Tex protective work wear with
fluorescent stripes in those days!
Maybe you recognise yourself as the
lucky child or know exactly where
this picture was taken and when. We
would be interested to hear.
Danny Callaghan, Falkirk,
Stirlingshire, Scotland: January 20, 2011 |
Reply to Danny?
Please email me if you'd like to send a reply to Danny. Then
I'll pass your message to him. Thank you.
Peter Stubbs, Edinburgh:
January 27, 2011 |
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