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A selection of my photographs, many from Edinburgh throughout the year.   Also photos from Scotland, London, Iceland, Italy, Hong Kong and elsewhere     Many old maps of Edinburgh (Old Town, New Town, while City), Leith and Newhaven.  Includes several old transport maps and a comparison of old maps with recent aerial photos.   Old engravings, mailly of Edinburgh scenes.  Some from the 1820s, some from the 1890s,  some others - includes many hand-coloured examples from the 1820s.   News from Edinburgh today  -  Events, Collections, Buildings and Gardens, Transport   This site includes     1. Post card portraits taken in studios in Edinburgh:    2. Post card views either takeen/published by Ediburgh photographers or views of Edinburgh, or both.y Edinburgh    Views of Edinburgh, grouped into three sections:     1. Street views:    2. Buildings:    3. Around Edinburgh   Views of transport around Edinburgh  -  Horse drawn trams and buses, cable cars, electric trams, buses and a few railway photos.  Also several maps of Edinburgh's bus and tram routes.   Links to pages with Photos of Groups   Frequently Asked Questions

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Introduction

Granton

Question

Granton

Photos

Granton

Maps.

Granton

Memories

Lochinvar

 

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Waterfront

Maps

Waterfront

Photos

Newhaven

Fishwives

Newhaven

Streets

Transport

Panoramas

 

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Granton

Photo 1

Looking down on Granton Square and across to Granton Harbour   -   Late 1950s

Looking down on Granton Square and across to Granton Harbour  -  Photograph possibly taken around 1950

©  Reproduced with acknowledgement to the Robert Grieves Collection and to Argyll Publishing

 

I wrote:

"This photo includes a wealth of information for anybody interested in transport in Edinburgh in the mid-20th century.

Perhaps somebody will e-mail me with a few comments about the vehicles and ships in this picture."

 

Answer 1

Walter Lyle Hume, Isle of Wight replied, a few hours later:

The Closest Ship

   Looking down on Granton Square and across to Granton Harbour  -  possibly about 1950 ©

"The closest vessel in the picture is at Lighthouse Pier.  It is the twin screw motor ship 'Pharos VIII', built at Dundee by Caledon Shipyard.

Pharos was used:

as a relief tender for North Carr Lightship, Bell Rock, May Island, Bass Rock and Fidra Island

-   for servicing beacons and buoys on the East Coast.

-  for conducting the annual Inspection Commissioners cruise around all the Scottish coast.

Pharos was sold to Windjammer Cruises, Bahamas in 1988, renamed 'Amazing Grace', and is still in service."

The Distant Ship

      Looking down on Granton Square and across to Granton Harbour  -  possibly about 1950 ©

"The ship berthed at the steam crane on east side of middle pier would have ben loading coal, or possibly laid up.  The coal conveyor clearly visible at end of middle pier, with trawlers on the west side."

Drilling Rig

      Looking down on Granton Square and across to Granton Harbour  -  possibly about 1950 ©

"The drilling Rig was moored in Granton late 50's, having been used by the National Coal Board in the area between Portobello and Port Seton."

Taxi Office

   Looking down on Granton Square and across to Granton Harbour  -  possibly about 1950 ©

"The taxi office and kiosk can be seen on the left, in the middle of the picture"

Walter Lyle Hume, Cowes, Isle of Wight, England:  November 23, 2006.

 

Answer 2

Thank you to Patrick Hutton, Edinburgh,  who wrote:

The Railway

   Looking down on Granton Square and across to Granton Harbour  -  possibly about 1950 ©

"An excellent photo. The tramlines have gone, so I'd guess the photo was taken in the  late-'1950s.

I think the locomotive is a J35 or  J37.  These lasted right until the end of Scottish steam in 1966-67.

Or, if the engine has two windows in the cab side (which is not possible to tell from the web photo), it would be a J38 (more likely) or a J39 (almost indistinguishable).  I've seen a photo of one shedded at Seafield in the early '60s."

Patrick Hutton, Edinburgh:  November 27 + 30, 2006.

 

Answer 3

I was also pleased to receive this reply, from Grant King, Aberdeenshire:

The Two Boys

   Looking down on Granton Square and across to Granton Harbour  -  possibly about 1950 ©

"The two children coming up the steps are:

-  on the right, Paul Lorimer and

-  on the left, John Harkness.

This I got from a good source  -  Paul, who I grew up with."

Grant King, Aberdeenshire, now working in Rio de Janeiro, Brazil::  December 13, 2006.

 

Answer 4

Thank you to Hughie Grey, Australia,  who wrote:

Post Office and Police Box

   Looking down on Granton Square and across to Granton Harbour  -  possibly about 1950 ©

"On Granton Square  there used to be the Post Office,  good for  sweeties.  We used to buy cinnamon sticks to smoke.  Yikes!

I wonder if the old police box is still there.  I've  been in it  a couple of time   I even remember the  Policeman's  name.  It was 'Big Archie'  and he had a big  'back hand'.

Many of the old police boxes can still be found in the streets of Edinburgh, some now converted to coffee kiosks, but the one in Granton Square (above the road sign at the left-hand side of this picture) has been removed.  -  Peter Stubbs.

The Railway

   Looking down on Granton Square and across to Granton Harbour  -  possibly about 1950 ©

We  were always getting caught   in the  railway yards  jumping on the wagons.   I lived in  Granton Medway,  top stair.  We had  great fun as kids.

Oor Wullie couldnae dae better,  eh!"

Hughie Grey, Australia::  March 5, 2007

Photo 2

Victoria Day 1948  -  Where is it?

Where is it  -  Photograph of a railway line and a pram.  Possibly Newhaven or Granton

©  Reproduced by courtesy of Phil Wilson, Aberdeen

Question

Thank you to Phil Wilson, Aberdeen, Scotland. for sending me this photo in February 2006.

Phil wrote:

Where is it?

"I've been trying to work out where the railway line in the above photo could have been.

It must have been within walking distance of Victoria Park, Leith, as my mother and brother had been there on the same day (Victoria Day, 1948).

It's also unusual as people seem to be able to walk across the line.  Could it have been down at Granton, or near Newhaven?"

Phil Wilson, Aberdeen:  February 19, 2006

 

 

Reply

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Patrick Hutton, Edinburgh, wrote:

It's Probably Granton

   Where is it  -  Photograph of a railway line and a pram.  Possibly Newhaven or Granton ©

"It's probably Granton.  There are no rails at Newhaven harbour.  The wall at the back looks like that in the pic of the steam loco shunting wagons onto the pier ~ 1955.

1955

   Edinburgh Railways  -  Granton Square  -  1955 ©

Patrick Hutton, Edinburgh:  February 20, 2006

 

Reply

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Walter Lyle Hume, Cowes, Isle of Wight, wrote:

Granton Harbour - Middle Pier

   Where is it  -  Photograph of a railway line and a pram.  Possibly Newhaven or Granton ©

"They are always easy, if you know!  I recognised it instantly, situated on the left-hand side at the entrance to Granton Harbour Middle Pier.

During my immediate post-war years with the Northern Lighthouse Tenders, the Pharos was based at Middle Pier and the May was based at the shore end of the West Pier.

Sweet Shop

We used to call at the wooden shop immediately behind the baby's head, known as 'Koskie Joes', a sweet and newspaper shop, to pick up a paper.

Taxi Office

The smaller wooden hut to the right of the shop was a taxi office, operated by Peter King*, employed with Granton Harbour as a Crane Driver.

*Actually Hugh King:  See notes from Grant King (below).

 

Reply

4.

Kenneth Williamson

Silverknowes, Edinburgh

Kenneth wrote:

Granton - Middle Pier

   Where is it  -  Photograph of a railway line and a pram.  Possibly Newhaven or Granton ©

"This is Hardies Newsagents beside the Middle pier at Granton.  I think there may have been other businesses besides the newsagents but we were only concerned with the sweets, money permitting.

I was brought up in this area.  As a child we used to cross the railway line to buy sweeties, you would never get away with that now.

Granton Trains

Trains used to pass taking coal up to Granton Gas Works as well as going along to the West Pier to collect esparto grass and also the Ruberoid Company just below the Gas Works.

Shop

Once the wooden building was demolished the shop was transferred to a corner of Granton Square besides HMS Claverhouse (formerly The Granton Hotel).  The shop is now a takeaway called 'Jaws'.

Kenneth G Williamson, Silverknowes, Edinburgh:  April 19, 2006

Kenneth added:

Brotchie's Coal Merchants

"I used to work as a coalman when I was about fifteen for Brotchie's coal merchants where the houses are being built at the entrance to Middle Pier from Granton Square.

Kenneth G Williamson, Silverknowes, Edinburgh:  April 21, 2006

 

Reply

5.

Grant King

Aberdeenshire, Scotland

Grant wrote:

Granton - Middle Pier

   Where is it  -  Photograph of a railway line and a pram.  Possibly Newhaven or Granton ©

"It's a bit late in the day as picture has been well identified.  Just a couple of points for Walter Lyle Hume. 

If my memory serves me right, the taxi office was run by Hugh King.  Peter King was actually West Pier Manager / Foreman."

Grant King, Aberdeenshire, now working in Trinidad:  October 23, 2006

Thank you to Grant King, for also sending me information about the dredger, Rockchime,  in October 2006.

 

Reply

6.

Deano Griffin

Michigan, USA

Deano Michigan, USA, wrote:

The Couple in the Photo

   Where is it  -  Photograph of a railway line and a pram.  Possibly Newhaven or Granton ©

"My Cousin, Alan, found your web site.  He e-mailed me and told me to have a look at this picture.  He said  the lady with the man could pass as either his mother or mine, as they both look alike.

Betty's Comment

Right away she said:  'Thatís Oor Margaret and she's wearing my wedding suit'!

Betty informed us that Margaret went to a dance that day (Victoria Day, 1948) without informing her that she was going to wear Betty's suit.

My Mom

My Mom married Bobby Griffin (not the man in the photo) who she met while he was in the Air Force stationed at Kirknewton.

Deano Griffin, Michigan, USA:  March 26, 2008

Photos 3 to 70

Not tonight!

But these are all on the web site.

20 of them still have to be identified.

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Recent Photos

Granton Harbour

Royal Forth Yacht Club Boat Yard on Middle Pier

Bernard Hunter's crane lifts one of the yachts into Granton Harbour

 Granton Middle Pier  -  The day that yachts were lifted into the water  -  5 April 2008

© Copyright: peter.stubbs@edinphoto.org.uk                                                                                             Photograph taken April 5, 2008

 

Granton Harbour

Royal Forth Yacht Club Boat Yard on Middle Pier

Bernard Hunter's crane lifts one of the yachts into Granton Harbour

 Granton Middle Pier  -  The day that yachts were lifted into the water  -  5 April 2008

© Copyright: peter.stubbs@edinphoto.org.uk                                                                                             Photograph taken April 5, 2008

 

Granton Harbour

A yacht, having just been lifted into the water, starts its engine to make its way across Granton Harbour.

 Granton Middle Pier  -  The day that yachts were lifted into the water  -  5 April 2008

© Copyright: peter.stubbs@edinphoto.org.uk                                                                                             Photograph taken April 5, 2008

 

Granton Harbour

A yacht, after being lifted into the water makes its way across Granton Harbour

In the background are more yachts, the Island of Inchkeith in the Firth of Forth and Granton Eastern Breakwater

 Granton Middle Pier  -  The day that yachts were lifted into the water  -  5 April 2008

© Copyright: peter.stubbs@edinphoto.org.uk                                                                                             Photograph taken April 5, 2008

 

Granton Harbour

Looking to the north from the decking in Royal Forth Yacht Club Boat Yard on Middle Pier

This view looks towards the harbour entrance.  The modern building is a base for Forth Ports' Pilot Boats.

The older building on Middle Pier is the old gunpowder house, possibly due to be converted into a restaurant.

 Granton Middle Pier  -  The day that yachts were lifted into the water  -  5 April 2008

© Copyright: peter.stubbs@edinphoto.org.uk                                                                                             Photograph taken April 5, 2008

 

John Dinwoodie & Sons

   Granton Middle Pier  -  The day that yachts were lifted into the water  -  5 April 2008 ©

"The old building that you describe as the  gunpowder house, above, was the base for John Dinwoodie & Sons, sail makers, riggers and ships painters.

The trawlermen's motto for the company was jokingly,

'If it don't move, paint it.'

Dinwoodie also had a small fleet of tugs. Anybody who had anything to do with Granton Harbour will remember them.   They used a lot of casual labour, if I recall correctly."

Andy Hall, Newcastle-upon-Tyne, England:  April 9, 2008

 

Granton Ice Company

Granton Harbour - A load for a power station arrives from Bruce Peebles in the 1960s ©

"You describe the old building on the pier as the old gunpowder house and as John Dinwoodie's depot.  I'm sure I've seen a photo of it somewhere with 'Granton Ice Company' (or similar) on it."

Patrick Hutton, New Town Edinburgh:  April 9, 2008

Aerial View  -  early 1970s

An aerial view of United Wire Works, off West Granton Road, SW of Granton Harbour

©  Reproduced by courtesy of Scotsman Publications.   Click here for web site details.

 

Aerial View  -  early 1970s  -  with key

©  Reproduced by courtesy of Scotsman Publications.   Click here for web site details.

 

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Introduction

Granton

Question

Granton

Photos

Granton

Maps.

Granton

Memories

Lochinvar

 

6 7 8 9 10 11

Waterfront

Maps

Waterfront

Photos

Newhaven

Fishwives

Newhaven

Streets

Transport

Panoramas

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Links to Other Pages

EdinPhoto - Home Page  Please send me an e-mail ...  with your questions, comments, suggestions or news.   At any time, you can search for a word  -  perhaps a photographer's name or a photographic topic.  The search will produce a list of pages on the EdinPhoto web site where this word appears.     At any time, you can search for a word  -  perhaps a photographer's name or a photographic topic.  The search will produce a list of pages on the EdinPhoto web site where this word appears.  

Photographs and Other Images  -  These include portraits of photographers  -  photographic outings -  Princes Street views  -  Newhaven Fishwives  -  etc.  Early Photography in Edinburgh  -  Talbot, Brewster, Hill & Adamson, Early Professional Photographers in Princes Street, etc.  Professional Photographers in Edinburgh  -  1840 to 1940  -  Their names, dates of business and studio addresses.  The Photographic Society of Scotland  -  1856 to 1873  -  Lectures, Exhibitions, Outings, etc.  The History of Edinburgh Photographic Society  -  1861 to date  -  Lectures, Exhibitions, Outings, Poems, etc.  EPS Publications - EPS Handwritten Records  -  Photographic Journals  -  Trade Directories  -  Books  -  etc.  Thanks to all who have encouraged and supported me in creating the EdinPhoto web site  -  including descendants of photographers  -  researchers  -  providers of photographs and other material  Background notes on the research thal led up to the creation of this site  -   together with lists of new material added to the site since its launch.  Brief comments on how this site might be used  -  Just browsing?  -  Seeking specific information?  Please add your questions, suggestions or other comments to the Guest Book.  Links to other web sites  -  Photographic Societies  -  Photographic History  -  Family History  -  etc.  Click here to find the link to the Edinburgh Photogrpahic Society web site.

 

A selection of my photographs, many from Edinburgh throughout the year.   Also photos from Scotland, London, Iceland, Italy, Hong Kong and elsewhere     Many old maps of Edinburgh (Old Town, New Town, while City), Leith and Newhaven.  Includes several old transport maps and a comparison of old maps with recent aerial photos.   Old engravings, mailly of Edinburgh scenes.  Some from the 1820s, some from the 1890s,  some others - includes many hand-coloured examples from the 1820s.   News from Edinburgh today  -  Events, Collections, Buildings and Gardens, Transport   This site includes     1. Post card portraits taken in studios in Edinburgh:    2. Post card views either takeen/published by Ediburgh photographers or views of Edinburgh, or both.y Edinburgh    Views of Edinburgh, grouped into three sections:     1. Street views:    2. Buildings:    3. Around Edinburgh   Views of transport around Edinburgh  -  Horse drawn trams and buses, cable cars, electric trams, buses and a few railway photos.  Also several maps of Edinburgh's bus and tram routes.   Links to pages with Photos of Groups   Frequently Asked Questions

  Summary of the updates added to this site each month since the site was launched   Links to Dumbiedykes pages  Link to Granton pages  Link to Leith pages   Link to Newhaven pages   Links to Portobello pages   Link to My Recent Talks