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Where and When?

Four children on the beach  -  Where is it?

  Reproduced with acknowledgement to John Stirling, Currie, Edinburgh:  November 6, 2009                            Photographer not known

 

Enlarge this photo

   Four Children on the sands  -  Where is it?

 

On the Beach

Old Photo

Thank you to John Stirling for allowing me to reproduce this photo.  The photo is taken from a collection of lantern slides that John rescued from being destroyed in 1974.  The photographer is not known.

Some of the other slides from this series are known to have been taken between about 1910 and 1920.

When and Where?

Is it near North Berwick?

If you can suggest when and where this photo might have been taken, please email me.

Maybe the photo was taken from North Berwick in East Lothian (about 25 miles to the east of Edinburgh) or nearby, with the Bass Rock in the background.  The top of the rock looks a little flatter than it appears on some photos, but it, no doubt, looks different when photographed from different positions.

Peter Stubbs:  November 22, 2009

 

Recollections

Replies

      Four Children on the sands  -  Where is it?

1.

Walter Lyle Hume
Cowes, Isle of Wight, England

Craigleith from North Berwick

2.

David Bain
Rotherham, South Yorkshire, England

Bass Rock from Aberlady

3.

Bryan Gourlay
Biggar, Lanarkshire, Scotland

Craigleith from North Berwick

4.

Walter Lyle Hume
Cowes, Isle of Wight, England

The Lamb from North Berwick

5.

Archie Foley
Joppa, Edinburgh

NOT Craigleith

6.

David Bain
Rotherham, South Yorkshire, England

Bass Rock from North Berwick

7.

Bryan Gourlay
Biggar, Lanarkshire, Scotland

Bass Rock from North Berwick

8.

Bob Henderson
Burdiehouse, Edinburgh

Bass Rock from Tantallon Castle

9.

Bryan Gourlay
Biggar, Lanarkshire, Scotland

The Lamb from North Berwick

10.

David Bain
Rotherham, South Yorkshire, England

Bass Rock from East of Tantallon

11.

David Bain
Rotherham, South Yorkshire, England

Bass Rock from Bellhaven?

12.

Bill Fulton
East Lothian, Scotland

Bass Rock from Bellhaven?

13.

David Anderson
Glasgow, Scotland

Ailsa Craig from Ayr Sands

14.

Ian Stewart
Morningside, Edinburgh

Ailsa Craig

15.

David Anderson
Glasgow, Scotland

Ailsa Craig from Ayr Beach

16.

David Bain
Rotherham, South Yorkshire, England

NOT Ailsa Craig

17.

Winnie Lisowski
Dunbar, East Lothian, Scotland

Bass Rock from Bellhaven

18.

Winnie Lisowski
Dunbar, East Lothian, Scotland

Steep Holm from Weston-super-Mare

19.

David Bain
Rotherham, South Yorkshire, England

Steep Holm from Weston-super-Mare

20.

Winnie Lisowski
Dunbar, East Lothian, Scotland

NOT Bass Rock

21.

Roger McDermaid
Corstorphine, Edinburgh

Ailsa Craig from Maidens

22.

Roger McDermaid
Corstorphine, Edinburgh

Ailsa Craig?

23.

Milton Hey

Bass Rock from the Fife Coast

24.

Donald Grant
Penicuik, Midlothian, Scotland

Steep Holm in the Bristol Channel

 

Answer

1.

Walter Lyle Hume

Cowes, Isle of Wight, England

Thank you to Walter Lyle Hume who wrote:

Another Photo

"Here is another photo taken on the beach, circa 1925.  This photo has Craigleith Island in the background.

 Food for thought!"

Craigleith Island

Girl on the Beach, around 1925.  Craigleith Island in the background

   Reproduced with acknowledgement to Walter Lyle Hume ,Cowes, Isle of Wight, England

Walter Lyle Hume, Cowes, Isle of Wight, England:  November 23, 2009

Craigleith Island

Craigleith Island is in the Firth of Forth, about a mile to the north of North Berwick and 3 miles to the west of the Bass Rock.

The island in the photograph at the top of this page appears to have less of a slope than Craigleith in the photograph above.  However, maybe the shape of Craigleith looks different when viewed from different parts of the coast near North Berwick.

Peter Stubbs:  November 23, 2009

 

Answer

2.

David Bain

Rotherham, South Yorkshire, England

Thank you to David Bain who wrote:

East Lothian

"Aberlady?  I'm sure that's the Bass Rock in the background."

David Bain, Rotherham, South Yorkshire, England:  November 23, 2009

Aberlady?

If the island is the Bass Rock, or even if it's Craigleith Island, I don't think the photo could have been taken from Aberlady, because there is no clear view across the water to of either of these islands from Aberlady.  The headland to the west of North Berwick is in the way.

Peter Stubbs:  November 23, 2009

 

Answer

3.

Bryan Gourlay

Biggar, Lanarkshire, Scotland

Thank you to Bryan Gourlay for sending me two photos, showing the shape of Craigleith Island as seen from North Berwick.  Bryan took these photos at Easter 2009.  Here is one of them:

Craigleith Island

Craigleith Island  -  Easter 2009

  Bryan Gourlay, Biggar Lanarkshire, Scotland                                   Photo taken Easter 2009

 

Bryan wrote:

Not Craigleith

"The island in the photo of the four children is a different shape and looks to be too far offshore to be Craigleith.

It's also not the same shape as the Bass Rock looking from North Berwick.  Perhaps it has been taken further East of the town from a beach near Seacliffe close to Tantallon Castle, where it would also be a little bit further offshore"

Bryan Gourlay, Biggar, Lanarkshire, Scotland: November 24, 2009

 

Answer

4.

Walter Lyle Hume

Cowes, Isle of Wight, England

Thank you to Walter Lyle Hume who wrote:

The Lamb?

"Having been brought up in North Berwick, albeit many years ago, I got to know the offshore Islands very well, to say nothing of my years  the Northern Lighthouse ships.

Four Children on the sands  -  Where is it?

This picture could even be the Lamb, between the Craig and Fidra.  I am sure it is not the Bass.

Walter Lyle Hume, Cowes, Isle of Wight, England:  November 24, 2009

The Lamb is:

-  about 1 mile NW of North Berwick and

-  about 1 mile WSW of Craigleith.

Peter Stubbs:  November 24, 2009

Answer

5.

Archie Foley

Joppa, Edinburgh

Thank you to Archie Foley for sending me a photograph of the Bass Rock, taken from a passing ferry, and for also sending this photo with Craigleith in the background.

Archie wrote:

Not Craigleith

"I have looked through my collection of North Berwick images made from restored negatives from about 1905.  I can't find one with the Bass Rock in the background.

However, this one of Nurse Annie and Tommy with dog shows the distinctive shape of Craigleith.

Craigleith Island

Nurse Annie and Tommy with dog, and Craigleith Island in the background  -  Around 1905

  Reproduced with acknowledgement to Archie Foley                     Photo taken  around 1905

Archie Foley, Joppa, Edinburgh:  November 24, 2009

 

Answer

6.

David Bain

Rotherham, South Yorkshire, England

Thank you to David Bain for telling me  me about more photos of the Bass Rock and Craigleith that appear elsewhere on the internet.

Following on from his comments in 'Answer 2' above, David added:

East Lothian

"I just had to keep digging (sand) on this one.   I was wrong about Aberlady - I haven't been there for thirty-odd years!

Four Children on the sands  -  Where is it?

But I think I was right about the Bass.  If so, the photo looks to me to have been taken from somewhere to the east of North Berwick."

David Bain, Rotherham, South Yorkshire, England:  November 25, 2009

Answer

7.

Bryan Gourlay

Biggar, Lanarkshire, Scotland

Thank you to Bryan Gourlay for sending me this photo showing the shape of the Bass Rock, seen from outside the Seabird Centre at North Berwick.

The Bass Rock
from North Berwick

The Bass Rock, seen from outside the Seabird Centre, North Berwick

  Bryan Gourlay, Biggar Lanarkshire, Scotland                                   Photo taken Easter 2009

Acknowledgement:  Bryan Gourlay, Biggar, Lanarkshire, Scotland: November 24+25, 2009

 

Answer

8.

Bob Henderson

Burdiehouse, Edinburgh

Thank you to Bob Henderson for sending me two more photos of the Bass rock.  Both are views looking to the Bass Rock from Tantallon Castle.  Here is one of them:

The Bass Rock
from Tantallon Castle

The Bass Rock, seen from outside the Seabird Centre, North Berwick

  Bob Henderson, Burdiehouse, Edinburgh

Acknowledgement:  Bob Henderson, Burdiehouse Edinburgh 25, 2009

Comparison with the Mystery Photo

Neither  the photo above nor that in 'Answer 7' above shows the Bass Rock as being a good match for the island in the background of the old photo above, but I feel we're getting closer.

The island in the old photo looks lower than the Bass Rock, but perhaps the old photo was taken at high tide and the two recent photos at low tide - or alternatively, perhaps the island in the old photo is not the Bass Rock!

Four children on the beach  -  Where is it?

  Reproduced with acknowledgement to John Stirling, Currie, Edinburgh:  November 6, 2009

Peter Stubbs, Edinburgh:  November 26, 2009

Answer

9.

Bryan Gourlay

Biggar, Lanarkshire, Scotland

Thank you to Bryan Gourlay for emailing me again, enclosing this photo of  the Lamb, an island about a mile NW of North Berwick.  The photo was taken from North Berwick at Easter 2009.

Bryan wrote:

The Lamb

"I am not as well versed in the islands around North Berwick as Walter Lyle Hume (Answer 4 above) but here is a photo I took this year of what I think is the Lamb in the distance.

It's about a mile to the left of Craigleith,  just where you describe it.  It looks about the right shape for the island behind the girls on the beach.

The Lamb
from North Berwick

The Lamb Island, about a mile NW of North Berwick.  The photo was taken from North Berwick at Easter 2009

  Bryan Gourlay, Biggar Lanarkshire, Scotland                                   Photo taken Easter 2009

Acknowledgement:  Bryan Gourlay, Biggar, Lanarkshire, Scotland: November 25, 2009

 

Answer

10.

David Bain

Rotherham, South Yorkshire, England

Thank you to David Bain for writing again, telling me about his further investigations.

David wrote:

The Bass Rock

"I have now searched all the available photographs and have worked out, by the visible shape of the Bass and its relative size in the photograph, that the scene of four children on the beach would have been taken from further East than Tantallon and further North than Dunbar."

After another look at the map, my money would be on the photo having been taken at Belhaven."

David Bain, Rotherham, South Yorkshire, England:  November 27, 2009

David:

Trying to match the shape of the Bass rock, when viewed from different angles is important, care should be taken in drawing any conclusions from the size of the bass rock in the photo, when it is not known what lens camera and lens was used to take the photo, and whether or not the photo has been cropped.

e.g.  If two photos were taken on the beach:

-   one with a 50mm lens and the children 10 yards away

-  one with a 100mm (i.e. more telephoto) lens and children 20 yards away

The children would look the same size in each photo, but the length and height of the Bass Rock would appear to be double in the second photo.

Peter Stubbs, Edinburgh:  November 28, 2009

 

Answer

11.

David Bain

Rotherham, South Yorkshire, England

David Bain followed up with this message:

The Bass Rock

"I am now more confident than ever that the photo was taken at Belhaven, with the Bass Rock in the background.

The Lamb is a good shape, but the Bass is a better match."

David Bain, Rotherham, South Yorkshire, England:  November 27+28, 2009

Belhaven Photo Found

David based this conclusion on a photo of children playing at Belhaven, Sands, Dunbar, with the Bass Rock in the background.  The photo is from a negative by Valentines, registered October 19, 1955.  It is reproduced below.

A half-plate print of this photo is held in the St Andrew's University Library.  The 1955 photo and early 'mystery photo' are compared below.

Belhaven Bay seems a likely place for children to have been photographed, beside the sea, in the early photo, but was that photo actually taken there?  The shape of the Bass Rock looks similar, but not identical, in both photos below.

1955

Children on Belhaven Sands, Dunbar, 1955

  Reproduced courtesy of the University of St Andrew's Library.   Project763, Ref JV-D1146
Licensor: www.scran.ac.uk    Ref.000-000-600-920-C

 

Early 1900s

Four children on the beach  -  Where is it?

  Reproduced with acknowledgement to John Stirling, Currie, Edinburgh:  November 6, 2009

Peter Stubbs, Edinburgh:  December 2, 2009

 

Answer

12

Bill Fulton

East Lothian, Scotland

Thank you to Bil Fulton, a keen stereo photographer living in East Lothian, Scotland, for recognising this view of the bridge at Belhaven, Dunbar and sending me one of his photos taken at the same location in 2010.

Bil wrote:

Belhaven

"This structure at Belhaven is known as 'The Bridge to Nowhere'. 

There is  a good view of the Bass Rock in the background from here.  This is one of our favourite spots when we are walking or cycling.

2010

Stereo View of the 'Bridge to Nowhere', Belhaven Bay, Dunbar, Scotland

Bil Fulton, East Lothian, Scotland.                                                                Photo taken 2010

This is a stereo shot that I took of the bridge in 2010, using a single camera."

Bil Fulton, East Lothian, Scotland:  April 26+28, 2011

 

Answer

13.

David Anderson

Glasgow, Scotland

David Anderson wrote:

Further Afield?

"I'm wondering if the net may have to be cast further afield. 

Can I throw Ailsa Craig into the equation?  I'm wondering about whether the image might be reversed, combined with the light direction and the profile of the island - perhaps Ayr Sands."

David Anderson, Glasgow, Scotland:  January 21, 2012

David:

Most of the other photos in the collection that this one came from were taken in or near Edinburgh.  From all the evidence and comments to date, it seems likely to me that this photo would have been taken on the Forth, probably at Belhaven Bay near Dunbar in East Lothian.  See Reply 11 above.

I'll leave others to comment further.

Peter Stubbs, Edinburgh:  January 21, 2011

 

Answer

14.

Ian Stewart

Morningside, Edinburgh

Ian Stewart wrote:

Ailsa Craig

"It could be Ailsa Craig."

Ian Stewart, Morningside, Edinburgh:  January 22, 2012

 

Answer

15.

David Anderson

Glasgow, Scotland

David tells me that he lives in Glasgow and works in Dunbar, East Lothian, so he is familiar both with beaches on the west coast of Scotland and on the Firth of  Forth in East Lothian.

David wrote:

Ailsa Craig?

"When I saw this photo, the shape, position and orientation of the beach and rock did not immediately strike me as being one of the beaches that I was familiar with on the East Lothian coast of the Firth of Forth.

Having wandered through Google images, I tend to the view that it is a reversed image of Ailsa Craig from Ayr beach.  We take our wee laddie to Ayr.  Hence my observation."

David Anderson, Glasgow, Scotland:  January 23 2012

Answer

16.

David Bain

Rotherham, South Yorkshire, England

Thank you to David Bain who wrote:

Not Ailsa Craig?

"I've looked at any available photographs of Ailsa Craig and it looks too 'pointy' to me.

We desperately need a volunteer to take a Sunday run out to prove or disprove the Bass by taking photographs near the tide line at Belhaven. I'd do it but I'm 250 miles away!

The matching focal length is moot but a set of images through the range of a standard zoom should achieve something like the original field of view."

David Bain, Rotherham, South Yorkshire, England:  January 25, 2012

Answer

17.

Winnie Lisowski

Dunbar, East Lothian, Scotland

Thank you to Winnie Lisowski for also sending me three photos of the beach and bridge at Bellhaven near Dunbar, with the Bass rock in the background, all taken in 2002.

I've reproduced one of Winnie's photos below, followed by the 'Early 1900s' photo for comparison.

2002

Belhaven Bay Sands and Bridge at Dunbar and the Bass Rock, 2002

  Winnie Lisowski, Dunbar, East Lothian, Scotland,  Feb 11, 2012.               Photo taken 2002

Early 1900s

Four children on the beach  -  Where is it?

  Reproduced with acknowledgement to John Stirling, Currie, Edinburgh:  November 6, 2009

 

Acknowledgement:  Winnie Lisowski, Dunbar, East Lothian, Scotland:  February 11, 2012

Answer

18.

Winnie Lisowski

Dunbar, East Lothian, Scotland

Thank you to  Winnie Lisowski for writing with another suggestion about where this photo might have been taken:

Four children on the beach  -  Where is it?

  Reproduced with acknowledgement to John Stirling, Currie, Edinburgh:  November 6, 2009

Winnie wrote:

Mystery Rock

"We have just watched 'Inside Men' on BBC which we taped during the week and there was a scene in it at a beach, my husband immediately said: "That is the 'mystery rock'."

I immediately had to agree as it jumped out at being the right one, don't know why it just looked right in every way.  We couldn't believe it.

Unfortunately, they didn't say where it was -  somewhere in England, I would think."

Winnie Lisowski, Dunbar, East Lothian, Scotland:  February 17, 2012

Winnie wrote again, after doing a little more investigation.

Steep Holm

Weston-Super-Mare

"I went to the message board on BBC, asking anyone if they knew where this beach that was featured on Inside Men could be. 

I have had 3 replies already, saying its Weston-Super-Mare beach and the rock is Steep Holm.  We have checked the google map and Steep Holme's profile viewed from Weston-Super-Mare certainly matches with the 1900 photo.

Let me know your thoughts on this."

Winnie Lisowski, Dunbar, East Lothian, Scotland:  February 18, 2012

Reply

Here are links to the Google Images pages for:

Steep Holm, Weston-super-Mare, Somerset and

Bass Rock, Dunbar, East Lothian

The shapes of both these islands in the Google Image photos varies according to the viewpoint and, no doubt, the state of the tide.

I must agree that some of the Steep Holm photos seem to give the best match for the shape of the rock in the photo taken around 1900.

However the photo taken around 1900 comes from a set in which I believe all the other photos were taken in or around Edinburgh, so how likely is it that one of the photos was taken at Weston-super-Mare?

Peter Stubbs:  Edinburgh:  February 18, 2012

Answer

19.

David Bain

Rotherham, South Yorkshire, England

Thank you to David Bain who wrote again:

Steep Holm

"Despite having been a keen proponent for The Bass, I had spent an hour earlier this week looking at other possibilities because I came to the conclusion that The Bass has a slightly more pointed profile than the rock in the picture.

I had looked at The Cumbraes but they're too flat, Ailsa Craig is too pointy, but Steep Holm looks like the best bet yet.

As to continuity, there might have been months between exposures if the photographer was a 'high days and holidays only' type." **

David Bain, Rotherham, South Yorkshire, England:  February 19, 2012

**  David

Your 'high days and holidays' explanation sounds plausible, except for the fact that the other photos in this collection are not family shots.

They are a collection of lantern slides that appear to have been taken for  Edinburgh Corporation Health Dept, some apparently promoting the benefits of sports and outdoor activities.

These lantern slides were 'rescued' and narrowly escaped being thrown out.  Unfortunately, I don't know of any papers that have survived relating to this collection, and the individual lantern slides are not captioned.

Peter Stubbs, Edinburgh:  February 19, 2012

Answer

20.

Winnie Lisowski

Dunbar, East Lothian, Scotland

Thank you to  Winnie Lisowski for writing again.

Winnie wrote:

NOT  The Bass Rock

"I was looking at the Bass Rock photos in the link given in the Reply to Answer 18 above.

The Bass Rock has a 60 degree angle on the right side and 45degree on the left side which rules it out."

Winnie Lisowski, Dunbar, East Lothian, Scotland:  February 17, 2012

The Bass Rock?

I've also been looking at the photos in that link.  I agree.  The shape of the Bass Rock does not seem to be a good match for the island in the old photo.

The shape of the Bass Rock seems to vary from photo to photo, but in none of them does the top look flat enough to match the island in the old photo.

Peter Stubbs, Edinburgh:  February 19, 2012

Answer

21.

Roger McDermaid

Corstorphine, Edinburgh

Thank you to  Roger McDermaid who wrote:

Ailsa Craig

"I'm pretty sure that this photo is of Ailsa Craig."

   Four Children on the sands  -  Where is it?

Roger McDermaid, Corstorphine, Edinburgh: February 21, 2012 (1st email)

Roger wrote again, adding

Ailsa Craig

"I've looked up map, and I'm quite prepared to wager that this photo was taken at a  place that I've driven through, when at Turnberry.

   Four Children on the sands  -  Where is it?

It's a sort of typical wee seaside spot with caravans  -  a sort of of west coast Port Seton.  My cash`s on that "

Roger McDermaid, Corstorphine, Edinburgh: February 21, 2012 (2nd email)

I've also been looking at the photos in that link.  I agree.  The shape of the Bass Rock does not seem to be a good match for the island in the old photo.

The shape of the Bass Rock seems to vary from photo to photo, but in none of them does the top look flat enough to match the island in the old photo.

Peter Stubbs, Edinburgh:  February 19, 2012

Answer

22.

Roger McDermaid

Corstorphine, Edinburgh

Thank you to  Roger McDermaid who wrote:

Ailsa Craig?

   Four Children on the sands  -  Where is it?

"My wife thinks this photo is of the Bass Rock, taken from Dunbar.

But I agree with 13 above, and now think that the photo is of the Craig, taken from either Ayr or Maidens because of the shape of the rock, and I think that if it was the Bass Rock, it would appear to be bit nearer."

Roger McDermaid, Corstorphine, Edinburgh: March 8, 2012 (2 emails)

Hi Roger:

The shape of the rock should  be a good guide to which rock it is, thought the shape of the Bass Rock does seem to vary a lot depending on the viewpoint and the state of the tide.

I recommend not trying to draw conclusions from how close the rock seems to be.  Use of a wider focal length lens is likely to make the rock look smaller and further away;  use of a telephoto lens will make it larger (compared to the size of the children) and closer.

Peter Stubbs, Edinburgh:  March 8, 2012

Answer

23.

Milton Hey

Thank you to  Milton Hey for making another suggestion.

Milton wrote:

The Bass Rock

"I've just come across your query about the photograph of the four children on the beach, after Bing featured the footbridge onto Belhaven beach.

   Four Children on the sands  -  Where is it?

I believe that this photo is of the Bass Rock, taken from the Fife coast."

Roger McDermaid, Corstorphine, Edinburgh: June 14, 2013

Hi Milton:

Photo from the Fife Coast

Thanks for your suggestion above.  It's just over a year since anybody sent me a response to this photo, so we'll see if the subject comes to life again now.

You are the first person to have suggested that the photo might have been taken from the Fife coast.  Can you tell me why you make that suggestion?  Is it the outline shape of the rock?

Peter Stubbs, Edinburgh:  June 16, 2013

Answer

24.

Donald Grant

Penicuik, Midlothian, Scotland

It's almost a year since anybody sent me a message speculating on where this photo might have been taken,

   Four Children on the sands  -  Where is it?

but I've now received another reply.  It comes from Donald Grant who wrote:

Steep Holm

"I've been killing time this morning due to the wet weather and had a look through some of your mystery photos, in particular the photo that appears to be the Bass Rock.

Reading through some of the comments, I noted that Steep Holm, an island in the Bristol Channel was suggested.

Not being familiar with the area I went looking via Google to find out more.  I came across this image on the web

Having studied both this image and the one on your site

   Four Children on the sands  -  Where is it?

I'm in no doubt that they are both of the same island. The profile of the island is virtually identical in both images, and knowing that Steep Holm is five miles offshore (much farther than the Bass Rock) I would say that the perspective is correct in your image. ***

Not the Bass Rock or Ailsa Craig

As some have suggested the profile of the Bass Rock is too 'pointy' to be the island in your photo and to my mind Steep Holm is a far more likely candidate.

Ailsa Craig can also be discounted as its profile does not match your image or the one I've highlighted.

Donald Grant, Penicuik, Midlothian Scotland

Comment

***  Hi Donald:

Thanks for your research and observations.  I found the link that you sent to be interesting.

-  Comparing the profile of the island in the two photos, as you have done, seems to me to be a good way to try to decide whether or not the two photos are of the same island.

-  However, drawing conclusions based on the apparent distance that the island is offshore in the two photos can be more problematical if it is not known what cameras and lenses the two photos were taken with.

e.g. If the photographer who took the photo at the top of this page  had used a longer lens (and stood further back from the children to take his photo) the island would appear in his photo to be closer to the shore.

Peter Stubbs, Edinburgh:  May 1, 2014

 

Dunbar

Where is it?

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Photographs and Other Images  -  These include portraits of photographers  -  photographic outings -  Princes Street views  -  Newhaven Fishwives  -  etc.  Early Photography in Edinburgh  -  Talbot, Brewster, Hill & Adamson, Early Professional Photographers in Princes Street, etc.  Professional Photographers in Edinburgh  -  1840 to 1940  -  Their names, dates of business and studio addresses.  The Photographic Society of Scotland  -  1856 to 1873  -  Lectures, Exhibitions, Outings, etc.  The History of Edinburgh Photographic Society  -  1861 to date  -  Lectures, Exhibitions, Outings, Poems, etc.  EPS Publications - EPS Handwritten Records  -  Photographic Journals  -  Trade Directories  -  Books  -  etc.  Thanks to all who have encouraged and supported me in creating the EdinPhoto web site  -  including descendants of photographers  -  researchers  -  providers of photographs and other material  Background notes on the research thal led up to the creation of this site  -   together with lists of new material added to the site since its launch.  Brief comments on how this site might be used  -  Just browsing?  -  Seeking specific information?  Please add your questions, suggestions or other comments to the Guest Book.  Links to other web sites  -  Photographic Societies  -  Photographic History  -  Family History  -  etc.  Click here to find the link to the Edinburgh Photogrpahic Society web site.

 

A selection of my photographs, many from Edinburgh throughout the year.   Also photos from Scotland, London, Iceland, Italy, Hong Kong and elsewhere     Many old maps of Edinburgh (Old Town, New Town, while City), Leith and Newhaven.  Includes several old transport maps and a comparison of old maps with recent aerial photos.   Old engravings, mailly of Edinburgh scenes.  Some from the 1820s, some from the 1890s,  some others - includes many hand-coloured examples from the 1820s.   News from Edinburgh today  -  Events, Collections, Buildings and Gardens, Transport   This site includes     1. Post card portraits taken in studios in Edinburgh:    2. Post card views either takeen/published by Ediburgh photographers or views of Edinburgh, or both.y Edinburgh    Views of Edinburgh, grouped into three sections:     1. Street views:    2. Buildings:    3. Around Edinburgh   Views of transport around Edinburgh  -  Horse drawn trams and buses, cable cars, electric trams, buses and a few railway photos.  Also several maps of Edinburgh's bus and tram routes.   Links to pages with Photos of Groups   Frequently Asked Questions

  Summary of the updates added to this site each month since the site was launched   Links to Dumbiedykes pages  Link to Granton pages  Link to Leith pages   Link to Newhaven pages   Links to Portobello pages   Link to My Recent Talks