Recollections - Entertainment
Palais de Danse
Fountainbridge, Edinburgh |
Recollections
|
1. |
Eric Sloane
Emerald, Victoria, Australia
|
- Bruce Peebles Workers
- Drink
- The Hall |
2. |
Paul Sutherland
Glasgow, Scotland |
- Johnny Kildare Orchestra |
2.
Reply 1 |
Janice
Kania
Wiltshire, England |
- Johnny Kildare |
3. |
Bryan Gourlay
Biggar, Lanarkshire, Scotland
|
- George Marino Quartet |
4. |
Bryan Gourlay
Biggar, Lanarkshire, Scotland
|
- Revolving Stage |
5. |
Lauren Kelly
Edinburgh
|
- Palais de Danse and Bingo Hall
- Request for Help |
6. |
Sharon Shepherd
Dollar,
Clackmannanshire, Scotland
|
- Pete Seton Band |
7. |
John Wilson
Somerset, England
|
- Children's Dances
- Teddy Boys |
8. |
Dick Martin
Borders, Scotland
|
- 'Oh What a Night It Was'
- Thursday Night |
9. |
Harry
Cadger |
- Peter Seaton
|
10. |
Julie
Starr
Edinburgh |
- Ricky and the Sapphires
- Ian Paterson
|
10.
Reply 1 |
Stewart Campbell |
- The Premiers
- Ian Paterson
|
10.
Reply 2 |
John
Brown |
-
The Premiers
- Ricky and the Sapphires
- Ian Paterson
|
10.
Reply 3 |
Julie
Starr
Edinburgh |
- Ricky and the Sapphires
- Ian Paterson
|
11. |
Stewart Campbell |
[Now re-numbered
'10 Reply 1'] |
12. |
Bob
Sinclair
Queensland, Australia |
- "Are ye
dancing"
|
13. |
Vicki Riley
(née Bollen) |
- Scrap Book
- Tom Bollen
- Dancing Sessions
|
14. |
Graham Simpson
Vancouver, British Columbia, Canada |
- Friday Nights
- Drinks
- Dance Floor
- Bouncers
- Music
|
15. |
David Ford |
- 1950s
|
16. |
Lex Gordon
New South Wales, Australia |
- 1953-54
|
17. |
James McEwan |
- DJs
|
18. |
John Fraser
Inch, Edinburgh |
- Bands in the 1950s
|
19. |
James McEwan |
- More Bands in the 1950s
|
20. |
John Fraser
Inch, Edinburgh |
- Entertainers,
1957-59
|
21. |
Jack
Hawthorne
Crossgar, Co. Down, Northern Ireland
|
- Dance Floors
|
22. |
Hank Kaczynski
Crossgar, Co.
Down,
Northern Ireland |
- Dance Floors
|
23. |
Jack
Hawthorne
Crossgar, Co. Down, Northern Ireland
|
- Dance Floors
|
24. |
Mike Cassidy
|
- Manfred Mann
British Pathé
film,
1964
|
25. |
Marcin Walczac
Edinburgh
|
- Video of the Palais
- Request
|
26. |
Bill Hay
|
- The Big Bands
- The Revolving Stage
|
Recollections
1.
Eric Sloane
Emerald, Victoria, Australia |
Thank you to Eric Sloane for the recollections of the Palais de Danse
below, from the time when he worked for
Bruce Peebles engineering works in the early 1960s.
Eric lived in the
Boswall area of Edinburgh from the 1940s until 1963. He now
lives in Emerald, Victoria, Australia.
Eric wrote: |
Bruce Peebles Workers
"The guys and girls at Bruce Peebles got on pretty
well and many of us used to go to the "Palais De Danse" hall on a Friday
night."
|
Drink
"Everybody got hopelessly drunk before going to the
dance and even more so inside.
It was crucial to appear sober to get past the
bouncers."
|
The Hall
"The Palais had a revolving stage and a floor
reputedly sprung with tennis balls which could make you seasick when inebriated.
Around the dance floor were tables and chairs, the
floor always slippery and wet. It was very cliquey (to put it mildly).
In large part, the single lads sat on one side and
the girls on the other. To ask a single girl to dance meant spying her with her
mates, working up courage then crossing to the other side of the undulating
dance floor for ultimate rebuffal!
The most advanced technology in the hall was the
automatic photo booth, very new at the time and very popular with courting
couples.
The band was really quite antiquated playing dance
tunes from the previous decade. I think the Beatles put an end to that."
|
Eric Sloane, Emerald, Victoria, Australia -
formerly Edinburgh - October 2005
|
Recollections
2.
Paul Sutherland
Glasgow, Scotland |
Thank you to Paul Sutherland who wrote: |
Johnny Kildare Orchestra
©
"This photo of
the Johnny Kildare Orchestra
*** at the Palais de Danse shows my Dad,
the famous John Sutherland, in his roll of dance band double
bassist.
He worked at the Palais a lot in various
groups and bands, as well as at the
bandstand in Princes Street Gardens."
Paul Sutherland, Glasgow,
Scotland: July 28, 2008 |
*** In
fact, Recollections 6 below says that this photo is of the Pete
Seton Band. |
Recollections
2.
Reply
1.
Janice Kania
Wiltshire, England |
Thank you to Janice Kania who wrote: |
Johnny Kildare Orchestra
"I've just read about Johnny
Kildare (above). He was Johnny Kilbride from Rumford, a
village south of Falkirk. He was my mother's 2nd cousin and we
have family photos of him - and the family tree!
As well as leading his band, he
provided singers for some of the clubs around Falkirk. The
last time I saw him was as a teenager in the 1960s when he invited
me to audition for him - but I'll draw a veil over that!"
Janice Kania, Wiltshire, England: 18 November
2017 |
Recollections
3.
Bryan Gourlay
Biggar, Lanarkshire, Scotland |
Thank you to Bryan Gourlay who wrote: |
George Marino Quartet
"My cousin's
husband, George Langlands, was leader of the
band, 'The
George Marino Quartet'. He played keyboards.
The band
played at the Palais de Danse for a few years in the early 1960s. They
used to come round on the revolving stage and play for about 40
minutes while the big band went off for a well-earned rest.
George tells me that the Palais’ large revolving stage was pretty
primitive, and was
hand cranked."
Bryan Gourlay, Biggar,
Lanarkshire, Scotland: August 27, 2008 |
Recollections
4.
Bryan Gourlay
Biggar, Lanarkshire, Scotland |
Thank you to Bryan Gourlay who wrote again: |
Revolving Stage
"George Langlands, of the George
Marino quartet, tells me they often had ‘interesting moments’ going
round on the large turntable at the Palais.
His quartet would be on one side and the
big band on the other. The band on the dancers’ side would continue
to play as they were turned round by two men ‘cawing’ the handles on
opposite sides of the turntable. Sometimes, they would turn the
handles that bit faster trying to unsettle the band as it continued
to play its way round until out of sight – or even get a four-man
crew on the job to make it whiz round.
George remembers the turntable going off
the rails one evening and tilting about 30 degrees while the Joe
Loss band was playing. Apparently, the band tried its best to appear
utterly unfazed, determined to finish their rendition of ‘I’ll be
Loving You Always’."
Bryan Gourlay, Biggar,
Lanarkshire, Scotland: August 27, 2008 |
Recollections
5
Lauren Kelly
Edinburgh |
Thank you to Lauren
Kelly who wrote |
Palais de Danse
and Bingo Hall
"I am a film student currently writing a
proposal for a documentary on the building which once was the Palais
De Danse. In this documentary I am questioning the future of this
building, to which I currently live next door, and its
transition from the Palais De Danse to Bingo Hall, and now empty
building.
There seems to be very little
information on this building's past life available, although I have
noticed many contributors of this site have fond memories of the
Palais De Danse."
|
Request for Help
"I am
interested in hearing more about your memories here:
- Did any
regular events that took place?
- What was
the atmosphere in the
venue?
- Was
it an expensive/inexpensive place to go out to?
- Was it
busy or quiet,?
- Do you have
any stories of
unusual events?
- What
was the general feeling when the closure was announced?
- Do you have
any images of the Palais de Danse?"
|
Thank You
"I'd be very
grateful for anyone to get in contact with me with information on
this subject, as I would like to research
this as in-dept as possible.
Thanks for reading and I look forward
from hearing from you."
|
Lauren Kelly, Edinburgh:
February 24, 2009 |
Reply to Lauren
If you would like to
contact Lauren,
please email me, then I'll pass on your message to her.
Peter Stubbs: February
28, 2009 |
UPDATE
I'm pleased to say that
Lauren emailed me today to say:
"I've had a few replies to my
personal e-mail address, from places from Canada to Australia.
It's been such a help."
Lauren Kelly, Edinburgh:
March 2, 2009
|
Recollections
6.
Sharon Shepherd
Dollar,
Clackmannanshire, Scotland |
Thank you
to Sharon Shepherd who wrote: |
Pete Seton Band
"My father, Jimmy Robertson, used to be
2nd Trumpeter in the Pete Seaton band in the late-1950s and 1960s.
He is the one wearing glasses, third trumpeter from the left on the back
row of this photo.
©
I've
also heard that The Pete Seaton band recorded a
music track
Sharon added:
Question
"Does
anybody have any photos of the band?
Your help would be very much appreciated."
Sharon Shepherd, Dollar,
Clackmannanshire, Scotland: March 10, 2009 |
Answer?
If you'd like to reply to
Sharon's question above,
please email me, then I'll pass on your message to her.
Thank
you. - Peter Stubbs |
Recollections
7.
John Wilson
Somerset, England |
Thank you
to John Wilson who wrote: |
Children's Dances
"I remember when I
was very young, the Palais de
Danse used to run a Saturday morning dance for children.
It cost half a crown,
and that included your lunch. You had a
pink ticket when you went in and you tore off
the strip for your lunch.
All this was before
Saturday Cinema. Reading about it on your
site brought back a lot of memories."
Teddy Boys
"When I was older,
I remember going to the Palais and
getting my jacket measured. YES I was a
teddy boy. To think of it now,
I just don't know! A Bright pink jacket with
black trim!
There was a singer who
sung 'O What a Night it Was'.
They were good old days.
Something I couldn't work out was why at
the toilets men just walked in but the
girls had to stand in line."
John Wilson, Somerset England:
March 11, 2009 |
Recollections
8.
Dick Martin
Borders, Scotland |
Thank you to
Dick Martin who referred to John Wilson's memories of
the Palais de Danse.
Dick wrote: |
'Oh What a Night It Was'
"Dick mentions a singer and the song 'Oh What
a Night It Was'. I believe it was Jeff Rowena
(Spelling?) who led the
quartet and also sang. This would be in the mid-1950s.
The song and the manner it was performed
certainly raised both the temperature in the hall and a few heart beats.
Thursday Night
Thursday night was the most popular week night
as it was only 1 shilling & sixpence (7.5 pence)
to get in.
As well as the
music and dancing there was a talent singing contest to entertain
you. I think the prize for the winner was
free entry the following week. What a Prize!! The same half dozen or so
guys entered most weeks."
Dick Martin, Borders,
Scotland: August 27, 2009 |
Recollections
9.
Harry Cadger
|
Thank you to
Harry Cadger who wrote: |
Pete Seaton's Band
"The Obituary for Pete
Seton, who had a band in the Palais, is in tonight's Evening News."
Harry, who played trombone in
this band, added:
"I am sorry I have
no photos of the band but if you get some let me know. I would be most
interested if you hear of any recordings of the band."
Harry Cadger: September 25, 2009 |
Messages for Harry
If you'd like to contact
Harry, please email me, then I'll pass on your message to him.
Thank you.
Peter Stubbs:
September 25, 2009 |
Recollections
10.
Julie Starr
Edinburgh |
Thank you to
Julie Starr who wrote: |
Ricky and the
Sapphires
Ian Paterson
"I have been searching for some time to find
some information about my father who played in a
band at the Palais in the 1960's.
He was a part-time
player. He
had other work during the day.
His band went by the
name of 'Ricky and the Sapphires'.
(His real name was Ian Paterson.)
I believe they cut a few demo records,
but I have never managed to locate any of them.
My uncle
was also in the band.
I was born in 1965, one of three children but
my father was hit by a hit and run incident, I
think in 1971, near the Maybury Casino.
He died a year later at East Fortune Hospital
when I was six years old.
Question
I know very little of my father. I would
love to find out a bit more about him and
don't know where to start.
Any suggestions would be gratefully received.
Julie Starr, Edinburgh: December 6, 2009 |
Messages for
Julie
If
you know anything about Ian Paterson or his band, 'Ricki and the
Sapphires', and would like to contact Julie,
please email me, then I'll pass on your message to Julie.
Thank you.
Peter Stubbs: December 7, 2009 |
Recollections
10.
Reply
1.
(Previously numbered Recollections
11)
Stewart Campbell
|
Thank you to
Stewart Campbell who read Recollections 10 above, and
wrote: |
The Premiers
Ian Paterson
"I knew Ian Paterson when he was playing
in a band called 'The Premiers'. I meet
them in 1964.
I
used to drive them all over the place in my van.
I took them down to Seahouses and to
American Air Bases.
I am
still in touch with Ian Ellis who was the other
singer in the band. if you google his name
you will get a lot of info.
I have
some photos of Ian,
taken at Kirknewton Air Base. He also
played at my wedding, down here in
Boldon Colliery, near
Newcastle, in 1965.
Stewart Campbell: 7 January 2010 |
Recollections
10.
Reply
2.
John Brown
England |
John Brown replied to Julie Starr's question above: |
The Premiers
and
Ricky and the
Sapphires
"I
recently became aware of the question that Julie
Starr asked in her
Recollections 10 (above) in 2009.
I was the drummer in 'The
Premiers' & 'Ricky and
the Sapphires'. I knew Ian Paterson well.
The band traveled to London in the
1960s to make a single, but without success.
I have a photo of the band from that time,
just before we set off for London.
I hope that Julie will get
this message and that I will be able to help her to find out more about
her dad."
Julie Starr: December 6, 2009 |
Messages for
Julie and John
1. I've sent John Brown's message (above) to the email address
that Julie was using when she contacted me in 2009. I hope she is
still using the same email address now.
2. My message (1 above) did get
through successfully to Julie who went on to try to contact John.
However, it now seems that John's 'cloud' email address is no longer
active.
3. So, John - Can
you
please email me to let me know the email address that you are using
now? Then I'll pass it on to Julie. Thank you.
Peter Stubbs: October 18, 2014 (1 above) +
October 26, 2014 (2 + 3 above) |
Recollections
10.
Reply
3.
Julie Starr
Edinburgh |
I was pleased to get an email from Julie Starr,
two days ago, letting me know about the progress she has made in
discovering more about her father, since she wrote her
Recollections 10 above.
Julie wrote: |
The Premiers
and
Ricky and the
Sapphires
"I contacted Palais de Danse back in 1999,
regarding information about my deceased dad who had played in a
band there.
I'm writing to let you know that my dad's
brother was researching his family history and came across the EdinPhoto
website and more importantly my post.
I had not seen my uncle for over
40yrs, but after much searching and getting my email address wrong, he
was about to give up and tried a different format on my email
address...hey presto!
I have just returned, yesterday, from
visiting my dad's two brothers and their family. Both my brother
and I visited them and it was wonderful.
I wanted to thank you very much as without
your help, this would never have happened."
Julie Starr, Edinburgh: 26 February 2016 |
Recollections
11
Stewart Campbell
|
These recollections have now been re-numbered:
10 Reply 1 |
Recollections
12.
Bob Sinclair
Queensland, Australia
|
Thank you to
Bob Sinclair who wrote: |
"Are ye Dancing?"
"Once when I was at the Palais de Danse
- to give it its full title - a young lad of about seventeen at our table
was eyeing up a lassie of about twenty-one.
'Ah'm goin tae ask her
up tae dance', he
announced.
His mate said 'Dinnae
be daft, she's too old fur ye'.
Anyway he went over to where she was sitting with her pals and asked her
if she would like to dance, with the big-time
phrase of 'Are ye dancing?'
'Does yer mother
know yer out?', was
the reply. Talk about embarrassed. Needless to say all her pals were
giggling."
Bob Sinclair, Queensland, Australia,:
January 12, 2010 |
Recollections
13.
Vicki Riley (née
Bollen)
|
Scrap Book
Thank you to Vicki Riley (née Bollen) for
allowing me to reproduce these photos from a scrap book, taken at
the Palais de Danse, Fountainbridge, Edinburgh in 1935. The
scrap book belonged to her father, Tom Bollen, who was leader of
the Orchestra at the Palais for some time.
The Brass
Section
© |
Trumpeter
© |
The Band
© |
The Band + Singers
©
|
|
Tom Bollen
Thank you to Vicki
for sending me some press cuttings, including this one from the
Edinbrugh Evening Dispatch in 1935:
"In past years, the
Palais has been well catered for in the matter of dance bands, and
regular patrons will agree that the management this season have
effected something of a capture.
The combination is Tom
Bollen's London band and they have played not only in London, but
in Canada, and the United States.
Tom Bollen, himself is an
Australian, and is the champion trumpeter of that country.
In addition he has won many championships and tournaments with his
instrument and has been described as the 'Silver Trumpeter'." |
Dancing Sessions
The scrap book also included a few adverts
for the dancing session at the Palais de Danse
and press comments about the Palais.
One 1935 advert referred to two dancing
sessions that day:
- AFTERNOON,
3pm to 5.30pm: Admission 2/- (including tea)
- EVENING, 8pm to
11.30pm: Admission 3/-
Other adverts referred to:
- AFTERNOON,
3pm to 5pm: Admission 1/6 (including tea)
- GRAND SURPRISE
NIGHT, 8pm to 1.30am: Admission 4/-
In
1935 that The Daily Express reported on
the Opening Ball of the season at the Palais. This was Tom
Bollen's debut in Edinburgh. Here is an extract from the
article.
"Opening
night at the Palais isn't just another dance to Edinburgh folks,"
writes my correspondent. "It's an event."
So
bearing that in mind so bearing that in mind some 900 odd
first-nighters made their way inside the newly opened doors of the
Palais last night.
Soft
lights (the Palais has always been noted for its lighting and Tom
(Trumpeter) Bollen greeted them."
Tom Bollen was
still performing at the Palais two years later. The scrap
book above includes a '1937 Season - Admission Ticket' to
the Palais for 'Tom Bollen and his 10 Anglo-Canadians'. |
Vicki Riley (née Bollen): October
8, 2010 |
Recollections
14.
Vicki Riley (née
Bollen)
|
Thank you to Graham Simpson
for replying to Lauren Kelly's request (5 above) for memories of
the Palais at Fountainbridge, owned and managed by Mecca
Entertainment.
Graham wrote: |
Friday
Nights
"Our
crowd from East Pilton (near Bruce Peebles) were regular patrons
of the Palais, particularly on a Friday
night.) Friday nights were important because the Palais was the
best hunting ground for women, so that you could have a date for
Saturday night if you were lucky, reasonably sober and had a good
line.
Drinks
"A
half dozen of us would first go to the Rutland Bar (also
called the Princes Bar) and drink enough liquid courage to chase
skirt although, as reported by another
responder, it was very important to
appear sober.
I see that the other
respondent mentioned drinking inside. When I went there there was
no alcohol served, only soft drinks
but I suppose a few guys would have a
stash somewhere."
Dance
Floor
"The
capacity of the dance floor was reputed to be 2000.
This is probably true since I have never seen a bigger
dance hall in my frequent travels, except
perhaps the Hammersmith Palais in London,
also Mecca.
With that number of
immature young males with high testosterone and ready fists,
selling alcohol inside would have made the Palais more dangerous
than Vimy Ridge.
Indeed there was one in
famous Fountainbridge gang called the Valdar gang who
frequented the Palais but were shunned and feared.
The dance floor was so
big, perhaps 80ft
by 200ft, that it took some nerve to
walk across the empty floor to ask a girl on the other side to
dance and you had to have a Plan B so that if someone beat you to
it, or the girl looked unwelcoming, you had to be pretending to
be looking for someone else, in order to safe face."
Bouncers
"The
bouncers at the front door, called euphemistically 'Assistant
Managers', were all dressed immaculately
in dinner suits and bow ties, but they
were tough and experienced. Only fools
would challenge them.
One of these 'Assistant
Managers' was Sean Connery who lived just down the road. This is
not his real name and I can't remember his last name but his
nickname was 'Big Tam' for Thomas."
Music
"In
terms of music, I think that the best
session band that played there was 'Basil Kirchen" from London. I
believe that also Johnny Dankworth played there a couple of times.
The Palais was a very
important meeting place for young people from all over town.
It had a very modern, upbeat almost American style. It's a
pity that it has ceased to exist and is now replaced with bars and
discos.
The revolving stage was a
particularly interesting feature:
-
on
one half you had a full, swing orchestra for 'Big' music.
-
on the other a quartet or quintet for light jazz and stuff.
I remember a quartet
whose name escapes me but the piano player had a tiny, live dog
always perched on his grand piano.
These were the days!"
|
Graham Simpson, Vancouver, British
Columbia, Canada: February 21, 2011 |
Recollections
15.
David Ford
|
Thank you to David Ford who
wrote: |
1950s
"I remember the
Palais dance hall in the 1950s, where we used to meet twice a
week, with its revolving stage and sprung floor - great for
jiving, when they let you! The resident ballad singer was called Henry
MacBeth
Our alternative venue was
The Locarno Ballroom at Slateford, to dance to the Buddy
Featherstonehaugh Band (Pronounced Fenshaw, I believe).
Sometimes their back-up
band was Cathy and the Kentones. I ended up on a double date with
her once because her pal fancied my pal.
Unfortunately, all she did was
sing for me, but what a lovely woman."
|
David Ford, April 3+6, 2012 |
Recollections
16.
Lex Gordon
New South Wales, Australia |
Thank you to Lex Gordon who
wrote: |
1953-54
"I used to go to the
Palais once a week in
1953-54. I
met my wife there.
Jeff Rowena led a quartet,
playing guitar. He was a tall Gypsy
looking chap, probably early 30ish.
They played turn
about with Basil and Ivor Kirchen.
This was my first social outings.
The Palais was up the street from Regal movie hall and had the
Union Canal Behind and the Rubber mill nearby."
|
Lex Gordon, New South Wales, Australia: April 5, 2012 |
Recollections
17.
James McEwan
Edinburgh |
Thank you to James McEwan
for posting a message in the EdinPhoto guestbook.
James wrote: |
DJs
"I remember
the DJ, Raymond Paul, from Monday nights
at the Palais in the 1960s.
He was an announcer /
newsreader with STV at the time
When Paul was having a
break from proceedings, a guy who I remember from going into
Bandparts, would take over until Paul
resumed his DJ-ing.
This would
have been in late-1964
or early 1965. Does
anyone recall his name?"
James McEwan, Edinburgh:
message posted in EdinPhoto guestbook: April 9, 2012 |
Recollections
18
John Fraser
Inch, Edinburgh |
Thank you
to John Fraser, Edinburgh, for posting a message in the EdinPhoto
guestbook.
John wrote: |
The Palais
1950s
"I frequented the Palais Dance Hall in
the mid-1950s. I was friends with the
bands there:
-
The
Bill Shearer Quartet and
-
George Sumner's Orchestra.
Tommy Milliken played drums and Dick ? played
the base. I was known as Jack for some
reason. Irene Edwards sang with the Orchestra. When I mention these bands
no one seems to remember them"
John Fraser, Inch, Edinburgh: Message
posted in EdinPhoto guestbook: March 27, 2013 |
Recollections
19
June
Robertson (née
Wood)
California, USA |
June
Robertson Wood replied to John Fraser's message (in Recollections 18) by
posting this message in the EdinPhoto guestbook.
|
Sarah (Sadie) Nisbet
"Hi John:
I also went to the
Palais in the 1950s, but I
don't remember the bands
that you mention.
-
The Kirchen
and
- Jeff
Rowena
were the ones playing back then.
The Palais was a great place to go.
Do you remember Jean who wore a short tux.
She was the hostess. Those were the
days!"
June Robertson Wood, California, USA:
Reply posted in EdinPhoto guestbook on March 27, 2013
in response to a message posted in the guestbook the same day by John
Fraser. |
Recollections
20
John Fraser
Inch, Edinburgh |
Thank you
to John Fraser who wrote:
|
Entertainers
"No one seems
to remember the Bill Shearer Quartet, or George
Sumner's Orchestra and the singer Irene Edwards.
I was friends with them all.
Maybe somebody will
recognize these names to prove I didn’t
just dream about them
for about two years. This was in the
period 1955-57. I never went back to the
Palais after I came out of the R.A.F. IN 1959."
John Fraser, Inch, Edinburgh: Message
posted in EdinPhoto guestbook: March 31, 2013 |
Recollections
21.
Jack Hawthorne
Crossgar, Co.
Down, Northern Ireland |
Jack Hawthorne
wrote: |
Dance Floors
"Recently, I was derided on
a radio programme when I commented on a dance floor being specially made
and incorporating tennis balls for more spring between the concrete base
and the wooden dance floor. But
I was told that this was not possible, due to cost alone."
Question
"Can anybody confirm that
the dance floor of The Palais in Edinburgh did, indeed have such a floor?"
Jack Hawthorne,
Crossgar, Co.
Down, Northern Ireland: September 26, 2014
(2 emails) |
Reply to Jack Hawthorne?
If you can answer he question that Jack asks above,
please email me to let me know, then I'll pass his email address to
you, then you can try sending your message direct to him.
Thank
you.
Peter Stubbs, Edinburgh: September
27, 2014 |
Recollections
22.
Hank Kaczynski
Annapolis, Maryland, USA
|
Thank you to
Hack Kaczynski
wrote: |
Dance Floors
"I found a couple of items on sprung
dance floors in England. The tennis balls were cut in half.
The balls and air gaps provided the bounce feeling.
I found nothing about the
floor of the Palais De Danse in Edinburgh"
Hank Kaczynski,
Annapolis, Maryland, USA:
September 29, 2014 |
Recollections
23.
Jack Hawthorne
Crossgar, Co.
Down, Northern Ireland |
Thank you to
Jack Hawthorne for writing again having discovered more about the 'tennis
ball floors' in dance halls.
The answer sent by Jack matches Hank Kaczynski's
Recollections 22 above, but it was sent
to me before I had chance to add Hank's Recollections 22 to the web site.
Jack wrote: |
Dance Floors
"This
is just to let you know someone
has phoned in that radio
show, explaining how the floors were laid with
tennis balls.
The balls were cut in half and laid flat on
the concrete ,and then the maple floor was laid.
This had the effect of the balls sitting flat on
the concrete, and also the number of
balls needed was halved.
This subject generated
quite a bit of interest on the radio show. A few
old dance hall owners phoned in stating
how they made their floors slippy, by
sprinkling talcum powder on the floor.
Success to your forum!"
Jack Hawthorne,
Crossgar, Co.
Down, Northern Ireland: September
30, 2014 |
Recollections
24.
Mike Cassidy
|
Thank you to
Mike Cassidy who wrote: |
Manfred Mann at The Palais -
1964
"Here is a
British Pathé
film
clip showing Manfred Mann and his group entering 'The Palais' in 1964.
There's even a guy in a
kilt!"
Mike Cassidy: November 27, 2014 |
Recollections
25.
Marcin Walczac
Edinburgh
|
Thank you to
Marcin Walczac who wrote: |
Video of The
Palais
"I arrived in Edinburgh from Poland about 9
years ago, and currently I live in Edinburgh.
Over the course of last few years I graduated from Queen Margaret
University making few short documentaries while studying.
About 2.5 years ago,
I co-funded video production company: Smart Film Production, and
have been co-producing numerous videos since
then. I am particularly interested in
documentaries and therefore Palais de Danse appears to be perfect topic
for the next project.
I am researching this subject with the
Edinburgh-based writer Laura Hird.
The Palais appears to
have been a very popular place from the
1930's to the 1960's. However,
I've not found much information
about it on the Internet, and
I've not found find any films being made about it."
Request
"I read on
the EdinPhoto website that there was a student
of Napier University researching
the possibility of making documentary about
Palais de Danse, but I've not
found any outcomes of that research.
Does anybody have
access to any audio-visual files, any photographs, or texts on this
particular place?
Do you know of any people
who would have met their future husband,
or wife at the Palais de Danse?
I am particularly interested in couples whose relationships
began on the dance floor of this historic site.
Marcin
Walczak, Edinburgh: 13 November 2015 (2 emails) |
Reply to Mercin?
If you'd like to send a reply to any of the
questions above please let me know, then I'll pass on Mercin's email
address to you.
Thank you:
Peter Stubbs, Edinburgh: 14 November 2015 |
Recollections
26.
Bill Hay |
Thank you to
Bill Hay who wrote |
The Big Bands
"I was a musician in the big
bands at the Palais for a time, and am happy to pass on a few memories.
That would be good, Bill. I
look forward to reading anything that you send to me, and adding it to
this page.
Peter Stubbs, 23 Jan 2016.
|
The Revolving Stage
"I understand the floor
at The Palais is still in place, so have
a look! I'm also
interested in the revolving band stand.
As a musician, I helped
the man turning the handle in the cage to get it going. Was
it really powered by hand or did a motor cut in?"
Bill Hay: 23 January 2016 (2 emails) |
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