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Horse-drawn Trams

From early-1870s

 

Question

Scott Simpson

Kanata, Ontario, Canada, wrote:

Scott Simpson wrote:

1870s

Photograph in Council Offices

"I am searching for a photo that I know was once in Edinburgh Council Offices.  My grandfather, who is now aged 95, saw it when he visited Scotland many years ago.  Unfortunately, my attempts to contact the council offices to enquire about this photo have gone unanswered."

Eight Trams

"The picture that I'm looking for is of my great great grandfather, who was a councillor, and his family standing alongside a tram that was named after him.  I believe the photo was probably taken in the early-1870s.

There were eight trams at the time.  Each one was named after a town councillor.  My great great grandfather's name was 'Summers' or 'Sommers'.

Scott Simpson, Kanata, Ontario, Canada:  April 25 + 27, 2010

Reply to Scott

If you know anything about this photo, please email me, then I'll pass on your message to Scott.    Thank you.

Peter Stubbs:  May 1, 2010

 

Reply

Neil Mackenzie

Edinburgh

Thank you to Ian Mackenzie who replied:

1871

"It seemed to me that if we are even in the right City, the event must  have been the opening of the  tramways in 1871, at which date it is  recorded that 10 trams were available, not 8. Soon afterwards, of  course, the number of trams rose steadily and there would be no urge  to name them all after Bailies or Councillors.

I therefore visited the Edinburgh Room unproductively, then then  emailed them to see if they had a record  relevant to Mr Summers/ Sommers.  This is their reply

' I have checked our list of Bailies for Edinburgh Town Council for 1871.  At that time there was a Lord Provost, the Right Hon. William Law, and 6 Bailies: William Skinner, Peter Miller, David Lewis, George Cousin, James Marshall and Peter Howden. 

There were 31 councillors, none of whom was called Summers or Sommers, although there was a Robert Somerville

Checking the Edinburgh and Leith Post Office directories for 1871 and 1872 there was an Adam Summers  who lived at 11 Melbourne Place, and whose business was Summers & McIntyre, corset and bandage makers, at 6 and 7 North Bank Street.

There was also a John Summers, baker and confectioner, at 133 Princes Street.  However, neither of these individuals was a councillor.

There are three Robert Somerville's listed in the 1871 Post Office directory:

-   Robert Somerville, stationer and librarian, 10 Spring Gardens, house 1 Claremont Place

-  Robert Somerville, 27 Montague Street

-  Robert Somerville, market officer, cattle market.

I'm not sure which of these was the councillor.'

It seems to me that  it was unlikely that Mr Summers / Sommers had a  tram named after him if he was not a Councillor or Bailie.  I think we need more information."

Neil Mackenzie, Edinburgh  May 12, 2010

Neil Mackenzie was formerly an executive with Lothian Region Transport

 

1890s

Princes Street  -  Looking to the east at Waverley  -  Horse Tram

Princes Street

1890s

 

Tramwayman's Shelter

Strathearn Place, Greenhill, Edinburgh

    Old shelter for the horse-drawn tramway at Strathearn Place, Edinburgh

Looking west  to the Shelter

    Old shelter for the horse-drawn tramway at Strathearn Place, Edinburgh

Looking south to the Shelter

 

 

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EdinPhoto - Home Page  Please send me an e-mail ...  with your questions, comments, suggestions or news.   At any time, you can search for a word  -  perhaps a photographer's name or a photographic topic.  The search will produce a list of pages on the EdinPhoto web site where this word appears.     At any time, you can search for a word  -  perhaps a photographer's name or a photographic topic.  The search will produce a list of pages on the EdinPhoto web site where this word appears.  

Photographs and Other Images  -  These include portraits of photographers  -  photographic outings -  Princes Street views  -  Newhaven Fishwives  -  etc.  Early Photography in Edinburgh  -  Talbot, Brewster, Hill & Adamson, Early Professional Photographers in Princes Street, etc.  Professional Photographers in Edinburgh  -  1840 to 1940  -  Their names, dates of business and studio addresses.  The Photographic Society of Scotland  -  1856 to 1873  -  Lectures, Exhibitions, Outings, etc.  The History of Edinburgh Photographic Society  -  1861 to date  -  Lectures, Exhibitions, Outings, Poems, etc.  EPS Publications - EPS Handwritten Records  -  Photographic Journals  -  Trade Directories  -  Books  -  etc.  Thanks to all who have encouraged and supported me in creating the EdinPhoto web site  -  including descendants of photographers  -  researchers  -  providers of photographs and other material  Background notes on the research thal led up to the creation of this site  -   together with lists of new material added to the site since its launch.  Brief comments on how this site might be used  -  Just browsing?  -  Seeking specific information?  Please add your questions, suggestions or other comments to the Guest Book.  Links to other web sites  -  Photographic Societies  -  Photographic History  -  Family History  -  etc.  Click here to find the link to the Edinburgh Photogrpahic Society web site.

 

A selection of my photographs, many from Edinburgh throughout the year.   Also photos from Scotland, London, Iceland, Italy, Hong Kong and elsewhere    Many old maps of Edinburgh (Old Town, New Town, while City), Leith and Newhaven.  Includes several old transport maps and a comparison of old maps with recent aerial photos.   Old engravings, mailly of Edinburgh scenes.  Some from the 1820s, some from the 1890s,  some others - includes many hand-coloured examples from the 1820s.   News from Edinburgh today  -  Events, Collections, Buildings and Gardens, Transport   This site includes     1. Post card portraits taken in studios in Edinburgh:    2. Post card views either takeen/published by Ediburgh photographers or views of Edinburgh, or both.y Edinburgh    Views of Edinburgh, grouped into three sections:     1. Street views:    2. Buildings:    3. Around Edinburgh   Views of transport around Edinburgh  -  Horse drawn trams and buses, cable cars, electric trams, buses and a few railway photos.  Also several maps of Edinburgh's bus and tram routes.   Links to pages with Photos of Groups   Frequently Asked Questions

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