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The Forth Bridge

North Queensferry

July 2014

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The Forth Bridge towers above the houses in Main Street, North Queensferry

The Forth Bridge towering above the Houses  -  North Queensferry

  Peter Stubbs  -   please contact peter.stubbs@edinphoto.org.uk                                                                 Photo taken:  July 31 2014

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Forth Sea Safaris' boat 'Vigil'  +   Lighthouse by the Harbour  +  Forth Bridge

This lighthouse on Queensferry Town Pier was built in 1817 by Robert Stevenson, was fully restored in 2010, with
a replica of Stevenson' original oil lamp.  It is the world's smallest working light tower.  See here for opening times.

The boat 'Vigil', in the yard in front of the lighthouse, is owned by Forth Sea Safaris.  Here is their web site

Boat, Lighthouse and Forth Bridge - North Queensferry

  Peter Stubbs  -   please contact peter.stubbs@edinphoto.org.uk                                                                 Photo taken:  July 31 2014

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The Albert Hotel, North Queensferry

This photo was taken from Main Street, which continues, to the right of Albert Hotel, for a short distance
to Town Pier and the harbour.  The road to the left is Battery Road, leading to the Forth Rail Bridge.

The Forth Bridge and Albert Hotel  -  North Queensferry

  Peter Stubbs  -   please contact peter.stubbs@edinphoto.org.uk                                                                 Photo taken:  July 31 2014

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Rocks and Floodlights beneath the northern end of the Forth Bridge

The Forth Bridge and Floodlightsl  -  North Queensferry

  Peter Stubbs  -   please contact peter.stubbs@edinphoto.org.uk                                                                 Photo taken:  July 31 2014

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Battery Road, North Queensferry

Leading to the Forth Bridge and the memorial to the men who died building the bridge.

Road to the Forth Bridge -  North Queensferry

  Peter Stubbs  -   please contact peter.stubbs@edinphoto.org.uk                                                                 Photo taken:  July 31 2014

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Flag beneath the Forth Bridge

This flag is in a private garden.  What is known about this flag? 

It seems to represent Scotland, Wales, Ireland, Isle of Man - and where else?

See Replies below

The Forth Bridge and Flag  -  North Queensferry

  Peter Stubbs  -   please contact peter.stubbs@edinphoto.org.uk                                                                 Photo taken:  July 31 2014

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7.

Flag beneath the Forth Bridge

That flag again!  The flag is in a private garden.  What is known about this flag?
It seems to represent Scotland, Wales, Ireland, Isle of Man - and where else?

See Replies below

The Forth Bridge and Flag  -  North Queensferry

  Peter Stubbs  -   please contact peter.stubbs@edinphoto.org.uk                                                                 Photo taken:  July 31 2014

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8.

Forth Bridge Lift

This lift, leading to the top of the Northern Cantilever is a recent addition
to the bridge, installed during the recent restoration of the bridge.

It looks more impressive in the larger photo!

The Forth Bridge and Lift to the top of the North Cantilever  -  North Queensferry

  please contact peter.stubbs@edinphoto.org.uk                      Photo taken:  July 31 2014

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9.

Forth Bridge  +  Memorial Stone

This is one of two memorial stones commemorating the men who died
during the building of the Forth Bridge.  The other is at South Queensferry.

The project to find the names of the men who died was carried out by Queensferry History Group.

The Forth Bridge and Memorial to those who died building the bridge  -  North Queensferry

  please contact peter.stubbs@edinphoto.org.uk                      Photo taken:  July 31 2014

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Front of the Memorial Stone

Please see the medium size picture or large picture
in order to read the names on this memorial stone.

Back of the Memorial to those who died building the bridge  -  North Queensferry

  please contact peter.stubbs@edinphoto.org.uk
Photo taken:  July 31 2014

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11.

Back of the Memorial Stone

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in order to read the names on this memorial stone.

Back of the Memorial to those who died building the bridge  -  North Queensferry

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Photo taken:  July 31 2014

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12.

Tour Bus at Battery Road

The Tour Bus runs regularly from central Edinburgh to South Queensferry and North Queensferry at times corresponding
 to the arrivals and departures of the Forth Belle Ferry - in this case, the 4.30 departure from North Queensferry.

Tour Bus and Forth Bridge  -  North Queensferry

  Peter Stubbs  -   please contact peter.stubbs@edinphoto.org.uk                                                                 Photo taken:  July 31 2014

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Tour Bus at Battery Road

Forth bridge on the left (and painted on the bus):  Forth Road Bridge (southern end) on the right.

Tour Bus, Forth Bridge and Forth Road Bridge -  North Queensferry

  Peter Stubbs  -   please contact peter.stubbs@edinphoto.org.uk                                                                 Photo taken:  July 31 2014

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Cruise Liner, 'Ruby Princess' moored close to the Forth Bridge

The structure behind the liner is one of the jetties for Hound Point oil-export terminal in the Firth of Forth, Dalmeny
The hill in the background on the left of the photo is North Berwick Law, East Lothian, about 35 miles to the east.

Cruise Liner 'Ruby Princess' moored near the Forth Bridge  -  North QUeensferry

  Peter Stubbs  -   please contact peter.stubbs@edinphoto.org.uk                                                                 Photo taken:  July 31 2014

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Cruise Liner, 'Ruby Princess' moored close to the Forth Bridge

'Ruby Princess' is owned by Princess Cruises.  Built 2008, Capacity 3,080 passengers. See this Wiki page
On the left are two of the tenders used to ferry passengers between the liner and South Queensferry

Cruise Liner 'Ruby Princess' moored near the Forth Bridge  -  North QUeensferry

  Peter Stubbs  -   please contact peter.stubbs@edinphoto.org.uk                                                                  Photo taken:  June 13, 2014

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16.

The liner 'Black Watch' passes under the Forth Bridge

''Black Watch' is owned by Fred Olsen Cruise Line: built 1972, capacity 758 passengers.  See this Wiki page.
Here, the liner is passing under the Forth Bridge, to berth at Rosyth, on the north shore of the Firth of Forth.

Crruise Liner, 'Black Watch' passes under the Forth Bridge on her way to dock at Rosyth

  Peter Stubbs  -   please contact peter.stubbs@edinphoto.org.uk                                                                 Photo taken:  July 31 2014

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The liner 'Black Watch' passes under the Forth Bridge

Here we zoom-in on the liner in Photo 16 above

Zoom in on a photo of Crruise Liner, 'Black Watch' passing under the Forth Bridge on her way to dock at Rosyth

  Peter Stubbs  -   please contact peter.stubbs@edinphoto.org.uk                                                                 Photo taken:  July 31 2014

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Tug and Cargo Ship pass under the Forth Bridge

The tug, 'Strathdon' passes under the Forth Bridge and heads upstream.
Container ship 'Charon J' heads downstream from Grangemouth to Rotterdam, its regular Thursday afternoon sailing.

The tug, 'Strathdon' passes under the Forth Bridge, heading upstream, whilst the container ship 'Charon J' passes under the bridge in the opposite direction en route from Grangemouth to Rotterdam

  Peter Stubbs  -   please contact peter.stubbs@edinphoto.org.uk                                                                 Photo taken:  July 31 2014

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Laurie Thompson

Chipping Sodbury, Gloucestershire, England

Thank you to Laurie Thompson who wrote:

The Flag

"I think that part of the flag - the section with the white cross on the black ground - represents Kernow (Cornwall)."

Laurie Thompson, Chipping Sodbury, Gloucestershire, England:  August 12, 2014

Thanks Laurie.   

Agreed.  That looks like the flag of Cornwall.  It is attributed to Saint Piran, a 6th Century Cornish abbot.  This wiki page gives more details.

Peter stubbs, Edinburgh:  August 14, 2014

 

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Peter Stubbs

Edinburgh

The Flag

    The Forth Bridge and Flag  -  North Queensferry

"There is now just one part of this flag still to be identified.  It's the part at the top nearest the flag pole, with the black and white stripes and black symbols in the corner.

I went back to North Queensferry today to try to get a better photo of that part of the flag, but there wasn't much wind around, so this is the best image that I was able to get of it."

Corner of a flag flying from a flagpole below the Forth Bridge at North Queensferry.  Is this corner of the flag the 'Flag of Brittany'?

  Peter Stubbs  -    peter.stubbs@edinphoto.org.uk            Photo taken:  August 15, 2014

Flag of Brittany?

"This flag looks similar to the Flag of Brittany that appears on this Wikipedia web page, but the symbols in the top corner nearest to the flag pole are different.

However, the Wikipedia page says:

'The design of the ermine spots can vary, but the version most frequently seen is shown above.'' *

* i.e. shown on the Wikipedia web page

so it is still possible that the flag on the pole at North Queensferry includes the Flag of Brittany."

Peter Stubbs, Edinburgh:  August 15, 2014

 

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3.

Laurie Thompson

Chipping Sodbury, Gloucestershire, England

Thank you to Laurie Thompson for writing again.

Laurie wrote:

The Flag

     The Forth Bridge and Flag  -  North Queensferry

Combined Flag of the Celtic Nations

"I went back to the wiki page that you gave at the end of my 'Reply 1' (above).  Lo and behold, right at the bottom of the page there's a 'Pan Celtic' flag which is similar (but not identical!) to the Queensferry one, together with details of its component parts.  Take your pick!

Laurie Thompson, Chipping Sodbury, Gloucestershire, England:  August 16, 2014

Thanks again Laurie.    I'm glad you scrolled to the end of that wiki page and found the thumbnail image of the 'Pan Celtic' flag.   Here is a link to the page that you get if you click on the thumbnail image of the Pan-Celtic Flag.:

As you say, that flag is not identical to the one at North Queensferry, so it looks as if there may have been several varieties of 'Pan-Celtic' flag.

Differences

Wikipedia refers to the component parts of its flag as having been taken or adapted from the flags of Brittany, Cornwall, Ireland, Scotland, Isle of Man and Galicia (Spain).  The Galician flag has a light blue diagonal line on a white background, but is not featured in the North Queensferry flag.

Similarities

However there are many similarities between the Pan-Celtic Flag on Wikipedia and the one at North Queensferry, including the three 'white on black' spirals in the centre of both flags.

Wikipedia describes this as the Triskelion symbol, constructed from mathematical Archimedian spirals.

Peter stubbs, Edinburgh:  August 16, 2014

 

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4.

Peter Stubbs

Edinburgh

Summary

'Pan-Celtic' Flags

"Photo A below is a close-up of the North Queensferry flag.

Photo B below is a 'Pan-Celtic' flag taken from Wikipedia.

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A

The Flag at North Queensferry

'Pan-Celtic' Flag based on the flags of 6 Celtic Nations - beneath the Forth Bridge at North Queensferry

   peter.stubbs@edinphoto.org.uk                                         Photo taken:  July 31, 2014

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B

The Flag on Wikipedia

'Pan-Celtic' Flag based on the flags of 7 Celtic Nations - taken from Wikipedia

   Reproduced with acknowledgement to the Wikipedia Saint Piran's Flag web page   and the Wikipedia' Pan-Celtic Flags web page.  This image It may be reproduced subject to the conditions of the Creative Commons Attribution-Share Alike license.

 

Conclusions

It now seems clear that:

(1)  The flag in Photo A is a 'Pan-Celtic' flag, based on the flags of  6 Celtic nations - Scotland, Isle of Man, Brittany, Wales, Cornwall and Ireland.

(2) There are also other 'Pan-Celtic' flags that are similar to A.  Photo B shows one of them.  It is  based on the flags of 7 Celtic  nations,  the 6 above + Galicia (Spain).

(3)  The 'Pan-Celtic' flags in both A and B above have at their centre a symbol constructed from spirals.

This CRW flags web page describes this symbol as a 'spiral triskele', a very ancient Celtic design, one of the most frequently found symbols at ancient sites inhabited by Celtic people."

Peter Stubbs, Edinburgh:  August 16, 2014

 

 

 

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