Buildings Around Edinburgh
Middleton House
Near Borthwick Castle.
About 14 miles SE of Edinburgh. |
Middleton House
postcard posted 1961
©
Reproduced with acknowledgement to
Phil Wilson, Aberdeen.
Postcard: publisher and photographer unknown
Middleton House
Recollections and News |
1. |
Phil Wilson
Aberdeen, Scotland
|
1961 |
2. |
John Gray
Stenhouse,
Edinburgh
|
Early-1960s |
3. |
Alex Jackson
Mortonhall, Edinburgh
|
Postcards |
4. |
John Cassidy
Glasgow, Scotland
|
1971 |
5. |
Phil Wilson
Aberdeen, Scotland
|
Middleton House 'For Sale' |
6. |
Susan McCaig
Gorebridge, Midlothian, Scotland
|
Grandfather - Head Gardener
Mum + Aunt
Recent Visit |
7. |
Jim Patience
Alberta, Canada
|
1948/49 |
8. |
David Procter
Cape
Breton, Nova Scotia, Canada
|
1974 |
9. |
Frank Ferri
Newhaven,
Edinburgh
|
c.1945/46
- 3 months |
10. |
Frank Ferri
Newhaven,
Edinburgh
|
Night
Morning
Saturday
Recreation Rooms
Grounds
School Camps |
11. |
Tom Traynor
London
|
Evacuees |
12. |
Robert Fender
England |
Evacuees |
13. |
Frank Ferri
Newhaven,
Edinburgh
|
Late-1940s
- Homes for Children
- House Master
- Matron Nurse
- Saturday Mornings
- Recreation Hut
- Fowl Farm
- Middleton House
- Lake
- Last Day
- School
- The Grounds |
14. |
Alex Easton
|
1939-41
- Teachers
- Frogs
|
15. |
Chris Topp
|
1960
- Youth Clubs
- Food
|
16. |
Dennis Walkingshaw
Livingston Village West Lothian, Scotland
|
Middleton House Postcards
- The Photographer
|
17. |
Rob Brennan
|
Bob Brennan
- From Scotland
- Middleton Camp
- Dryburgh Brewery |
18. |
Gordon Davie
Abbeyhill
|
1968 Camp
- Homesick
- Talent Show
|
19. |
Frank Ferri
Newhaven, Edinburgh
|
Middleton House
- What is on the site
Today? |
19.
Reply 1. |
Donald Grant
Penicuik, Midlothian, Scotland
|
Middleton House and Camp
- What is on the site
Today? |
19.
Reply 2. |
Forbes Wilson
near Guildford, Surrey, England
|
Location of Middleton Camp
- What is on the site
Today? |
19.
Reply 3. |
Forbes Wilson
near Guildford, Surrey, England
|
Location of Middleton Camp
- Aerial Views Today |
19.
Reply 4. |
Frank Ferri
Newhaven,
Edinburgh
|
Middleton Camp
- Sad it's now gone
- Searching for the camp
- Memories of the entrance
- The entrance today
- Artificial lake |
20. |
Peter Scott
Vienna, Austria
|
Middleton Camp
- Our Welcome
- Moving on
- Our Return Visit to Middleton |
Recollections
1.
Phil Wilson
Aberdeen, Scotland |
Thank you to Phil Wilson,
Aberdeen, Scotland, for providing the picture above, taken from a postcard
that he posted from Middleton in 1961.
Many school camps were held at
Middleton House, about 12 miles SE of Edinburgh. The postcard above
refers to Middleton House as being the property of the School Camps
Association.
Phil wrote: |
1961
"Here is a card that I sent from Middleton,
where my grandparents had a country cottage retreat, just outside the Camp
grounds, in 1961.
Now that the land is in private hands again, I guess
that public access is more restricted.
My Dad, brother and I used to go to a particular
pond on the river there to fish occasionally, and we used to see rabbits
on the lawn outside the House, and bats at night.
Despite the amateurish looking appearance of the
card I think it would probably have been sold in the local shop, which
used to stand on the old road at Middleton crossroads. I think there used
to be a PO next door, from where I would have sent it.
I believe it's an international conference location
now. At least it was the last time I was near it."
Phil Wilson, Aberdeen, Scotland: May 21, 2006. |
Recollections
2.
John Gray
Stenhouse, Edinburgh |
Thank you to John Gray who
wrote:
|
Early-1960s
"I remember Middleton Camp circa
early-'sixties.
We
went from Brunstane Primary School. I guess i was about ten at the
time. We stayed for three days and two night and slept in army-style
bunk beds.
In
the daytime, I remember us playing war games against other schools.
This, of course, would not be allowed in today's lily- livered society, in
case someone got a skint knee and sued the school !!.
Anyway,
I vividly remember, after being captured by the 'enemy', being made to eat
a cream cracker with soap spread on it. I can still taste it as i
write this !!"
John Gray, Stenhouse, Edinburgh: June 16, 2007 |
Recollections
3.
Alex Jackson
Mortonhall,
Edinburgh |
Thank you to Alex Jackson,
Edinburgh, for sending these recollections of school camps at
Middleton.
Alex wrote:
|
Postcards
"Here are 3 Valentine postcards of Middleton Camp.
©
©
©
I remember the war games that John speaks of,
and can recall being told in the Assembly Hall that the Queen had given
birth to a boy to be called Andrew.
The cards have February 1960 written on the
back of them and tie in with the Duke of York's birth."
Alex Jackson, Mortonhall, Edinburgh: June 24, 2007 |
The same cards were presumably
sold to the campers for several years. The numbers on the cards
indicate that the photographs were, in fact, taken in 1951 and 1952.
- Peter Stubbs; June 27, 2007 |
Alex continued
"The 'X' marked on the 3rd card would have
been my mother marking the dorm that I stayed in. I would have been there
in my last year at Abbeyhill Primary School.
There must have been many children from
Edinburgh primary schools who would have stayed at Middleton Camp in the
'50s and '60s."
Alex Jackson, Mortonhall, Edinburgh: June 24, 2007 |
Recollections
4.
John Cassidy
Glasgow, Scotland |
Thank you to John Cassidy,
Glasgow, for leaving this message in the EdinPhoto guestbook.
John wrote:
|
1971
"Thanks for sharing the photos of the
residential school. I was at the Gorebridge Residential School
in 1971 for 3 weeks with other schools.
I had a great time. I also remember the wasps
all over the place and the visits to the lily pond.
I often wonder if the school is still there."
John Cassidy, Glasgow, Scotland: April 15, 2008 |
Recollections
5.
Phil Wilson
Aberdeen, Scotland |
Thank you to Phil Wilson for
letting me know that Middleton House (re-named Middleton Hall) is now
up for sale.
Phil Wilson,
Aberdeen, Scotland: June 8, 2008 |
Middleton House 'For Sale'
Here is how the property is
described:
Middleton Hall, Middleton, EH23 4RD
Offers Over Ł3,250,000
A quite outstanding
residential estate in a superb parkland setting just 14 miles from
the centre of Edinburgh.
Magnificent, fully
restored, 18th century grade 'A' listed mansion house
Galleried reception
hall/drawing room, dining room, family sitting room, music room,
library, billiard room, kitchen/breakfast room, principal bedroom
suite with sitting room, dressing room and bathroom, five further en
suite bedrooms, office/store rooms
Attic playrooms
One bedroom self
contained flat
Storage
Partially converted
separate stable block with stabling for 15 horses and stallion and
foaling boxes
Fully refurbished three
bedroom north lodge
Grade 'C' listed South
Lodge and keeper's cottage to be restored
Sweeping lawns and
Victorian pond
Former walled kitchen
garden
Parkland policies with
broadleaved trees and mixed woodland, all within a walled boundary
Approx. 113 acres (45.73
hectares) in all |
|
Recollections
6.
Susan McCaig
Gorebridge, Midlothian, Scotland |
Thank you to Susan McCaig who
wrote:
|
Grandfather - Head Gardener
"I've just
been just looking at your postcards of Middleton Camp. I
thought I'd take the time to write and say, my grandfather, Mr Duncan, was
the head gardener and caretaker of the camp until i think around the very
late-1960's." |
Mum + Aunt
"My
mum
was just a child and grew up there but my aunt who was 11 years older was
a nurse there, caring for the kids and my great aunt was one of the cooks,
( She was deaf and wore one of those hearing aids with the big box on the
front and a big wire going into her ear)." |
Recent Visit
"I used to
love
listening to the stories they all told, it sounded like a great place.
Sadly we visited there a few months ago, to scatter my aunts ashes.
It was her wish and the new owners gave us permission.
it's
still a beautiful
place. There are none of the dorms there now but the pond is still
there." |
Susan McCaig,
Gorebridge, Midlothian, Scotland:
July 19, 2008 |
Recollections
7.
Jim Patience
Alberta, Canada |
Jim Patience wrote:
|
1948/49
"I
was at Middleton House in 1948 or 1949, memory is getting short.
I met
my first love there. Her name was Iris Moffat. I was 11 and
she was 10.
If I
remember rightly it wasn't far from Borthwick Castle."
Jim Patience
Alberta, July 26, 2008 |
Recollections
8.
David Procter
Cape
Breton, Nova Scotia, Canada |
David Procter wrote:
|
1974
"I
remember staying at Middleton Camp in 1974, for 4 weeks. I was a
student at Lanark Primary School at the time.
I have
fond memories of the bunkhouse and the fact that boys were very firmly
separated from the girls. I also remember singing 'The Black Hills of
Dakota', very badly!!"
David Procter: August 28, 2008 |
Recollections
9.
Frank Ferri
Newhaven,
Edinburgh |
Frank Ferri wrote:
|
Around 1945/46 - 3 months
"I
stayed at Middleton Camp with my young brother for about 3 months circa
1945/46. Father was at sea and mother was unwell, so we were
resident and attended school there.
The
camp Matron was a horror we were all terrified of her. She
skelped us hard.
We
used to go to the man-made pond with the wee island in the middle near the
big manor house, Middleton House, to catch newts. They had their own
chicken/duck farm then"
Frank Ferri, Newhaven, Edinburgh: October 21, 2008 |
Recollections
10.
Frank Ferri
Newhaven,
Edinburgh |
Frank Ferri added more
memories of being a long-term resident at Middleton Camp.
Frank wrote:
|
Night
"Long
term residents at Middleton Camp, such as those in temporary care due to
home problems, attended school there. Each dormitory was supervised at
night by at teacher who had quarters in a small room at the entrance of
the dormitory.
We
slept in two-tier bunks. Lo and behold anyone who spoke after lights
out. The teachers were severe about that. They still used the
strap for punishment in those days." |
Morning
"In
the morning you were to march down to a communal wash room, then to the
dinning room for breakfast.
I
remember on one occasion in the wash room, my wee brother (only aged 6)
was getting major grief from the matron who was shouting and hitting him
on the legs which were sore and saying your legs are ingrained with dirt.
(I knew this not to be true because, in the summer month we would paddle
in the pond, not drying our legs with the result the skin became cracked
developing Hawks (spelling?),
a very sore condition.
Despite my terror of this woman, I ran up to her shouting, leave him
alone, it's not dirt, it's Hawks. At that point I thought my world
would cave in. However for some reason she stopped her abuse and
that was
that." |
Saturday
"Saturday
was Assembly Day. You gathered in the big communal hall. They
would shout out your name, gave you some money for the Tuck Shop and asked
if you wished to go home for the day. This could only happen if you
had money which they kept and allocated to you, I assume this was left by
relatives who visited from time to time.
If you had
the funds, they gave you enough for return bus fare into the city. I
was only 11 years old but used to do this journey from Gorebridge. I'd
visit my old Italian granny who lived in Montgomery Street and was always
good for a bit pocket money. |
Recreation Room
"The camp
had a small recreation room for reading, playing board games or writing
letters, which were censored. Being a wee fly man, to avoid
censorship, I'd write a letter home, take to the kitchen and ask a member
of staff to post it for me. I never knew if it was posted or not -
a bit like Stalag 17, if you like." |
Grounds
"The
positive side was, in your free time, you pretty much had the run of the
camp's massive grounds with woods and the pond to play in, or collect
eggs
from their poultry farm." |
School Camps
"City
schools used the camp plus another at Broomlee for two weeks during the
school holidays. I think life was a bit easier for them. The big
manse was also used for camps during the school holidays."
Things
could
be tough in them old days." |
Frank Ferri, Newhaven, Edinburgh: October 23, 2008 |
Recollections
11.
Tom Traynor
London,
England |
Tom Traynor wrote:
|
Evacuees
"I
was an evacuee in Middleton House during World War 2.
My
sister and brother were placed in Middleton Camp. This was a
collection of huts put up in the grounds.
Tom Traynor, London, England: Message posted in
EdinPhoto guest book, May 15, 2010 |
Recollections
12.
Robert Fender
London,
England |
Robert Fender wrote:
|
1949
"The comments above on Middleton Camp took me back over fifty years to
the time I spent there
in 1949. I can't remember exactly how long I was there, but it would
have been about a week to a fortnight."
Rugby Match
©
"This
photo was taken when we had a 7-a-side match against some of the teachers
who were there. All the lads in the picture were from Leith Academy.
(That's our rugby strips we are wearing.)
I'm
the one who is looking away from the camera. Too many years have past to
remember much about who else was in the picture, but I do remember one of
the boys, Ian Ramsey. He's next to me on the right as you look at
the photo. One of the teachers, I believe, is Mr. Maitland
from our school. He's is the one on the far right."
Robert Fender, England: August 3, 2011 |
Recollections
13.
Frank Ferri
Newhaven,
Edinburgh |
Frank Ferri wrote:
|
Late-1940s
Homes for Children
"In
the late-1940s, Middleton Camp was not only used as an inexpensive venue
for school children to have a holiday. It was also a facility, as
was the adjacent Middleton House, to temporarily locate children with
problems at home, such as parental ill health, bad housing or dire poverty
My
brother 5 years my junior and I were separated from our parents for quite
some time, (father being away at sea) when I was about aged 10 years of
age. Due to some family drama, which I was never able to rationalise.
We
were sent to Middleton Camp, near Birkenside and Dalkeith, where we
attended school and slept in large army-style huts with dormitories and
bunk beds.
Most
of the children here were from broken homes or victims of family problems.
Some schools used the facilities as a holiday camp, but Ian and I were not
on holiday by any manner of means. We were very reluctant
prisoners!"
House Master
"On
arrival, we were allocated to a hut. Each hut had House Master, who
would pull you into his little room and give you the belt, if you spoke in
bed after lights out."
Matron Nurse
The
Matron Nurse of the camp was a terror who everyone was frightened of,
stern and unsmiling. I remember one instance, when brother Ian, a
small child, had been paddling on a daily bases in a pond, as it was
summer time.
He
contracted Hawks on his legs, a sore and scabby skin condition, brought on
by not drying his legs after paddling. It was morning and all the
children had gathered in the communal washroom. Ian had one leg in the
sink, gingerly trying to wash his leg. He was only about five, for Gods
sake!
When
the matron saw his legs, she screamed at him for having filthy legs and
proceeded to hit him. At this point, young as I was, and disregarding any
fear of her. I pulled at her arm and said: “Leave him alone, it’s not
dirt, its Hawks”
Whether she was stunned at my audacity, or realised what the real problem
was, Ill never know ... but I do remember thinking that my whole world was
going to end, because of my intervention. She immediately stopped
chastising him. I don’t think I’ve done a braver thing in my life since!
Today that nurse would have been sent to gaol."
Saturday Mornings
"In
the camp, on a Saturday morning, we would gather in the communal hall and
you were asked if you wanted to go home. Provided you had enough cash
credits - how this was arrived at I do not know - you put your hand up.
You were, given a few shillings and off you went on you own, at that
tender age!
Most
times my first stop would be my granny’s. I knew she would always
give me money. She lived in Montgomery Street.
My next stop
was home, for a short spell ,then back to the camp, quite an unsupervised
journey for a child of my age
On
occasion my Aunt Joey and Uncle Johnny would visit and give me money which
I could spend in the Tuck shop."
Recreation Hut
"In
camp, there was a little recreation hut you could use if you wanted to
read, play board games or write a letter home. All letters were read
by a Supervisor and censored, by the way, in case you said anything
derogatory about the place, just like prison.
Being
a resilient wee chappy I used to take my letters to the cookhouse and ask
the staff to post them, whether they did or not, I don’t know."
Fowl Farm
"The
camp had its own fowl farm, with geese, ducks and chickens and it was fun
collecting the eggs."
Middleton House
"At
the other end of the camp, there was a large mansion house (Middleton
House) where other children lived."
Lake
"In
this area, there was an artificial lake with an island in the centre,
complete with raft. We had fun catching minnows and newts.
We
were given regular meals, but often still felt hungry during the day.
So we would go to the hen house, steal some eggs, put them in an old can,
add water from the lake and boil them."
Last Day
"My
last day at the camp was a bit scary, but at the same time, adventurous.
My friend and I decided to go walkies. We wandered through woods, glens
and meadows, not knowing where we were going.
It was
a glorious hot summer’s day. Pissed off with the dogma of the place
we decided to run away. After another hour or so we got cold feet
and decided to return and face the music.
Full
of fear and angst, we arrived, by the grace of God, back at the camp and
met a teacher who told me to report to the dreaded Matron, the one who hit
my wee brother.
I
gingerly knocked on her door to be met by a very stern face that asked me
where I had been. My response never came out.
She
abruptly told me my brother Ian had been released and taken home by
ambulance and I was told to collect my belongings, given a few shillings.
I was told that I could make my way home on my own, and that I was
discharged for good.
I was
Just a kid. 'Off you go.' No supervision, no security.
That's how things were in those days."
School
"Whilst at the camp, I attended school there. Young as I was, I
attended a metal work class and was taught how to repair boots etc."
The Grounds
"One
positive aspect was that the grounds, which we had free range to roam,
were beautiful with plenty of wooded areas that, lent themselves to a bit
of adventure."
"How
long I was there? I can’t recall, but I remember daffodils growing,
hard boiled, coloured Easter eggs and very hot weather, so it must have
been for the duration of spring and part of summer - and I do
remember school classes from Leith Academy being there at holiday time.
Some also went to the other camp, Broomlee."
Frank Ferri, Newhaven, Edinburgh: August 10, 2011 |
Recollections
14.
Douglas Easton |
Thank you to Douglas Easton who
wrote, telling me that his mother (then Margaret Kennaway) and her
mother's sister (Mary), had been evacuees at Middleton House, from 1939 to
1941.
Alex asked if I could add the
letter below to the EdinPhoto web site. The letter was written by
his mother and published in the Edinburgh Evening News.
|
Letter to
Edinburgh Evening News
Teachers
"I
was evacuated with my young sister to Middleton Hall and spent many happy
years there. I was looked after very well by the staff:
-
Miss Bonnyman was the Headmistress.
- Miss
Thomson and Miss Campbell were our teachers.
-
Mr Duncan stayed in the gatehouse with his family.
-
Mr Menzies stayed round at the stables with his family."
Frogs
"Down
in the grounds, there was a pond with an island in the middle, and a boat
where we all used to play and row over to the island which was full of
frogs, toads and small fish.
I remember, we used to think the
frog with his legs round the other frog's body was choking it to death, so
my friends and I would go down every day after school, grab the frogs,
pull them apart. throw the top one away, pet the other one and gently put
it back in the water. We felt good at saving its life. It was
years before I learnt they were mating!
..."
Margaret Easton
Gilmerton, Edinburgh
Douglas Easton: November 6, 2011 |
Recollections
15.
Chris Topp |
Thank you to Chris Topp who
wrote:
|
1960
Youth Clubs
"I
came to Middleton in 1960 when I was a young boy. I was a member of
a Methodist Youth Club in England.
©
The Youth
Clubs came from many parts in England and Wales for a Scottish
Holiday arranged by Rev Price, the leader of the clubs.
Sadly
I am no longer in contact with very many of my youth club which came to
Scotland from Sherborne, Dorset, all those years ago."
Food
"My
Lasting memory is the food. We had lettuce for breakfast, dinner and
tea. By the end of the week we were going to local tuck shops for
extra nourishment."
Chris Topp: February 8, 2012 |
Recollections
16.
Dennis Walkingshaw
Livingston Village, West Lothian,
Scotland |
Thank you to Dennis
Walkingshaw who wrote:
|
Middleton House Postcards
The Photographer
"This
postcard photograph of Middleton House was taken by William Wallace of
Middleton.
©
He produced a wide selection of
postcards of various locations in the Gorebridge area. They were
sold in local newsagents.
Mr Wallace was mainly a wedding
and function photographer. He showed me how to develop and print my
own photos, for which I will always be grateful.
The caption was written on a
glass plate using Liquid Opaque. The glass was then placed on top of
the photographic paper during the printing to produce the white text.
Dennis Walkingshaw, Livingston Village, West Lothian,
Scotland: June 13, 2013 |
Recollections
17.
Rob Brennan |
Here, Rob
Brennan asks a question on behalf of his father, Bob Brennan.
Rob wrote:
|
Bob Brennan
From Scotland
"My
Dad', Robert (Bob) Brennan, was born in Craigmillar in 1933 and lived
there until the 1940s.
After
doing his National Service, he got he chance to become an apprentice
jockey and landed up in Epsom, Surrey where he has lived since he was 18
years old.
He's now 81
but always wears a tartan cap, and never misses a chance to fly the
Scottish flag."
Middleton Camp
"Dad
attended Middleton Camp, around 1942-45. He'd
love to hear from anyone who spent time in the camp. It really was a
major point in his life.
He remembers the teaching staff
there:
- Mr Bruce, the headmaster
- Ms Atkinson (in charge of the farm)
- Mrs Porter (who would march you up the
hill)
- Mr West (who was the secretary) and
- Mr Slosh
Dad is extremely keen to know if there are any
archived Middleton camp child registries, or any other records or photos
relating to the camp. He would like to see anything relating to
himself or to his contemporaries at the camp.
Dryburgh Brewery
"Dad
also worked at Dryburgh Brewery, Craigmillar when he was around 14 years
old."
Rob Brennan: Jul 5, 2014 (2 emails) + Feb 26, 2015 |
Reply to Rob Brennan?
If you'd
like to send a reply to Rob Brennan, or to his Dad, (Bob)
please email me to let me know, then I'll pass on Rob's email
address to you.
Peter Stubbs, Edinburgh: July 4, 2013 |
Recollections
18.
Gordon Davie
Abbeyhill, Edinburgh |
Thank you to Gordon Davie who
wrote: |
1968 Camp
"I've
just been reading people's memories of Middleton Camp School. I was there
in 1968. I can remember the year because we were allowed to listen
to the European Cup Final on the radio, between Manchester United and
Benfica.
We arrived on the Monday and went home on
Friday of the following week. Our parents visited on the middle
weekend."
Homesick
"I had been very homesick during the first
week and was seriously considering going home with my mum and dad, but my
best friend, Andrew, talked me into staying. As I recall he offered
to swap beds with me so I could sleep on the top bunk!
I was fine by the time my mum and dad actually
arrived, and never mentioned to them that I had been planning on going
back with them - until another of my friends asked me if I was still
leaving! I then had to explain all to mum and dad. They were
sympathetic but glad that I'd decided to stay. Presumably they enjoyed the
peace and quiet at home!"
Talent Show
"Also, in the middle weekend a
talent show was organised, with songs and sketches put on by the camp
staff as well as some of the teachers accompanying the schools.
It was announced that The Monkees (who were
very big at the time) would be appearing. I can't remember if I
really believed it or not, but of course it turned out to be just four of
the teachers wearing silly wigs.
I suppose these days it would be One
Direction, except that modern kids aren't so gullible as we were!"
Gordon Davie, Abbeyhill, Edinburgh: July 6, 2014 |
Recollections
19.
Frank Ferri
Newhaven, Edinburgh |
Thank you to Frank Ferri who
wrote: |
Middleton Camp
Question
What is on the site Today?
"Can
anyone tell me the present day status of the site that used to be
Middleton Camp? I know it closed as a residential school in the late
1960s, but what is it now?
Last week,
my brother and I made a nostalgic trip out there to take pictures but we
couldn't gain access. The main entrance with gate house lodge on the
corner of the estate that faced on to the A7 road seams to have gone,
although about half a mile up the side road there is a large gate.
It had an intercom entry system but we got no reply.
I've checked
the internet, but I can find nothing of its present day use. Is it
private housing?
Frank Ferri, Newhaven, Edinburgh: September 11, 2012 |
Reply to Frank's Question
If you can help to answer the question that Frank
asks above, please
email me to let me know, then I'll pass on Frank's email address to
you.
Thank you.
Peter Stubbs, Edinburgh: October 30, 2014 |
Recollections
19.
Reply
1.
Donald Grant
Penicuik, Midlothian, Scotland |
Thank you to Donald Grant for
replying to the question asked by Frank Ferri.
Donald
wrote: |
Middleton Camp
What is on the site Today?
"The
last I heard from a lady who lived just a few hundred yards from the
entrance to Middleton House was about five years ago before I retired.
She was a client of my employer.
At that time
it was a private residence owned by a wealthy American gentleman and
occupied as a family home.
look
at a satellite photo on Google maps shows that the old school camp
buildings have gone!
Donald Grant, Penicuik, Midlothian, Scotland: October
31, 2014 |
Recollections
19.
Reply
2.
Forbes Wilson
near Guildford, Surrey, England |
Thank you to Forbes Wilson for
also replying to the question asked by Frank Ferri.
Forbes wrote: |
Location of Middleton Camp
What is on the site Today?
"I read with
interest Frank Ferri’s posting regarding Middleton Camp School.
Whilst visiting
friends in North Middleton in 2012, I went looking for the camp but with
no luck.
Google Maps
confirms that there are now no camp school buildings in the vicinity
adjacent to Middleton House, but you can still see in the grass, the
outlines of the old camp buildings and what appears to be the
outline of the foundations for the paths. These can be correlated with the
images provided Alex Johnson in 3 above.
I believe the camp
was closed and sold in 1985
Forbes Wilson, near Guildford, Surrey, England:
October 31, 2014 |
Question for Forbes Wilson
Google Maps Image
Forbes:
Please email me if you
understand what's been happening below.
(a) The Google Maps image that you sent to me showed trees, cross-roads and fields
(b) I copied it onto my computer and it displayed a small image,
showing trees, cross-roads, fields and a large house to the right of the
cross-roads.
(c) I then tried displaying the image on the EdinPhoto web
site, but I saw only
trees, cross-roads and fields, but no house. I've now removed the
image from the web site until I discover what's been happening.
Incidentally, are you able to
send the image to me again, including the Google logo,
as Google require that to be shown on any images that are displayed on web
sites. Thank you.
Peter Stubbs,
Edinburgh: November 1, 2014 |
Update
3 November 2014
Google Image
©
I've now discovered what was happening above. It was an optical
illusion.
- The shape of the light fields in the Google Maps image that
Forbes sent to me looked like an old house with gable on the right-hand
side
- The individual dark trees in the field looked like its windows.
See the thumbnail image above.
That was all a bit spooky, as I viewed the image on Halloween!
Peter Stubbs, Edinburgh: November 3, 2014 |
Recollections
19.
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3.
Forbes Wilson
Penicuik, Midlothian, Scotland |
Thank you to Forbes Wilson for
sending his Google Maps image to me again, along with a second image.
Forbes wrote |
Location of Middleton Camp
Google Aerial View
"Here
are two images.
-
Photo 1 is the original Google Maps view, complete with all the Google
logos etc.
-
Photo 2
is the
same view with photos from your web pages to illustrate the correlation
between what appears to be the foundation outlines of what used to be the
dormitories. I’ve illustrated what is visible now with red
rectangles."
Photo
1.
The location of Middleton Camp
© Google:
Reproduced with acknowledgement to Forbes Wilson, near Guildford, Surrey,
England
Photo
2.
The location of Middleton Camp - and
old Post Cards
© Google:
Reproduced with acknowledgement to Forbes Wilson, near Guildford, Surrey,
England
Forbes Wilson, near Guildford, Surrey, England:
October 31, 2014
|
Google Maps Image
I've left the dimensions of the images the same as those sent to me by
Forbes, even though the second image appears to have been stretched
vertically (to become more square) compared to the first.
Peter Stubbs,
Edinburgh: November 1, 2014 |
Recollections
19.
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4.
Frank Ferri
Penicuik, Midlothian, Scotland |
Thank you to Frank Ferri who
wrote: |
Middleton Camp
Sad it's now gone.
"Thanks
for all the information. It's sad that the camp has now gone."
Searching for the Camp
"In spring this year, 2014, I
went with my brother on a nostalgic trip to try to find the old
camp, as we had done in the 1970s, but couldn’t find the entrance. A
mound of earth appeared to have been dumped there."
Memories of the old Entrance
"My recall was that about 2 or 3
miles south of Birkenside the entrance to the estate, was on your right of
the main road, and the gate with gatehouse was right on the corner, with a
long path leading up to Middleton House, the wooden camp buildings being
on your right on the way up."
The Entrance Today
"Now, if you turn right off the
main road and travel 200 or 300 yards up the side road, you come to a
large electronic gate with an access intercom. Perhaps this is the
new entrance to the property."
Artificial Lake
"I also remember and small
artificial; lake just behind the big house that had an island in the
centre, as a child and a brief resident there in the mid 40s I remember
wading out to it."
Thank You
"I'd like to pass on my thanks to
Donald Grant and Forbes Wilson for their responses to my question."
Frank Ferri, Newhaven, Edinburgh: November 2, 2014 |
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20.
Peter Scott
Vienna, Austria |
Peter Scott wrote: |
Middleton Camp
Our Welcome
"I
recall Middleton Camp as the first home in the free world for Mum, Dad and
me, after we became refugees in November 1956. Middleton was turned into a
shelter for Hungarian escapees and we lived there for approximately three
months, before Dad found a job and we settled in South Kensington, London.
I have to say
that, to this very day, the memories of the kindness, caring and
generosity of the locals remains with me.
They related to
us, a bunch of homeless, stateless and, frankly, destitute foreigners, as
if we were family. Scotland and its people remain in my heart and in my
blood for as long as I am alive.
Moving On
"It was no
accident, that, after we moved on to our original target destination in
1958 and became Australian citizens a couple of years later, at my
initiative, our family Anglicized its name from Szász to Scott.
In fact, when, in
2010, I reclaimed my Hungarian citizenship (alongside, not instead of, my
Australian identity) and the authorities were going to issue a passport
under my original Hungarian name, I opted, instead, to officially change
it by deed poll to Scott – again. (I hope you can follow all that!)
Our Return Visit to Middleton
"As it happens,
I'm writing this in London, heading up to Scotland tomorrow evening. The
plan was that I would take my wife on a sentimental drive out to Middleton
on Monday. But, I
was sad
to find out, that nothing’s left of the camp - except, of course, the
memories of all the kindness, and of my first ever girlfriend, Jeanette
Buchanan of Gorebridge. At age 13 she was the love of my life!"
Peter Scott, Vienna, Austria: 6 February 2016 |
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