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Buildings Around Edinburgh

Middleton House

Near Borthwick Castle.

About 14 miles SE of Edinburgh.

Middleton House

postcard  posted 1961

Postcard by an unidentified publisher  -  Middleton House

©  Reproduced with acknowledgement to Phil Wilson, Aberdeen.                                    Postcard: publisher and photographer unknown

 

Middleton House

Recollections and News

1.

Phil Wilson
Aberdeen, Scotland

1961

2.

John Gray
Stenhouse, Edinburgh

Early-1960s

3.

Alex Jackson
Mortonhall, Edinburgh

Postcards

4.

John Cassidy
Glasgow, Scotland

1971

5.

Phil Wilson
Aberdeen, Scotland

Middleton House 'For Sale'

6.

Susan McCaig
Gorebridge, Midlothian, Scotland

Grandfather - Head Gardener

Mum + Aunt

Recent Visit

7.

Jim Patience
Alberta, Canada

1948/49

8.

David Procter
Cape Breton, Nova Scotia, Canada

1974

9.

Frank Ferri
Newhaven, Edinburgh

c.1945/46  -  3 months

10.

Frank Ferri
Newhaven, Edinburgh

Night

Morning

Saturday

Recreation Rooms

Grounds

School Camps

11.

Tom Traynor
London

Evacuees

12.

Robert Fender
England

Evacuees

13.

Frank Ferri
Newhaven, Edinburgh

Late-1940s

-  Homes for Children

-  House Master

-  Matron Nurse

-  Saturday Mornings

-  Recreation Hut

-  Fowl Farm

-  Middleton House

-  Lake

-  Last Day

-  School

-  The Grounds

14.

Alex Easton

1939-41

-  Teachers

-  Frogs

15.

Chris Topp

1960

-  Youth Clubs

-  Food

16.

Dennis Walkingshaw
Livingston Village West Lothian, Scotland

Middleton House Postcards

-  The Photographer

17.

Rob Brennan

Bob Brennan

-  From Scotland

-  Middleton Camp

-  Dryburgh Brewery

18.

Gordon Davie
Abbeyhill

1968 Camp

-  Homesick

-  Talent Show

19.

Frank Ferri
Newhaven, Edinburgh

Middleton House

-  What is on the site Today?

19.

Reply 1.

Donald Grant
Penicuik, Midlothian, Scotland

Middleton House and Camp

-  What is on the site Today?

19.

Reply 2.

Forbes Wilson
near Guildford, Surrey, England

Location of Middleton Camp

-  What is on the site Today?

19.

Reply 3.

Forbes Wilson
near Guildford, Surrey, England

Location of Middleton Camp

-   Aerial Views Today

19.

Reply 4.

Frank Ferri
Newhaven, Edinburgh

Middleton Camp

-  Sad it's now gone

-  Searching for the camp

-  Memories of the entrance

-  The entrance today

-  Artificial lake

20.

Peter Scott
Vienna, Austria

Middleton Camp

-  Our Welcome

-  Moving on

-  Our Return Visit to Middleton

 

Recollections

1.

Phil Wilson

Aberdeen, Scotland

Thank you to Phil Wilson, Aberdeen, Scotland, for providing the picture above, taken from a postcard that he posted from Middleton in 1961.

Many school camps were held at Middleton House, about 12 miles SE of Edinburgh.  The postcard above refers to Middleton House as being the property of the School Camps Association.

Phil wrote:

1961

"Here is a card that I sent from Middleton, where my grandparents had a country cottage retreat, just outside the Camp grounds, in 1961.

Now that the land is in private hands again, I guess that public access is more restricted.

My Dad, brother and I used to go to a particular pond on the river there to fish occasionally, and we used to see rabbits on the lawn outside the House, and bats at night.

Despite the amateurish looking appearance of the card I think it would probably have been sold in the local shop, which used to stand on the old road at Middleton crossroads. I think there used to be a PO next door, from where I would have sent it.

I believe it's an international conference location now.  At least it was the last time I was near it."

Phil Wilson, Aberdeen, Scotland:  May 21, 2006.

 

Recollections

2.

John Gray

Stenhouse, Edinburgh

Thank you to John Gray who wrote:

Early-1960s

"I remember Middleton Camp circa early-'sixties.

We went from Brunstane Primary School.  I guess i was about ten at the time.  We stayed for three days and two night and slept in army-style bunk beds.

In the daytime, I remember us playing war games against other schools.  This, of course, would not be allowed in today's lily- livered society, in case someone got a skint knee and sued the school !!.

Anyway, I vividly remember, after being captured by the 'enemy', being made to eat a cream cracker with soap spread on it.  I can still taste it as i write this !!"

John Gray, Stenhouse, Edinburgh:  June 16, 2007

 

Recollections

3.

Alex Jackson

Mortonhall, Edinburgh

Thank you to Alex Jackson, Edinburgh, for sending these recollections of school camps at Middleton.

Alex wrote:

Postcards

"Here are 3 Valentine postcards of Middleton Camp.

Valentine Postcard  -  Middleton School Camp, Gorebridge, Midlothian ©  Valentine Postcard  -  Middleton School Camp, Gorebridge, Midlothian ©  Valentine Postcard  -  Middleton School Camp, Gorebridge, Midlothian ©

I remember the war games that John speaks of, and can recall being told in the Assembly Hall that the Queen had given birth to a boy to be called Andrew.

The cards have February 1960 written on the back of them and tie in with the Duke of York's birth."

Alex Jackson, Mortonhall, Edinburgh:  June 24, 2007

The same cards were presumably sold to the campers for several years.  The numbers on the cards indicate that the photographs were, in fact, taken in 1951 and 1952.

 -  Peter Stubbs;  June 27, 2007

Alex continued

"The 'X' marked on the 3rd card would have been my mother marking the dorm that I stayed in. I would have been there in my last year at Abbeyhill Primary School.

There must have been many children from Edinburgh primary schools who would have stayed at Middleton Camp in the '50s and '60s."

Alex Jackson, Mortonhall, Edinburgh:  June 24, 2007

 

Recollections

4.

John Cassidy

Glasgow, Scotland

Thank you to John Cassidy, Glasgow, for leaving this message in the EdinPhoto guestbook.

John wrote:

1971

"Thanks for sharing the photos of the residential school.   I was at the Gorebridge Residential School in 1971 for 3 weeks with other schools.

I had a great time. I also remember the wasps all over the place and the visits to the lily pond.

I often wonder if the school is still there."

John Cassidy, Glasgow, Scotland:  April 15, 2008

 

Recollections

5.

Phil Wilson

Aberdeen, Scotland

Thank you to Phil Wilson for letting me know that Middleton House (re-named Middleton Hall) is now up for sale.

Phil Wilson, Aberdeen, Scotland:  June 8, 2008

Middleton House 'For Sale'

Here is how the property is described:

Middleton Hall, Middleton, EH23 4RD

Offers Over Ł3,250,000

A quite outstanding residential estate in a superb parkland setting just 14 miles from the centre of Edinburgh.

Magnificent, fully restored, 18th century grade 'A' listed mansion house

Galleried reception hall/drawing room, dining room, family sitting room, music room, library, billiard room, kitchen/breakfast room, principal bedroom suite with sitting room, dressing room and bathroom, five further en suite bedrooms, office/store rooms

Attic playrooms

One bedroom self contained flat

Storage

Partially converted separate stable block with stabling for 15 horses and stallion and foaling boxes

Fully refurbished three bedroom north lodge

Grade 'C' listed South Lodge and keeper's cottage to be restored

Sweeping lawns and Victorian pond

Former walled kitchen garden

Parkland policies with broadleaved trees and mixed woodland, all within a walled boundary

Approx. 113 acres (45.73 hectares) in all

 

 

Recollections

6.

Susan McCaig

Gorebridge, Midlothian, Scotland

Thank you to Susan McCaig who wrote:

Grandfather  -  Head Gardener

"I've just been  just looking at your postcards of Middleton Camp.  I thought I'd take the time to write and say, my grandfather, Mr Duncan, was the head gardener and caretaker of the camp until i think around the very late-1960's."

Mum + Aunt

"My mum was just a child and grew up there but my aunt who was 11 years older was a nurse there, caring for the kids and my great aunt was one of the cooks, ( She was deaf and wore one of those hearing aids with the big box on the front and a big wire going into her ear)."

Recent Visit

"I used to love listening to the stories they all told, it sounded like a great place. Sadly we visited there a few months ago, to scatter my aunts ashes.  It was her wish and the new owners gave us permission.

it's still a beautiful place.  There are none of the dorms there now but the pond is still there."

Susan McCaig, Gorebridge, Midlothian, Scotland:  July 19, 2008

 

Recollections

7.

Jim Patience

Alberta, Canada

Jim Patience wrote:

1948/49

"I was at Middleton House in 1948 or 1949, memory is getting short.

I met my first love there.  Her name was Iris Moffat.  I was 11 and she was 10.

If I remember rightly it wasn't far from Borthwick Castle."

Jim Patience Alberta, July 26, 2008

 

Recollections

8.

David Procter

Cape Breton, Nova Scotia, Canada

David Procter wrote:

1974

"I remember staying at Middleton Camp in 1974, for 4 weeks. I was a  student at Lanark Primary School at the time.

I have fond memories of the bunkhouse and the fact that boys were very firmly separated from the girls. I also remember singing 'The Black Hills of Dakota', very badly!!"

David Procter:   August 28, 2008

 

Recollections

9.

Frank Ferri

Newhaven, Edinburgh

Frank Ferri wrote:

Around 1945/46  -  3 months

"I stayed at Middleton Camp with my young brother for about 3 months circa 1945/46.  Father was at sea and mother was unwell, so we were resident and attended school there.

The camp Matron was a horror we were all terrified of her.  She skelped us hard.

We used to go to the man-made pond with the wee island in the middle near the big manor house, Middleton House, to catch newts.  They had their own chicken/duck farm then"

Frank Ferri, Newhaven, Edinburgh:  October 21, 2008

 

Recollections

10.

Frank Ferri

Newhaven, Edinburgh

Frank Ferri added more memories of being a long-term resident at Middleton Camp.

Frank wrote:

Night

"Long term residents at Middleton Camp, such as those in temporary care due to home problems, attended school there. Each dormitory was supervised at night by at teacher who had quarters in a small room at the entrance of the dormitory.

We slept in two-tier bunks.  Lo and behold anyone who spoke after lights out.  The teachers were severe about that.  They still used the strap for punishment in those days."

Morning

"In the morning you were to march down to a communal wash room, then to the dinning room for breakfast.

I remember on one occasion in the wash room, my wee brother (only aged 6) was getting major grief from the matron who was shouting and hitting him on the legs which were sore and saying your legs are ingrained with dirt.  (I knew this not to be true because, in the summer month we would paddle in the pond, not drying our legs with the result the skin became cracked developing Hawks (spelling?), a very sore condition.

Despite my terror of this woman, I ran up to her shouting, leave him alone, it's not dirt, it's Hawks.  At that point I thought my world would cave in.  However for some reason she stopped her abuse and that was that."

Saturday

"Saturday was Assembly Day.  You gathered in the big communal hall.  They would shout out your name, gave you some money for the Tuck Shop and asked if you wished to go home for the day.  This could only happen if you had money which they kept and allocated to you, I assume this was left by relatives who visited from time to time.

If you had the funds, they gave you enough for return bus fare into the city.  I was only 11 years old but used to do this journey from Gorebridge. I'd visit my old Italian granny who lived in Montgomery Street and was always good for a bit pocket money.

Recreation Room

"The camp had a small recreation room for reading, playing board games or writing letters, which were censored.   Being a wee fly man, to avoid censorship, I'd write a letter home, take to the kitchen and ask a member of staff to post it for me.  I never knew if it was posted or not -  a bit like Stalag 17, if you like."

Grounds

"The positive side was, in your free time, you pretty much had the run of the camp's massive grounds with woods and the pond to play in, or collect eggs from their poultry farm."

School Camps

"City schools used the camp plus another at Broomlee for two weeks during the school holidays.  I think life was a bit easier for them. The big manse was also used for camps during the school holidays."

Things could be tough in them old days."

Frank Ferri, Newhaven, Edinburgh:  October 23, 2008

 

Recollections

11.

Tom Traynor

London, England

Tom Traynor wrote:

Evacuees

"I  was an evacuee in Middleton House during World War 2.

My sister and brother were placed in Middleton Camp.  This was a collection of huts put up in the grounds.

Tom Traynor, London, England:  Message posted in EdinPhoto guest book, May 15, 2010

 

Recollections

12.

Robert Fender

London, England

Robert Fender wrote:

1949

"The comments above on Middleton Camp took me back over fifty years to the time I spent there in 1949.  I can't remember exactly how long I was there, but it would have been about a week to a fortnight."

Rugby Match

    Leith Academy Pupils at Middleton Camp, 1949 ©

"This photo was taken when we had a 7-a-side match against some of the teachers who were there.   All the lads in the picture were from Leith Academy.  (That's our rugby strips we are wearing.)

I'm the one who is looking away from the camera.   Too many years have past to remember much about who else was in the picture, but I do remember one of the boys, Ian Ramsey.  He's next to me on the right as you look at the photo.   One of the teachers, I believe, is  Mr. Maitland from our school.  He's is the one on the far right."

Robert Fender, England:  August 3, 2011

Recollections

13.

Frank Ferri

Newhaven, Edinburgh

Frank Ferri wrote:

Late-1940s

Homes for Children

"In the late-1940s, Middleton Camp was not only used as an inexpensive venue for school children to have a holiday.  It was also a facility, as was the adjacent Middleton House, to temporarily locate children with problems at home, such as parental ill health, bad housing or dire poverty

My brother 5 years my junior and I were separated from our parents for quite some time, (father being away at sea) when I was about aged 10 years of age. Due to some family drama, which I was never able to rationalise.

We were sent to Middleton Camp, near Birkenside and Dalkeith, where we attended school and slept in large army-style huts with dormitories and bunk beds.

Most of the children here were from broken homes or victims of family problems.  Some schools used the facilities as a holiday camp, but Ian and I were not on holiday by any manner of means.  We were very reluctant prisoners!"

House Master

"On arrival, we were allocated to a hut.  Each hut had House Master, who would pull you into his little room and give you the belt, if you spoke in bed after lights out."

Matron Nurse

The Matron Nurse of the camp was a terror who everyone was frightened of, stern and unsmiling.  I remember one instance, when brother Ian, a small child, had been paddling on a daily bases in a pond, as it was summer time.

He contracted Hawks on his legs, a sore and scabby skin condition, brought on by not drying his legs after paddling.  It was morning and all the children had gathered in the communal washroom. Ian had one leg in the sink, gingerly trying to wash his leg. He was only about five, for Gods sake!

When the matron saw his legs, she screamed at him for having filthy legs and proceeded to hit him. At this point, young as I was, and disregarding any fear of her. I pulled at her arm and said: “Leave him alone, it’s not dirt, its Hawks”

Whether she was stunned at my audacity, or realised what the real problem was, Ill never know ... but I do remember thinking that my whole world was going to end, because of my intervention.  She immediately stopped chastising him. I don’t think I’ve done a braver thing in my life since!   Today that nurse would have been sent to gaol."

Saturday Mornings

"In the camp, on a Saturday morning, we would gather in the communal hall and you were asked if you wanted to go home. Provided you had enough cash credits - how this was arrived at I do not know - you put your hand up.  You were, given a few shillings and off you went on you own, at that tender age!

Most times my first stop would be my granny’s.  I knew she would always give me money.  She lived in Montgomery Street.

My next stop was home, for a short spell ,then back to the camp, quite an unsupervised journey for a child of my age

On occasion my Aunt Joey and Uncle Johnny would visit and give me money which I could spend in the Tuck shop."

Recreation Hut

"In camp, there was a little recreation hut you could use if you wanted to read, play board games or write a letter home.  All letters were read by a Supervisor and censored, by the way, in case you said anything derogatory about the place, just like prison.

Being a resilient wee chappy I used to take my letters to the cookhouse and ask the staff to post them, whether they did or not, I don’t know."

Fowl Farm

"The camp had its own fowl farm, with geese, ducks and chickens and it was fun collecting the eggs."

Middleton House

"At the other end of the camp, there was a large mansion house (Middleton House) where other children lived."

Lake

"In this area, there was an artificial lake with an island in the centre, complete with raft.  We had fun catching minnows and newts.

We were given regular meals, but often still felt hungry during the day.  So we would go to the hen house, steal some eggs, put them in an old can, add water from the lake and boil them."

Last Day

"My last day at the camp was a bit scary, but at the same time, adventurous. My friend and I decided to go walkies. We wandered through woods, glens and meadows, not knowing where we were going.

It was a glorious hot summer’s day.  Pissed off with the dogma of the place we decided to run away.  After another hour or so we got cold feet and decided to return and face the music.

Full of fear and angst, we arrived, by the grace of God, back at the camp and met a teacher who told me to report to the dreaded Matron, the one who hit my wee brother.

I gingerly knocked on her door to be met by a very stern face that asked me where I had been.  My response never came out.

She abruptly told me my brother Ian had been released and taken home by ambulance and I was told to collect my belongings, given a few shillings.  I was told that I could make my way home on my own, and that I was discharged for good.

I was Just a kid.  'Off you go.'  No supervision, no security.  That's how things were in those days."

School

"Whilst at the camp, I attended school there.  Young as I was, I  attended a metal work class and was taught how to repair boots etc."

The Grounds

"One positive aspect was that the grounds, which we had free range to roam, were beautiful with plenty of wooded areas that, lent themselves to a bit of adventure."

"How long I was there?  I can’t recall, but I remember daffodils growing, hard boiled, coloured Easter eggs and very hot weather, so it must have been for the duration of spring and part of summer -  and I do remember school classes from Leith Academy being there at holiday time.  Some also went to the other camp, Broomlee."

Frank Ferri, Newhaven, Edinburgh:  August 10, 2011

Recollections

14.

Douglas Easton

Thank you to Douglas Easton who wrote, telling me that his mother (then Margaret Kennaway) and her mother's sister (Mary), had been evacuees at Middleton House, from 1939 to 1941.

Alex asked if I could add the letter below to the EdinPhoto web site.  The letter was written by his mother and published in the Edinburgh Evening News.

Letter to

Edinburgh Evening News

Teachers

"I was evacuated with my young sister to Middleton Hall and spent many happy years there.  I was looked after very well by the staff:

-  Miss Bonnyman was the Headmistress.

-  Miss Thomson and Miss Campbell were our teachers.

-  Mr Duncan stayed in the gatehouse with his family.

-  Mr Menzies stayed round at the stables with his family."

Frogs

"Down in the grounds, there was a pond with an island in the middle, and a boat where we all used to play and row over to the island which was full of frogs, toads and small fish.

I remember, we used to think the frog with his legs round the other frog's body was choking it to death, so my friends and I would go down every day after school, grab the frogs, pull them apart. throw the top one away, pet the other one and gently put it back in the water.  We felt good at saving its life.  It was years before I learnt they were mating!

..."

Margaret Easton

Gilmerton, Edinburgh

Douglas Easton:  November 6, 2011

Recollections

15.

Chris Topp

Thank you to Chris Topp who wrote:

1960

Youth Clubs

"I came to Middleton in 1960 when I was a young boy.  I was a member of a Methodist Youth Club in England.

Middleton Camp  -  A Combined Camp of Methodist Youth Clubs from England and Wales, 1960 ©

The Youth Clubs came from many parts in England and Wales for a Scottish Holiday arranged by Rev Price, the leader of the clubs.

Sadly I am no longer in contact with very many of my youth club which came to Scotland from Sherborne, Dorset, all those years ago."

Food

"My Lasting memory is the food.  We had lettuce for breakfast, dinner and tea.  By the end of the week we were going to local tuck shops for extra nourishment."

Chris Topp:  February 8, 2012

 

Recollections

16.

Dennis Walkingshaw

Livingston Village, West Lothian, Scotland

Thank you to Dennis Walkingshaw who wrote:

Middleton House Postcards

The Photographer

"This postcard photograph of Middleton House was taken by William Wallace of Middleton.

Postcard by an unidentified publisher  -  Middleton House ©

He produced a wide selection of postcards of various locations in the Gorebridge area.  They were sold in local newsagents.

Mr Wallace was mainly a wedding and function photographer.  He showed me how to develop and print my own photos, for which I will always be grateful.

The caption was written on a glass plate using Liquid Opaque.  The glass was then placed on top of the photographic paper during the printing to produce the white text.

Dennis Walkingshaw, Livingston Village, West Lothian, Scotland:  June 13, 2013

 

Recollections

17.

Rob Brennan

Here, Rob Brennan asks a question on behalf of  his father, Bob Brennan.

Rob wrote:

Bob Brennan

From Scotland

"My Dad', Robert (Bob) Brennan, was born in Craigmillar in 1933 and lived there until the 1940s.

After doing his National Service, he got he chance to become an apprentice jockey and landed up in Epsom, Surrey where he has lived since he was 18 years old.

He's now 81 but always wears a tartan cap, and never misses a chance to fly the Scottish flag."

Middleton Camp

"Dad attended Middleton Camp, around 1942-45.  He'd love to hear from anyone who spent time in the camp.  It really was a major point in his life.

He remembers the teaching staff there:

-  Mr Bruce, the headmaster

-  Ms Atkinson (in charge of the farm)

-  Mrs Porter (who would march you up the hill)

-  Mr West (who was the secretary) and

-  Mr Slosh

Dad is extremely keen to know if there are any archived Middleton camp child registries, or any other records or photos relating to the camp.  He would like to see anything relating to himself or to his contemporaries at the camp.

Dryburgh Brewery

"Dad also worked at Dryburgh Brewery, Craigmillar when he was around 14 years old."

Rob Brennan:  Jul 5, 2014 (2 emails) + Feb 26, 2015

Reply to Rob Brennan?

If you'd like to send a reply to Rob Brennan, or to his Dad, (Bob) please email me to let me know, then  I'll pass on Rob's email address to you.

Peter Stubbs, Edinburgh:  July 4, 2013

 

Recollections

18.

Gordon Davie

Abbeyhill, Edinburgh

Thank you to Gordon Davie who wrote:

1968 Camp

"I've just been reading people's memories of Middleton Camp School. I was there in 1968.  I can remember the year because we were allowed to listen to the European Cup Final on the radio, between Manchester United and Benfica.

We arrived on the Monday and went home on Friday of the following week.  Our parents visited on the middle weekend."

Homesick

"I had been very homesick during the first week and was seriously considering going home with my mum and dad, but my best friend, Andrew, talked me into staying.  As I recall he offered to swap beds with me so I could sleep on the top bunk!

I was fine by the time my mum and dad actually arrived, and never mentioned to them that I had been planning on going back with them - until another of my friends asked me if I was still leaving!  I then had to explain all to mum and dad.  They were sympathetic but glad that I'd decided to stay. Presumably they enjoyed the peace and quiet at home!"

Talent Show

"Also, in the middle weekend a talent show was organised, with songs and sketches put on by the camp staff as well as some of the teachers accompanying the schools.

It was announced that The Monkees (who were very big at the time) would be appearing.  I can't remember if I really believed it or not, but of course it turned out to be just four of the teachers wearing silly wigs.

I suppose these days it would be One Direction, except that modern kids aren't so gullible as we were!"

Gordon Davie, Abbeyhill, Edinburgh:  July 6, 2014

 

Recollections

19.

Frank Ferri

Newhaven, Edinburgh

Thank you to Frank Ferri who wrote:

Middleton Camp

Question

What is on the site Today?

"Can anyone tell me the present day status of the site that used to be Middleton Camp?  I know it closed as a residential school in the late 1960s, but what is it now?

Last week, my brother and I made a nostalgic trip out there to take pictures but we couldn't gain access. The main entrance with gate house lodge on the corner of the estate that faced on to the A7 road seams to have gone, although about half a mile up the side road there is a large gate.  It had an intercom entry  system but we got no reply.

I've checked the internet, but I can find nothing of its present day use.  Is it private housing?

Frank Ferri, Newhaven, Edinburgh:  September 11, 2012

Reply to Frank's Question

If you can help to answer the question that Frank asks above, please email me to let me know, then I'll pass on Frank's email address to you.

       Thank you.

Peter Stubbs, Edinburgh:  October 30, 2014

 

Recollections

19.

Reply

1.

Donald Grant

Penicuik, Midlothian, Scotland

Thank you to Donald Grant for replying to the question asked by Frank Ferri.

Donald wrote:

Middleton Camp

What is on the site Today?

"The last I heard from a lady who lived just a few hundred yards from the entrance to Middleton House was about five years ago before I retired.  She was a client of my employer.

At that time it was a private residence owned by a wealthy American gentleman and occupied as a family home.

 look at a satellite photo on Google maps shows that the old school camp buildings have gone!

Donald Grant, Penicuik, Midlothian, Scotland:  October 31, 2014

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Forbes Wilson

near Guildford, Surrey, England

Thank you to Forbes Wilson for also replying to the question asked by Frank Ferri.

Forbes wrote:

Location of Middleton Camp

What is on the site Today?

"I read with interest Frank Ferri’s posting regarding Middleton Camp School.

Whilst visiting friends in North Middleton in 2012, I went looking for the camp but with no luck.

Google Maps confirms that there are now no camp school buildings in the vicinity adjacent to Middleton House, but you can still see in the grass, the outlines of the old  camp buildings and what appears to be the outline of the foundations for the paths. These can be correlated with the images provided Alex Johnson in 3 above.

I believe the camp was closed and sold in 1985

Forbes Wilson, near Guildford, Surrey, England:  October 31, 2014

Question for Forbes Wilson

Google Maps Image

Forbes: 

Please email me if you understand what's been happening below.

(a)  The Google Maps image that you sent to me showed trees, cross-roads and fields

(b)  I copied it onto my computer and it displayed a small image, showing trees, cross-roads, fields and a large house to the right of the cross-roads.

(c)   I then tried displaying the image on the EdinPhoto web site, but I saw only trees, cross-roads and fields, but no house.  I've now removed the image from the web site until I discover what's been happening.

Incidentally, are you able to send the image to me again, including the Google logo, as Google require that to be shown on any images that are displayed on web sites.  Thank you.

Peter Stubbs, Edinburgh:  November 1, 2014

Update

3 November 2014

Google Image

©

I've now discovered what was happening above.  It was an optical illusion.

-  The shape of the light fields in the Google Maps image that Forbes sent to me looked like an old house with gable on the right-hand side

-  The individual dark trees in the field looked like its windows.  See the thumbnail image above.

That was all a bit spooky, as I viewed the image on Halloween!

Peter Stubbs, Edinburgh:  November 3, 2014

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Forbes Wilson

Penicuik, Midlothian, Scotland

Thank you to Forbes Wilson for sending his Google Maps image to me again, along with a second image.

Forbes wrote

Location of Middleton Camp

Google Aerial View

"Here are two images.

Photo 1 is the original Google Maps view, complete with all the Google logos etc.

-  Photo 2 is the same view with photos from your web pages to illustrate the correlation between what appears to be the foundation outlines of what used to be the dormitories.  I’ve illustrated what is visible now with red rectangles."

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The location of Middleton Camp

Google Maps View of the location of Middleton Camp

©  Google:  Reproduced with acknowledgement to Forbes Wilson, near Guildford, Surrey, England

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The location of Middleton Camp  -  and old Post Cards

Google Maps View of the location of Middleton Camp  -  with old postcards of the camp superimposed

©  Google:  Reproduced with acknowledgement to Forbes Wilson, near Guildford, Surrey, England

Forbes Wilson, near Guildford, Surrey, England:  October 31, 2014

 

Google Maps Image

I've left the dimensions of the images the same as those sent to me by Forbes, even though the second image appears to have been stretched vertically (to become more square) compared to the first. 

Peter Stubbs, Edinburgh:  November 1, 2014

 

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Frank Ferri

Penicuik, Midlothian, Scotland

Thank you to Frank Ferri who wrote:

Middleton Camp

Sad it's now gone.

"Thanks for all the information.  It's sad that the camp has now gone."

Searching for the Camp

"In spring this year, 2014, I went with  my brother on a nostalgic trip to try to find the old camp, as we had done in the 1970s, but couldn’t find the entrance.  A mound of earth appeared to have been dumped there."

Memories of the old Entrance

"My recall was that about 2 or 3 miles south of Birkenside the entrance to the estate, was on your right of the main road, and the gate with gatehouse was right on the corner, with a long path leading up to Middleton House, the wooden camp buildings being on your right on the way up."

The Entrance Today

"Now, if you turn right off the main road and travel 200 or 300 yards up the side road, you come to a large electronic gate with an access intercom.  Perhaps this is the new entrance to the property."

Artificial Lake

"I also remember and small artificial; lake just behind the big house that had an island in the centre, as a child and a brief resident there in the mid 40s I remember wading out to it."

Thank You

"I'd like to pass on my thanks to Donald Grant and Forbes Wilson for their responses to my question."

Frank Ferri, Newhaven, Edinburgh:  November 2, 2014

 

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Peter Scott

Vienna, Austria

Peter Scott wrote:

Middleton Camp

Our Welcome

"I recall Middleton Camp as the first home in the free world for Mum, Dad and me, after we became refugees in November 1956. Middleton was turned into a shelter for Hungarian escapees and we lived there for approximately three months, before Dad found a job and we settled in South Kensington, London.

I have to say that, to this very day, the memories of the kindness, caring and generosity of the locals remains with me.

They related to us, a bunch of homeless, stateless and, frankly, destitute foreigners, as if we were family. Scotland and its people remain in my heart and in my blood for as long as I am alive.

Moving On

"It was no accident, that, after we moved on to our original target destination in 1958 and became Australian citizens a couple of years later, at my initiative, our family Anglicized its name from Szász to Scott.

In fact, when, in 2010, I reclaimed my Hungarian citizenship (alongside, not instead of, my Australian identity) and the authorities were going to issue a passport under my original Hungarian name, I opted, instead, to officially change it by deed poll to Scott – again.  (I hope you can follow all that!)

Our Return Visit to Middleton

"As it happens, I'm writing this in London, heading up to Scotland tomorrow evening. The plan was that I would take my wife on a sentimental drive out to Middleton on Monday.  But, I was sad to find out, that nothing’s left of the camp - except, of course, the memories of all the kindness, and of my first ever girlfriend, Jeanette Buchanan of Gorebridge. At age 13 she was the love of my life!"

Peter Scott, Vienna, Austria:  6 February 2016

 

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