Edinburgh Corporation
Buses
1960s |
Edinburgh Corporation Transport -
Parcels Service
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Reproduced with acknowledgement to Adrian H Dodsley, Oakerthorpe, Derbyshire,
who supplied this photo to me.
Question |
Where and When?
I believe that this photograph may have been taken around the 1960s -
but where was this Parcels Office?
The bus in this photo is a Leyland PSUC1/3 (Duple bodybuilder).
It is one of a batch of 100 similar vehicles bought in 1959-60. This
one was bought in 1960. The last of these vehicles was withdrawn
from service in 1978.
If you can tell me more about where or when this photo might have been
taken,
please e-mail me.
Thank you.
- Peter Stubbs:
August 22, 2007 |
Answer
1.
Douglas Beath
Burnie, Tasmania, Australia |
Thank you to Douglas Beath who
replied:
Shrubhill
"From roof shape and fenestration, this photo
was obviously taken outside the museum seen in the photograph of Edinburgh
tram No 35
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probably in James Street, Shrubhill.
The ECT Parcel Service would only have
occupied a small part (if at all) of the big building. They did have a
shop front in Leith Walk beside the tram depot gate."
Douglas Beath, Burnie, Tasmania, August 23, 2007 |
Answer
2.
Donald Grant
Penicuik, Midlothian, Scotland |
Thank you to Donald Grant who
replied:
The Location
"There's no doubt that the location is
Shrubhill, and judging from the driver's white topped cap and dust coat it
is summertime.
The lack of destination on the front blind,
allied to the drivers uniform, suggests that the bus was being used for
private hire at the time the photo was taken."
The Bus
"The bus is a Leyland Tiger Cub and, as you
caption it, PSUC1/3. However the body is not by Duple but is in fact by
Weymann as were all the ECT Tiger Cubs with this type of body.
It can be a little confusing as this
particular style of body (or at
least very similar types) were built by several different coachbuilders.
Source: 'Edinburgh's Transport, The
Corporation Years' (D.L.G. Hunter). This is pretty
much the "bible" for Edinburgh Corporation Transport information
After withdrawal in Edinburgh in 1966 some of these
vehicles were sold to Ulster Transport Authority and served there for a
number of years. That was the entire 1959 batch SWS 1 - 50 save for
numbers 9 and 22 which were withdrawn in 1963.
Donald Grant, Penicuik,
Midlothian, Scotland: February 19, 2008 |
Answer
3.
Jim Paton
Australia |
Thank you to Jim Paton who
replied:
Parcel Depot
"The Parcel depot sure was outside the gate to
the Shrubhill depot. I was a 'Parcel Boy' from 1957 until I started
my Apprenticeship as a Fitter and Tuner with the 'Corpo' in 1958. I was with the Corpo
until we left for Australia in 1968."
Jim Paton, Australia: November 5, 2009. |
Answer
4.
John Dickson
(Parcel Boy 6)
Silverknowes, Edinburgh |
Thank you to John Dickson
who replied
Parcel Depot
"I think the photo of the parcel service
was in East London Street at the side of the Central Garage,
You can still see the cobbles on the road
today. The Parcel Dept was moved into the workshops at Shrubhill
until the new building enclosing the Paintshop, Printing and Museum was
ready."
John Dickson, Silverknowes, Edinburgh: August 29, 2010 |
Answer
5.
Ian Bremner
Fairmilehead, Edinburgh |
Thank you to Ian Bremner who
replied, agreeing that this photo would not have been taken at Shrubhill:
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Ian wrote:
Parcel Depot
"John Dickson (4 above) sure got
it right. This photo would have been taken on the north side of East
London Street, between Cochrane Terrace and the big house opposite the
bottom of Gayfield Square. I know 'cause I played there when I was a
laddie!
The building was latterly replaced by a
Telephone Exchange. Sorry, I don't have any date for that."
Ian Bremner, Fairmilehead, Edinburgh: October 5, 2010 |
Ian added:
Fairmilehead
"I now live close to the old termini of the No 11 tram at
Fairmilehead and the No 28 tram at the Braids."
Annandale Street
"I lived in Bellevue Road from 1942 until
1954 when I was a laddie. I know the Annandale Street Bus Depot
entrance on Green Street well. We used to watch the buses queuing up
to be refilled with fuel there every evening - fond memories!"
Ian Bremner, Fairmilehead, Edinburgh: October 6, 2010 |
Answer
6.
John Dickson
(Parcel Boy 6)
Silverknowes, Edinburgh |
Thank you to John Dickson
for writing again and enclosing a press cutting with a photo and caption:
"A new Parcels Office has been constructed on the East London
Street frontage of Central Garage. It is equipped with roller
conveyor for speedier processing of parcels."
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John wrote:
"This photo was in ECT Report on Income and
Expenditure, 1961, proving that the Parcel Office was in East London
Street."
John Dickson, Silverknowes, Edinburgh: August 29, 2010 |
Answer
7.
George Selvester
(Bus Driver)
Cromarty, Black Isle, Highland, Scotland |
Thank you to George
Selvester who wrote:
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John wrote:
"I was driving those buses in the late-1960s.
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I'm sure the that the Parcel Force Office was
halfway down Leith Walk (at Shrub Place) just before the lights at Pilrig
Street."
George Selvester, Cromarty, Black Isle, Highland, Scotland: February 21, 2013 |
Answer
8.
Fraser Parkinson
Pilrig, Edinburgh |
Thank you to Fraser
Parkinson who wrote:
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East London Street
"As has been previously stated, the location
of the parcel office was East London Street.
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It was located on the site of where the
Waverley Telephone Exchange is today, at 12 East London Street. The roof
seen in the distance on the top left portion of the photo is that of the
end tenement on Cochran Terrace.
Telephone Exchange
Perhaps of interest on the exchange building,
constructed on the site, is the tiled panel over the main entrance which
was made by Malkin-Johnson Tiles
The actual tiles can be attributed to the
designer Ken Clark MBE. one of London's most versatile craft potters at
the time known for collaboration with architects on bespoke designed
panels.
Date of the Photo
To help date the photograph, the exchange was
built in 1964 (with the later addition of a third floor in the 1970s).
In short, the photograph is pre the exchange
building which dates it to before 1964.
Fraser Parkinson, Pilrig, Edinburgh: August 14, 2013 |
1960-64
Answer 1 above tells us that the bus in this photo was new in 1960.
So the photo must date from
the period 1960-64, possibly near the start of this period if the
photographer wished to have a new vehicle in his photo.
Peter Stubbs, Edinburgh: August 14, 2013 |
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