Recollections
Dalry
District about half a mile SW of Haymarket |
Recollections |
1.
|
Betty McGill (née
Harvey)
Edinburgh |
-
Queueing for Teabread
|
2.
|
John Clark
Ontario, Canada |
-
Old Radio
- Radio Programmes
- Reminiscences |
3.
|
Bob Henderson
Burdiehouse, Edinburgh |
-
Radio Programmes |
4.
|
Harry Wood
Pembroke, South Wales |
-
Whitson Road |
5.
|
Betty McGill
Ontario, Canada |
-
Ronnie for Radio |
6.
|
Jim Cairns
Dunfermline, Fife, Scotland |
-
Radio Programmes |
7.
|
Danny Callaghan
Falkirk, Stirlingshire, Scotland |
-
Bobby's Bookshop |
8.
|
Dave McKinlay
New Zealand |
-
Rab Turner |
9.
|
John Clark
Ontario, Canada |
-
Local Shops
- Lawrence the Baker
- Peter's Chip Shop |
10.
|
Alan Stewart
Dumfries, Dumfries & Galloway, Scotland |
- 12
Springfield Place
- Our Family |
11.
|
John Donaldson
Bonnyrigg, Midlothian, Scotland |
- Dalry
Road |
12.
|
Douglas William Garry
Hutchison, Edinburgh |
-
School Photo
- Friends |
13.
|
Lydia Markham |
-
Home
- Freedom
- Bottles
- Local Shops
- Pigs' Bin
- School |
14.
|
Lydia Markham |
-
The Pends
- Sweet Factory
- The Subway
- The Laundry
- Happy Memories |
15.
|
Lorna Taylor
(née
Fitzsimmons)
Tranent, East
Lothian, Scotland |
-
Normal Primary School
- St Luke's Church
- Caledonian Crescent
- Library
- Baths
- Picture Houses
- Café
- Memories |
16.
|
Lorna Taylor
(née
Fitzsimmons)
Tranent, East
Lothian, Scotland |
-
Normal School
- Street Party
- The Queen
- The Tables
- Shopping
- Local Shops
- The Store: Bakers |
17.
|
Dave O'Reilly |
-
Orwell Terrace
- Home
- Church and
School
- Shops and
Neighbours |
18.
|
Simon Bates
Cannock, Staffordshire, England |
-
Dalry Lane THEN Dalry Road
- Washington Lane |
19.
|
John Archibald
Hastings, Victoria, Australia |
-
Orwell Terrace
- Home
- Church and
School
- Shops and
Neighbours |
20.
|
George Ritchie
North Gyle, Edinburgh |
-
The Back Green
- Church
and Public Baths
- Dalry Primary School
- Dalry House
- Cinema
and Industries
- Sundays
- All Gone! |
21.
|
George Ritchie
North Gyle, Edinburgh |
-
Waste Ground
- Ghost
- Cars
- Winter 1947
- School
- Comics |
22.
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George Ritchie
North Gyle, Edinburgh |
-
Bonfires
- Caedonian Place
- Rival Bonfires
- Fireworks
- The Next Day |
23.
|
George Ritchie
North Gyle, Edinburgh |
- Pigs' Bins at Caledonian Place |
24.
|
Ron Forbes
Mallorca, Spain |
- Late-1950s
- 'Rikki and The Eagles'
-
Mrs. Marr's Hotplate Café
- 'The Blackjacks'
- 'Jonny and The
Sidewalkers' |
25.
|
Lewis (Louie) Miller
Dallas, Texas, USA |
- Mimosa's
Café
- Patterson's
Newsagent
- Muir's Dairy
- Ministry of Food
- St Cuthbert's Store
- Coal from the Coal
Yard
- Recollections |
Recollections
1.
Betty McGill (née Harvey)
Edinburgh |
Thank you to Betty for leaving a message in
the gust book.
Betty wrote:
|
Queuing for Teabread
"I was
brought up in Hutchison Road.
Does anyone
remember queuing at McVities in Dalry in the dark early mornings for
auld teabread, as my dear sister and I did with our pillow slips to
put the bread and buns in?
These
were hard times but as children we never noticed it. I am now
76yrs young !!!!! and am enjoying reading all the happenings of days
gone by but not forgotten."
Betty McGill (née Harvey), Edinburgh:
December 26, 2007
|
Recollections
2.
John Clark
Ontario, Canada |
Thank you to John Clark who wrote:
|
Old Radio
"I was fascinated
with
Frank Ferri's account of the old radio days.
I remember also
that heavy accumulator I had to carry back to the shop and have it
exchanged for one that had been charging.
Our shop
was at the junction between Dundee Terrace and the approach to
Ardmillan Terrace. I forget the name.
We
had to change the big Ever Ready, battery probably about once a year
too."
|
Radio Programmes
"The radio
programmes were great:
-
Mrs Dales
Diary
-
Dick Barton
-
ITMA
-
Family Favourites
-
Saturday
Night Variety Show featuring, among others, 'Tosh the Spiv'.
I can remember so
many more, but my poor old head just cannot bring up the names. I'm
almost in tears right now just reminiscing about these great, great
old days." |
Reminiscences
"Thank you, all
of you contributors for making my life so much happier through
reminiscences." |
John Clark, Ontario, Canada: May 8,
2008 |
Recollections
3.
Bob Henderson
Burdiehouse, Edinburgh |
Thank you to Bob Henderson who wrote:
|
Radio Programmes
"Here are a few
more radio programmes to jog John Clark's memory
-
Ray's
A Laugh
- Take It
From Here
- Workers'
Playtime
and my all-time
favourite:
-
Valentine Dyall as 'The Man in Black' billed as 'Your Favourite
Story Teller'.
He told mainly
creepy stories like 'The Monkey's Paw', etc." |
Bob Henderson, Burdiehouse,
Edinburgh: May 20, 2008 |
Recollections
4.
Harry Woods
Pembroke, South Wales |
Thank you to Harry Woods for leaving a message in the
EdinPhoto guest book.
Harry left Edinburgh in 1965 to live in South Wales,
but still has good memories of his youth in Edinburgh during the war years
when he lived in Whitson Road. Harry attended Balgreen School
throughout the war years.
Harry wrote:
|
Whitson Road
"I
just spent an hour reading comments re
Betty Harvey.
I used to go for bread with my brother and
mates from Whitson on the bus every
Wednesday and Saturday, so we must have
stood in the same queue. It's nice
to remember those days."
Harry Woods, Pembroke, South Wales:
July 3, 2008 |
Recollections
5.
Betty McGill
Pembroke, South Wales |
Thank you to Betty McGill who wrote:
|
Ronnie for Radio
"Can
I add that I think the radio shop that John Clark of Canada
was
referring to in 2 above was called
'Ronnie For Radio'.
I used to work in
that shop. I was 15
yrs old. People would come in
with their accumulators to be charged.
Sometimes,
the acid would spill over from the new ones on to my overall.
They were covered in burn holes,
and the taste of it was horrible as it got on my fingers.
So, I've
lots of memories to share with Harry Wood or
others, if anybody would like to email me."
Betty McGill, Edinburgh:
July 4, 2008 |
If
you'd like to contact Betty,
please email me, then I'll pass
on her email address to you.
- Thank you.
Peter Stubbs: July 3, 2008 |
Recollections
6.
Jim Cairns
Dunfermline, Fife, Scotland |
Thank you to Jim Cairns who followed up
"Recollections 5' above by writing:
|
Radio Programmes
"Can you
imagine nowadays what would happen if you
were caught sending your children to carry
heavy glass batteries, full of acid to the local shop to change
them?!!
Your contributors
mentioned old radios, and old radio programmes.
I remember:
-
'Down at the
Mains'
-
'Tammy the Troot'
read by Lavinia Derwent
-
'The
MacFlannels'
-
Jimmy Logan,
whose catch-phrase was 'Sausages is the boys!'
on a programme I can't remember the name of.
Readers may enjoy
this
Whirligig web site.
It's a terrific site that gives
information on old radio programmes, and lets you hear clips
of many of them. There's also a TV section on the site."
Jim Cairns: Dunfermline,
Fife, Scotland: April 22, 2009 |
Recollections
7.
Danny Callaghan
Falkirk, Stirlingshire,
Scotland |
Thank you to Danny Callaghan who wrote
|
Bobbie's Bookshop
"Bobbie's
Bookshop was, I think, at 181 Dalry Road. I
stayed in a flat almost above it, on the corner
of for West End Place and Dalry Road
from 1964 to 1970. The flat was No
5. There was a butcher below as well.
Bobbie's
was a Book Exchange. It was very
popular. You took back books you had
read and got credit, then you selected
other books. Who says recycling is
new?
Bobbie's was also
a newsagent.
I remember that Bobbie did not open to sell
newspapers on new years day 1967. It was
a Sunday. He was blacklisted by the
Sunday Mail and Daily Record who refused to supply him papers for a
long time. Most of the locals supported him and switched to buying
other papers - the Record's
loss."
Danny Callaghan, Falkirk,
Stirlingshire: November 4, 2009 |
Recollections
8.
Dave McKinlay
New Zealand |
Dave McKinlay left this message in the EdinPhoto
guest book
|
Rab Turner
"I'd like to
contact Robert [Rab] Turner, originally from Prestonfield. He
would be about 69 years old now. He worked in Binns workshops
Caledonian Crescent .as a carpet & lino layer from about 1955 up
until I left for New Zealand in 1965.
He married Thelma
and had a daughter, born about 1963. Does anyone know of him or his
whereabouts? A reply would be appreciated. Dave McKinlay"
Dave McKinlay, New Zealand:
Message posted in EdinPhoto guest book: January 25, 2010 |
Reply to Dave?
If you'd like to contact Dave,
please email me, then I'll pass on your message to him.
Thank you.
Peter Stubbs, Edinburgh:
January 28, 2010 |
Recollections
9.
John Clark
Ontario, Canada |
Thank you to John Clark for writing again about life
in Dundee Street.
John wrote:
|
Local Shops
"I
remember the small shops, the local shops,
the shops that kept us alive and well. Where
I lived in Dundee Street, Yeaman Place was
directly across from my stair at number 146.
At the bottom of Yeaman Place there was 3 or 4 shops next to
each other, but the two main shops that kept the whole surrounding
community alive was Peter's chip shop and
Lawrence the baker.
Lawrence, the Baker
"Every morning, from about the age
of 6 or 7 onwards, I would run across to Lawrence the baker and buy
4 well fired rolls. I think they cost
about a penny or a penny ha'penny each,
freshly baked.
During the summer holidays from school, I would have to hurry,
and get my pals out of the house at 11.45am, and break up our
Monopoly game, to run over to Lawrence for 2 meat pies, one for my
Dad and one for me.
My Mum was at work, and my Dad came home from McEwans brewery
along the road at noon. He would
open up his pie, take all the meat out (mince) and discard the
pastry, then make a bread sandwich with the meat.
What a guy, I loved him. Just before New
Year everyone would hand in their ashet pans to Lawrence, and your
name would be stuck on the pan.
Later, you would later pick up a delicious steak pie for New
Year's Dinner.
I don't know
if the bakery is still going, but it was a
terrific bakery.
Peter's Chip Shop
Oh,
my goodness the memories. When I
first started going in there for my Mum, again about 7 years old,
it was amazing.
I don't know the reason, but chip shops
always had very high serving counters. When
I went in in the early years, they had to look over the counter to
see me. I could barely reach the
counter with my fingertips.
Then as the years progressed, I was
starting to see what all the big secrets where about. When you went
over on a Friday about 5 o' clock, there
would be a long line up. We seemed to have
more patience in these days, because of
the constant hardships of the war.
I think a fish
supper was about 10 pence in old money.
For our family, I would typically order 2 single fish, and
either fourpence worth of chips or maybe sixpence worth. The total
would be about one and sixpence."
|
John Clark, Ontario, Canada:
February 24, 2010 |
Recollections
10.
Alan Stewart
Dumfries, Dumfries & Galloway,
Scotland |
Thank you
to Alan Stewart who wrote: |
12
Springfield Place
"There has not yet been much mention of
Springwell Place on the EdinPhoto web site, so I'm sending this photo of
my Gran, Christina Stewart standing outside her home at No. 12, around
1930.
©
Our
Family
My Stewart family were resident at 12
Springwell Place from around 1900 to around 1960. We were quite
poor, so there are not many photos around.
No. 12 was a one-bed flat which, even in the
1950s, held three generations of our family for a while:
- my grandparents
- their daughter Jessie and her
husband Frank, a Canadian sailor who was on leave from the WW2 Russian
convoys when they met.
- their two children.
My earliest recollections are of sitting on my
dad's knee in the 1950s, hearing him call an old fellow sitting opposite
him 'dad', and saying to him: 'He cant be dad. You are dad'.
He was, in fact, my grandfathers
brother, who had married the
wife of his late brother Hendry
(my grandfather) after Hendry had been killed in the Somme in 1916.
He was a bookie's runner amongst other things. He spent most of the
time sitting in his chair, smoking a pipe; at least he did when he
had visitors."
Alan Stewart, Dumfries, Dumfries &
Galloway, Scotland: October 28, 2010
|
Recollections
11.
John Donaldson
Bonnyrigg, Midlothian,
Scotland
|
Thank you
to John Donaldson who wrote: |
Family
"I resided at 197 Dalry Road, Edinburgh from
about 1944 until 1953 and attended Dalry Primary School.
My mother was employed at Dunlop,
the Bakers in Dalry Road opposite the Haymarket
Picture House. My father was employed at
Airlite Engineers in Duff Street."
Request for Picture
"I am looking for a picture of the 197 Dalry
Road. It was located directly opposite
Dalry School. I believe the building was
destroyed circa 1977. Does anybody have such a
picture?"
John Donaldson, Bonnyrigg, Midlothian,
Scotland: January 4, 2011
|
Reply
to John
If you know of any pictures of
197 Dalry Road, please email me, then I'll pass on your message to John.
Thank you.
Peter Stubbs, Edinburgh:
January 8, 2010: |
Recollections
12.
Douglas William Garry
Hutchison, Edinburgh |
Douglas
William Garry wrote: |
School Photo
"About a year ago, I submitted this
photo of my class at Dalry Primary School in Edinburgh, taken
1956-ish."
Photo
1.
©
"Shortly
after, another photo of a Dalry school class appeared on the
EdinPhoto web site, this one taken in1957-58."
Photo
2.
©
|
Friends
"Some months later, I
spoke to my good friend, Peter Stewart, about how photos and comments on the
web site had brought people together.
The following day, he
looked up the web site then told me that he had found himself, 3rd
from the right in the back row of Photo 2.
After 25-30 years of
friendship and working together, we had never realised that we had
been at the same school, just one year apart. He had been one
year behind me at the school and in my sister's class. How
small the world has become!"
|
Douglas William Garry, Hutchison, Edinburgh: January
23, 2012 |
Recollections
13.
Lydia Markham (née
Davis)
Edinburgh |
Thank you
to Lydia Markham who wrote: |
Home
"I,
too, enjoy reading everyone's memories of living
in Dalry. I was born in 1961 at 41 Caledonian
Crescent and was one of 7 children. Looking back I don't know how my
parents coped in a one-bedroom flat with no
bathroom or kitchen. Things were not
always easy but they left us all with so many happy, loving memories."
Freedom
"In the 1960s,
we were allowed so much freedom. We walked
everywhere and thought nothing of setting off for the day and returning at
tea time. We went to all the parks in the area and beyond, Saughton,
White, Roseburn, Princes Street and Harrison Park. We also ventured to
the 'tips' , the Water
of Leith at Dean Village and Arthur Seat."
Bottles
"At Binns Warehouse
(?)
a lovely man we called 'Jimmy the
Juice Bottle Man' used to collect all his
workmates' bottles and stash them for us behind
the rubbish bins."
Local Shops
"The local corner shops were the hub of
the neighbourhood in those days. John and Chris Kuriluk with
their handsome son Alex owned
a shop and across the street from Dot
and Jim's shop.
I have fond memories of both shops. I delivered Sunday papers for
Chris. She had a bacon roll and coffee
ready for me before setting off and huge bag of sweets and money when I
finished.
I was once in Dot and Jim's shop when it
was robbed. I alerted them and for my
bravery they surprised me with the biggest most beautiful doll. This
particular doll was the centre piece of their Christmas window display and
every girl wanted it from Santa - such a
wonderful, wonderful surprise and such kindness."
Pigs' Bin
"We used to also raid the
Pigs' Bin at McVitie's.
If the cakes were not too stale, the women
turned a blind eye. If they were off,
they would shout at us to leave them alone. I
only realise this now!"
School
"I attended
'Normal Primary School'. It later changed its name to 'Orwell
Primary School'. I remember my mum
sending me to school with trousers on. Girls at that time were not
allowed to wear trousers. I was threatened with being sent home and told
them my mum didn't have anything else for me to wear.
At break, my friends agreed to wear their
trousers to school next day, arguing they can't send us all home. They
didn't send us all home and not long after girls were allowed to wear
trousers, as long as they were dark. Feminism
at an early age!
Lydia Markham, Edinburgh: February 12+16, 2012
|
Recollections
14.
Lydia Markham (née
Davis)
Edinburgh |
Thank you
to Lydia for writing again
with more memories of Dalry
Lydia wrote: |
The Pends
"Kelly's
Engineering Works was entered via the pend next to our stair. The pend is
still
there but where Kelly's works and Binns
warehouse used to be, it is all now one large
housing complex.
That pend was where we sheltered when it was raining.
We played in there and instinctively knew to stand to the side when
the lorries came and went. We also used to squeeze under the gate at
Davie's pend a few stairs up.
Up this pend was a woodmill type of place. We used to love exploring,
and when the railway stopped being used we used to have hours of fun
exploring that and all the disused buildings,
making gang huts."
Sweet Factory
"I remember my brothers
and sister coming home with boxes of sweets from a sweet factory that
closed down. I can't remember the name of the factory.
The Subway
"My dad worked in the Rubber Mill and most
dinner times, from an early age,
we used to run up the subway to meet him. We were delighted to see him
and him us. We rushed to greet his outstretched arms with
delighted yells and he'd pick us up and burl us round.
This was a highlight as my dad worked long hours and when he wasn't
working he was catching up with his sleep.
The subway was dark, dank and creepy at the time and
we were not allowed up there when it was dark."
The Laundry
"I
also remember my mum struggling up and down the subway stairs with a huge
piles
of washing in her tin bath going to the laundry in Murdoch Terrace
(?)
Given my dad was working 24/7 it was hard for
my mum to get someone to watch 7 children while
she went to the laundry. More often than not we'd have to go with her and
wait in the pram area for what seemed like hours.
Children were not allowed in the laundry.
We played with everyone's
old washing prams, and got into lots of trouble
from people whenever they saw us playing with their pram."
Happy Memories
"Ach,
I could go on! I have so many many happy
memories of a wonderful childhood."
Lydia Markham, Edinburgh: February 16, 2012
|
Recollections
15.
Lorna Taylor (née
Fitzsimmons)
Tranent, East
Lothian, Scotland |
Lorna Taylor (née Fitzsimmons) wrote: |
Normal Primary School
"Oh! How some of the comments above
brought back memories. I was born at 36 Caledonian Crescent.
Like Lydia Markham (Orwell
School, Recollections 1) I
too attended Normal primary school before it became Orwell.
It was associated with St Luke's
Church.
St Luke's Church
"The church
was just opposite our house in Caledonian Crescent.
It held a youth club on a Monday evening but, in order to go to it,
you had to attend Sunday Evensong! This we did,
albeit very reluctantly. Our usual church
was St Brides` in Orwell
Terrace."
Caledonian Crescent
"At what would have been
No.32 Caledonian Crescent was Willie Boland's
cobblers shop and next to that was my Dad's joiners workshop which went
around the corner into Orwell Place.
Opposite that was Shaws` the general shop which seemed to sell
everything, and next to that was the pend where
there was a removal firm (called Lunn's, I
think).
Of course the area in front of Binns'
Repository, where the pigs bins were kept, was a great play area and many
a good game of rounders was played there."
Library
"There was the library up the subway in
Dundee Street. I can still recall that
special smell and the silence that met you when you opened the door
- not to be had in to-days libraries!"
Baths
"Then, of course,
we had Dalry Baths where we not only went to swim but also to have a bath.
It cost something like 1 shilling (5p) if the
water was turned on by the attendant outside the bathroom or about 1/6d (71/2p)
if the taps were in the room for you to turn on yourself
- such luxury!
Picture Houses
"Our Saturday
mornings were spent at The Scotia Picture House - they
weren't called cinemas then! We also had
The Tivoli and The Roxy. We were spoilt
for choice.
Café
"Does anyone remember the Café on Dalry
Road, just around from Orwell
Terrace, where we used to 'hang out',
listening to the juke box while drinking our Vantas and thinking we
were really 'hip'?"
UPDATE: The cafe was Mimosa's. Please see
Recollections 26 below.
Memories
There wasn't a lot of money around then,
but we knew how to have fun and it was a great place to grow up.
I'd love to see some of my childhood friends again now."
Lorna Taylor (née
Fitzsimmons), Tranent, East Lothian, Scotland: May 18, 2012
|
Recollections
16.
Lorna Taylor (née
Fitzsimmons)
Tranent, East
Lothian, Scotland |
Thank you to Lorna Taylor for writing again, this time
sending photos of Normal School, Dalry and of a Street Party in Caledonian
Crescent in 1953, for the Queen's Coronation.
Lorna wrote |
Normal School
Around 1958-59
"Here is a photo of
my class at Normal School, Dalry, taken probably around 1958-59-ish.".
© |
Street Party
The Queen
"The photo above may be of interest in
this year of the Diamond Jubilee. Does anyone remember the
Caledonian Crescent street party to celebrate the Queen's Coronation in
1953?"
The Tables
"I'm 2nd from the right at the very front.
I've just noticed the big bandage around my knee!
I'm not sure, but I think the tables were set
up between Shaws` shop and the Baths. I do remember that there was
an open- backed lorry in front of the baths where the Highland dancers
performed." |
Shopping
Local Shops
"Other shops that I remember are:
- Paul's the chemist.
- Banks haberdashery (where I had
a Saturday job).
- a newsagent's shop which, for some
reason, I think was owned by Paul's too, but I could be way wrong on
that."
The Store - Bakers
"On the corner of
Orwell Terrace and Dalry Road, there was 'The Store' bakers, where I was
sent for a 'pan loaf'. The loaf was wrapped in tissue paper and was
usually still warm.
The smell was so good that by the time I got
it home there would be a big hole in the side where I'd been picking at
it! Oh! Happy days!"
Lorna Taylor (née
Fitzsimmons), Tranent, East Lothian, Scotland: May 19, 2012
|
Recollections
17.
Dave O'Reilly
Edinburgh
|
Thank you to Dave O'Reilly who wrote: |
Orwell Terrace
Home
"I was born and grew
up at 1 Orwell Terrace on the first floor,
middle flat:
-
Miss Binnie lived on one side
- I forget the name
of the family that lived
on the other side.
- Above us,
lived the Browns and their son.
He was a singer with the stage name,
Lorne Gibson.
Church and School
"My Dad was the
Church Officer at St Brides and I went to Normal Practising School
in Orwell Place.
- The school
was Scottish Episcopalian.
- St Brides
was Church of Scotland
so that created some confusion for me."
Shops and Neighbours
"I remember:
- The Battery
Shop.
-
The Store Bakers.
-
The Store Grocers.
-
Leadbetter's
Bakers.
-
Bobby’s Bookshop.
- Isa's
shop, with a fruit machine on a milk crate.
-
Mrs Young looking out her window.
-
delivering milk and rolls for Hermiston's.
- 'poor
oots' at weddings.“
Dave O'Reilly, Edinburgh: November 26, 2013
|
Recollections
18.
Simon Bates
Cannock,
Staffordshire, England
|
Thank you to Simon Bates who wrote: |
Dalry Lane
then
Dalry Road
"My father is the
driving force behind my investigations. He was born at 104 Dalry
Lane in Edinburgh in 1936 and lived in Dalry Road for several years until
he left for a life in the RAF, then made a home in Cannock, Staffordshire,
England."
Washington Lane
"My grandmother (my
father's mother) wa:
- a dynamo polisher,
somewhere in Edinburgh, and
- a house servant for
a family that lived in Washington Lane
My father has fond memories
of his mother, but cannot remember who she worked for in Washington Lane.
So, I'm trying to find information about the families who lived there in
1935.
Perhaps, through the power
of the web, I'll get some answers."
Simon Bates, Cannock, Staffordshire,
England: January 8 + 10, 2013 |
Simon: I've
looked up a couple of copies of the Edinburgh & Leith Post Office
Directories. I don't have the 1935 edition here, but I do have
editions for 1930 and 1935.
Both list Washington Lane in a short section that
also covers Washington Cottages and Street. Please see below.
1930
Washington
Cottages, Lane and Street
Dalry Road
1.
Falconer, Miss
3. Hook,
Mrs
3.
Kendall, Mrs Margaret
Washington Lane
Johnston Bros
Denholm, AS &
Sons
Grieve,
Nathaniel (William Laing) Builder & Joiner
Bonnyman, James |
1940
Washington
Cottages, Lane and Street
Dalry Road
1.
Kendal, Mrs Margaret
2.
Cowan, Mrs F
Washington Lane
Cabin Products
Co
Denholm, AS &
Sons
Grieve, Nathaniel
(William Laing) Builder & Joiner |
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Recollections
19.
John Archibald
Hastings, Victoria,
Australia |
Thank you to John Archibald who wrote: |
Home and School
"I
used to live in Orwell Terrace, at No 7 or 11.
I first went to Orwell School. That
must have been about 1939."
Memories
"I
remember:
-
Hermiston’s
shop and the Store’s bakery shop.
- being in the Life Boys at St. Bride’s
Church
-
going for a
swim at Dalry Baths
-
walking
up the subway to see
my grandparents at No.1 West Fountain
Place.
- the Oil Cake Works at the bottom of west
fountain place and all the mill workers coming down the street when they
finished work.
Grandad
"My Grandad
was a cooper at Youngers'
Brewery. He served his apprenticeship at
McEwans. His family lived in Yeaman Place.
He was in his 70s when he retired.
They kept him
on to repair what wooden barrels they still used after
they had started putting the beer in steel barrels."
Parson's Green
"We shifted
to Wolseley Place and I went to
Parson’s Green School.
Emigration
"I finished Finished my schooling at Moray
House, then came out to Australia in 1950 with
my parents.
Our
family were Hearts supporters! P.S., remember.
Kind regards to all in Dalry.
John Archibald, Hastings, Victoria,
Australia: April 8, 2014 |
Recollections
20.
George Ritchie
North Gyle, Edinburgh |
Thank you to George Ritchie who wrote:
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The Back Green
"I have
memories from the age of five
(in 1945) to 15 of growing up in
Caledonian Place, Dalry. As children,
we played all the usual street games as,
elsewhere, but there was one big bonus,
the Back Green.
After the Air-raid
shelters were taken down,
a long strip of land was left. It was affectionately known as
'The Longie'.
It served as a Football, Cricket and
Rounders pitch."
Church and
Public Baths
"At the top of Caledonian Road
was the Congregational Church Hall where the Cub/Scouts were held on a
Tuesday evening. Down the Crescent,
was the Dalry Public Baths."
Dalry Primary School
"Into
Orwell Place,
there was Dalry Primary School,
staffed with dedicated Gentlewoman Teachers.
I remember:
-
Miss Simmons was the
Head.
-
Miss Munro the
Deputy Head.
- Miss
Ferguson was my
favourite teacher. Her top floor
south-facing classroom was
bright, and she let me be one of the
class story tellers."
Dalry House
"Next door, in Dalry
House, was the jewel in the crown, Dalry Youth Club.
It had a Woodwork Room and a gym that was used for:
- Boxing
- Football
- Snooker
- Table Tennis
- Dancing (with girls)."
Cinema and
Industries
"Finely,
to complete the circular walk around the streets, there was the
Haymarket Cinema. I remember the
smells from the Rubber Mill and the Distillery, every day except
on a Sunday."
Sundays
"Sunday was a quiet peaceful
day. After Bible Class, we would go for long walks
or take the tram to Joppa.
The old Scottish Sabbath
was severe by today's
standards, but that never bothered me."
All gone!
"Now,
it's all gone!
It's very sad!
-
Caledonian
Place is now 'jam packed'
with cars
- The
back green is overgrown and neglected.
- The Church Hall is
flats
- The School,
Youth Club and Cinema are
closed.
These are
some of my post-war childhood memories
from a time when childhood lasted
until age fifteen (unthinkable nowadays).
Childhood came to an end
for me with my first girlfriend,
Margo.
Everybody thinks their
era was the best. Mine had no drugs little vandalism and lasted for ten
years!"
George Ritchie, North Gyle, Edinburgh:
August 18, 2014 (2 emails)
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Recollections
21.
George Ritchie
North Gyle, Edinburgh |
Thank you to George Ritchie for writing again,
telling me some more of his memories of 1945.
George wrote:
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Waste Ground
"There was
a large area of waste ground,
about 100 x 200 meters, opposite Orwell Place, where there is a statue of
two men rolling the whisky cask today. We called it the
'The Garricks'.
The older boys built a cycle
speedway track there, and from time to time
there were fun fares there.
It was not until many years later
that I heard it was originally the site of a
company, the Garrick Crane Works.
(Maybe this could be verified.)"
Ghost
"Of
course, no self-respecting big house would be
without it's resident ghost. Dalry House
had 'The Grey (or
Gray) Lady'. I
never actually saw her myself, but we kids did
not stay long outside the house at night."
Cars
"It's
now hard to imagine
Caledonian Place without cars,
but in the mid-1940s, I remember there being only one car there. It
was a pre-war American Chrysler
(like the one in the movies).
It was my grandfathers taxi.
My father did the night shift on it..
In these days, a Hackney stile cab was
not a requirement.
My grandfather had a garage in
Duff Street Lane where I used to play.
Once, I was given a tyre to roll.
When I took it back to 'Caley'
all my pals wanted a shot
with it."
Winter 1947
"The
winter of 1947 was the coldest on record for years.
I think it lasted till March, but for we
kids it was a winter wonderland.
The snow lasted for ages and with
no cars around the street, it was a playground
for sledges and slides."
School
"At
our primary school there was a teacher Miss
Smart. She wore a blue smock.
(They all wore smocks.)
She gave us a project to make a Christmas
Card, and I was chastised for writing
Xmas instead of Christmas.
Even today, some 65 years later i don't
write Xmas."
Comics
"From
Dobson's newsagents, on
the corner of West Park Place, I
bought the first edition of the Eagle Comic
out on Friday's) as well the Adventure,
Wizard, Hotspur, Dandy
and Beano.
There were
also plenty of American DC comics from the
'golden age'. These
originally came from the American Air Force
Base at Kirknewton. They sell for about
£10 to £15 a copy today, and
I had dozens of them.
George Ritchie, North Gyle, Edinburgh:
August 18, 2014 (2 emails)
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Recollections
22.
George Ritchie
North Gyle, Edinburgh |
Thank you to George Ritchie for writing again with
more recollections of Caledonian Place.
George wrote:
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Bonfires
Caledonian Place
"Twice
a year, we had bonfires at Caledonian Place,
Victoria Day
in the spring and of course November 5.
The bonfires were at the junction
of Caledonian Place and Caledonian Crescent. At
that time, the streets were still paved with
granite setts (cobbles) so they were able to
withstand the heat
It was great fun collecting for
the 'bonie' anything
that would burn from all the shops and
businesses around Dalry."
Rival Bonfires
"Every
day the bonfire would get bigger. To guard
against marauders from rival bonfires who would
rob from ours, we were armed with a
'cudgel'
- a
stout piece of timber -
but
it was all in good fun and no one was ever hurt.."
Fireworks
"When
the flames were at their height, the heat was
intense. I remember the fireworks
(squibs) that you could buy
then, individually:
-
Penny bangers( Little
Demon)
- Roman
Candles
-
Jumping Jacks
-
Rockets
(fired from a milk bottles)
-
Sparklers.
We used to throw the bangers
into the bonfire (Health and Safety,
eat your heart out!)"
The Next Day
"In the
morning the bonfire was still smoldering and we
would put a tattie in and leave it till it was burned black. It
tasted terrible, raw on the inside and burned on the outside.
Later in the day
the fire was was gone,
leaving just a black circle on the road.
Of course it was all dangerous,
but so were a lot of things then.
We never looked on it as being unsafe (just as
well) as was a different, long gone age!"
George Ritchie, North Gyle, Edinburgh:
September 23, 2014
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Recollections
23.
George Ritchie
North Gyle, Edinburgh |
Thank you to George Ritchie for writing again with
another memory of Caledonian Place.
George wrote:
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Pigs' Bins
Caledonian Place
"Another of my memories of Caledonian Place,
around 1953, is of the 'Pigs' Bins' there. They were supplied by the
council.
They were large alloy bins with
lids, and to stop them being knocked over they
fitted in to a circular concrete ring.
In these days everybody had coal
fires and burned their waste, so
this was attempt to get householders to recycle
their waste (vegetables peelings etc.) and
so to reduce smoke pollution.
Unfortunately the scheme did not
last. Perhaps people were set in their
ways and it was ahead of it's time. It
shows that recycling is not new."
George Ritchie, North Gyle, Edinburgh:
November 7, 2014
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Recollections
24.
Ron Forbes
Mallorca, Spain |
Thank you to Ron Forbes who wrote:
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Late-1950s
'Rikki and The
Eagles'
"I fondly remember days in
Gorgie & Dalry in the late-1950s.
I played in a local group called
'Rikki and The Eagles', doing:
-
Sighthill
-
local dances
-
Weddings
-
Dalry House
-
Murrayfield Ice Rink
- etc.
The group were:
- Myself and Derek Burton
on guitars
- Reg Gray on drums and
- Graham White on vocals"
Marr's Hotplate Café
"Our favourite spot was Mrs.
Marr's Hotplate Café in Dalry Road. She paid the musicians in Coca
Cola. "
'The Blackjacks'
and
'Jonny and The Sidewalkers'
"Our favourites there were 'The
Blackjacks'. Being guitarists our hero was Frankie Connor -
also Aly Dawson from 'Jonny and The Sidewalkers' over at the Locarno.
Strangely enough, I met him 15
years later when we were both playing in bands in Durban, South Africa.
I was courting a girl from Wardlaw Place then so spent many cheap nights
out at the Tivoli. There was no 'going out to restaurants or pubs'
in those days!"
George Ritchie, North Gyle, Edinburgh:
November 7, 2014
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Recollections
25.
Lewis (Louie)
Miller
Dallas, Texas, USA
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Thank you to Lewis (Louie) Miller who wrote:
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Mimosa's
Café
"Lorna Taylor (née Fitzsimmons)
asked, in her Recollections 16 above,
about the name of the cafe on Dalry Road.
It was called 'Mimosas' and the
lady who owned it had a juke box. The furniture was very modern
and brightly covered. Mrs. Ledbetter sold meringues as well as bean and
mashed potato pies."
Patterson's Newsagent
"Patterson's the newsagent was
close, at West End Place. There, you could by fireworks and scraps
for the girls, as well as Pasha cigarettes"
Muir's Dairy
"I delivered butcher meat on a
Saturday for Muir's but got fired when my chum jumped off his milk
delivery cart into my butchers basket and crushed four eggs that should
have been delivered to Downfield. End of that career!"
Ministry of Food
"We queued
at the Ministry of Food at Dalry School with our ration books to get
powdered milk and orange juice."
St Cuthbert's Store
"I remember St. Cuthbert's
grocery store. I used my store number to get the the 'messages' and then
I stood around a central column and listened to the women sharing
gossip.
The end of this boring and
dreaded weekly monotony was when the money for the groceries was sent to
accounts receivable in a wooden ball, then the ball came back again with
the change."
Coal from the Coal Yard
"Word would go out out that
coal was being sold at the foot of Morrison Street in the coal yard and
I was sent there with the 'wash-house pram' to stand in a long line to
get some."
Recollections
"These recollections are just
amazing, and I have enjoyed being taken back to my childhood days when I
lived at 143 Dalry Road."
Lewis (Louie) Miller, Dallas, Texas, USA:
18 February 2019
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