Recollections
The Grassmarket
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Recollections |
1.
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Graeme Charles Munro
Adelaide, South Australia,
|
Grassmarket + Gypsy Brae,
Granton
Home
in the Grassmarket
Causeys |
1.
Reply 1
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George Smith
Nanaimo, Vancouver Island, British Colombia,
Canada |
Gardens |
2.
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Peter Nolan
Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada |
The
Clock
Wartime |
3.
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Peter Nolan
Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada |
Musicians |
3.
Reply 1
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Katie Hardie
Edinburgh |
Musicians |
4.
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Tom Heaney
Tenerife
and reply from
Julie
McCusker
|
Old
Pals |
5. |
Jim Di
Mambro
South Africa |
Tom
Heaney |
6. |
Jim Di Mambro
South Africa |
Dex
Hennant |
7. |
Jim Di Mambro
South Africa |
My
Great Grandfather
Grassmarket Musicians |
8. |
George Stewart
South Edinburgh |
Barrie's Mission |
9. |
Bob Sinclair
Queensland, Australia |
Daft
Jimmy |
10. |
Mick O'Rourke
Clermiston, Edinburgh
|
My
Family
Christmas
Barrie's Summer Outings |
11.
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Graeme Charles Munro
Adelaide, South Australia,
|
Barrie's Summer Outings |
12.
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Margaret Cooper
Colindale, North London, England
|
Return to the Grassmarket
Hostels, Tenements
and Shops
Punters
Coal Briquettes |
13.
|
Cathy Luppino
(née
Cormack)
Pennsylvania, USA
|
Memories
View
from the Vennel Steps
Bonfires
Books |
14.
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Avril Finlayson
Smith
Strathdale, Bendigo, Victoria, USA
|
Living
in the Grassmarket
Neighbours
The
Beehive
Return
Visit to Edinburgh |
15.
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Cathy Luppino
(née
Cormack)
Pennsylvania, USA
|
Grassmarket - No.17 and No.25
Work |
16.
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Liz Burnett
Edinburgh
|
Our
Family
Neighbours
Leaving the Grassmarket
Memories |
17. |
Cathy Luppino
(née
Cormack)
Pennsylvania, USA
|
Reply to Liz Burnett |
18.
|
Liz Burnett
Edinburgh
|
Our
Family
Neighbours
Leaving the Grassmarket
Memories |
19. |
Ian McArthur
Melbourne, Victoria, Australia |
Homes
Victoria Street
Play in the Grassmarket
Schools
Boys'
Club
Pubs
West
Port
Remember Me? |
20. |
Ian McArthur
Melbourne, Victoria, Australia |
Barrie's Mission
-
Thanks to Micky
-
Mission for the Homeless
-
Sunday Services
-
Fitba'
- Bus Outing
-
Father Ronan
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21. |
Ian McArthur
Melbourne, Victoria, Australia |
Irish
Workers
-
Cheap Hotels
-
The Week
-
The Orange March
Grassmarket Characters
-
Daft Jimmy
- Cane Man
-
Tuesday Lost
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22. |
Ian McArthur
Melbourne, Victoria, Australia |
The Meti Pen |
23. |
Wilma Tomerlin
(née Gibson)
Southern California, USA |
The Foot of the Vennel |
24. |
Darryn McGreevy
Edinburgh |
Bookie's Runner
Betting Shop |
25. |
Mimi
Olds
Rolla Missouri, USA |
My Family |
26. |
Darryn McGreevy
Edinburgh |
PC Basher Thompson |
27. |
Elma
Gauson
(née Thomson)
Turriff, Aberdeenshire, Scotland |
PC Basher Thompson |
28. |
Elma
Gauson
(née Thomson)
Turriff, Aberdeenshire, Scotland |
PC Basher Thompson |
29. |
Bryan
Gauson
Turriff, Aberdeenshire, Scotland |
PC Basher Thompson |
30. |
Meg Reilly |
The Grassmarket Mission |
Recollections
1.
Graeme Charles Munro
Adelaide, South Australia, |
Grassmarket and Gypsy Brae, Granton
1930s - 1950s
Thank you to Graeme Charles Munro, Adelaide, South Australia, formerly
of
Edinburgh, who wrote after seeing a picture of the Grassmarket in the
early 1900s:
©
|
Graeme wrote:
Home in the Grassmarket
"I was born in the house just
above the carriage roof on the right-hand side in 1936.
I was only four when I left, I am
70 now, and live in Australia. Having been here for 40 years."
Causeys
[Cobble Stones]
"And do you know, the stones in
the road were all removed in the late 'fifties and dumped at a place
called Gypsy Brae along from Granton Harbour, millions of them for weeks
and weeks.
It was my brother's job to
make sure the trucks dumped them in the right place. He got fed up with
the job eventually and signed on in the army for 22 years.
The cossies were actually
white granite."
Graeme Charles Munro, Adelaide, South Australia.
18 August 2005 |
Causeys
'Causeys' were the granite setts, or cobble stones, that once paved
many of the streets of Edinburgh.
Gypsy Brae is now part of Edinburgh's Waterfront development. The
road is now closed, but the line of the road can just be seen on the
enlargement of the
map below, running north-south between the trees to the west of the
three gasometers - towards the upper-left corner of the map.
© |
Thank you to George Smith, British Colombia, Canada, for the further
comments on 'Causeys'.
Gardens
Causeys or causeway setts
were a source of garden paths and patios when they were lifted from
the streets.
George Smith,
Nanaimo, Vancouver Island, British Colombia, Canada
George has also provided an interesting comment on the causeys in
Chamber Street. |
Recollections
2.
Peter Nolan
Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada |
Thank you to Peter Nolan for sending me his memories of growing up in
the Grassmarket. Peter tells me that he was born
in 1936, his father's parents were Irish and his mother's parents were
Italian.
Peter was born at 54b Grassmarket, Edinburgh, and emigrated to Canada
around 1968. Recalling his early years in the Grassmarket, Peter
wrote: |
The Clock
"When you came down the Herriot
Bridge to the centre of the northern side of the Grassmarket, about 20
yards to the left there was a stairway that went up three flights. People
lived along that top floor.
At the end of the corridor, there
was a wooden ladder where I, as a small boy, would climb up then push
open a trap door, then we entered into the clock itself.
It was just
a wonderful place to be brought up." |
Wartime
"During the War Years the
German Prisoners of War would repair the cobble streets in the
Grassmarket and many of the mothers in the area would take flasks of
tea and sandwiches to the prisoners.
In
the middle of the Grassmarket there were two air-raid shelters." |
Peter Nolan, Canada,: March 3 + 4 +14, 2008 |
Recollections
3.
Peter Nolan
Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada |
Thank you to Peter Nolan for writing again, and sending me this photo
of his father and three other musicians in the Grassmarket:
Musicians
© |
Peter Nolan, Canada,: March 14, 2008 |
Recollections
3.
Reply
1.
Katie Hardie |
Thank you to Katie Hardie for writing after seeing this photo sent to
me by Peter Nolan, including his father as one of four Grassmarket
Musicians.
©
Katie wrote: |
Grassmarket Musicians
"I
have a long family history of Grassmarket roots.
The man on the other sax in
this photo is my grandfather's brother's son, Laurence Fenelly."
Katie Hardie: 3 June 2018 (2 emails) |
Recollections
4.
Tom (Tam, Tommy) Heaney
Tenerife |
Tom Heaney wrote:
Old Pals
"I was raised in the
Grassmarket Edinburgh from 1942 and left there when I got married in
1960. I'm looking for some of my old pals:
-
Dougie
McCusker
-
James Conway
-
Jamesie and Eric Thom
-
lots of others.
I now live in Tenerife.
Can you help?
Tom Heaney, Tenerife: April 10, 2008 |
If you'd like to contact Tom (Tam, Tommy)
please email me, then I'll pass on your message to him.
- Peter Stubbs: April
10, 2008 |
Answer 1
Thank you to Julie McCusker, grand-daughter of
Dougie McCusker for passing on the sad news about Dougie.
Tom:
You appear to have changed your email address
since you contacted me a couple of years ago, so I cannot send
Julie's reply direct to you. However, I hope you find it here.
Here is what she wrote to you:
"I'm sorry to say(if it is
the same person as you asked about) but my grandad died a few years
ago from cancer of the throat. I'm sorry to be the barer
of bad news, but my grandad lived a good, happy, and how can we say
it semi- healthy life, and when he passed away he had his family
round him.
Anyway, I wish you all the
luck for finding the rest of your old friends."
Julie McCusker:
January 19, 2010 |
Recollections
5.
Jim Di Mambro
South Africa |
Jim Di Mambro read the message from Tom Heaney and wrote:
Tom Heaney
"I remember Tom singing in
the clubs and he should remember me, Jim Di Mambro, Butch and The
Bandits.
Tam also used tae collect
money for some clothing shop. I would love tae here from him.
If ye read this Tam,
please email me."
Jim Di Mambro, South Africa: May 29, 2008 |
Here is
Jim's email address for anybody who would like to contact him.
|
Recollections
6.
Jim Di Mambro
South Africa |
Jim Di Mambro wrote:
Dex Hennant
"The
first real band we started in Edinburgh was with Dex Hannant,
We played Shadows numbers
I've now contacted Dex had and had a
reply from him. .Fantastic, after 35 years"
Jim Di Mambro, South Africa: June 5, 2008 |
Here is
Jim's email address for anybody who would like to contact him.
|
Recollections
7.
Jim Di Mambro
South Africa |
Jim Di Mambro read the recollections from Peter Nolan above, then
replied::
My Great Grandfaither
"My great grandfaither, one Antonio
Tommasso, he lived in the last stair (I think) before you
would turn left intae the Cowgate. He went thro three wives and
sired 33 bairns.
Grassmarket Musicians
Regarding the photie of Peter Nolan's
father's band, my auld man knew Sammy Pacitti. I don't know if
Peter Nolan would have known any of the Tommasso or Di Mambro
families."
Jim Di Mambro, South Africa: June 5, 2008 |
Recollections
8.
George Stewart
South Edinburgh |
Thank you to George Stewart who wrote:
Barrie's Mission
"I
cant find the page, but somewhere on
the EdinPhoto site I'm
sure someone was asking about Barries in
the Grassmarket.
I'm
pretty sure the building was known as 'Barrie's
Mission'. The mission basically
helped out under-privileged kids at
Christmas - in fact,
all year so they must have had a heart of
gold."
George Stewart Stewart, South
Edinburgh:
August 25, 2008
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Recollections
9.
Bob Sinclair
Queensland, Australia |
Thank you to Bob Sinclair who wrote:
Daft Jimmy
"I
remember Jimmy Millar, if that was his
real name. He was sometimes referred
to as Daft Jimmy.
Jimmy was well known around
the vicinity of Greyfriars, Chambers
Street and the Grassmarket, and was well
known to those in the Grassmarket mission.
Like many others he was taken in every now and then and
deloused and bathed, fed, and let loose on
the streets again.
The students knew him and
were fond of him to the extent that the put him up as a candidate
for the Rector of Edinburgh University. He was put up against either
James Robertson Justice or Sydney Smith or somebody of that stature.
He did lose but had a lot of support from the students.
He was well known for
kicking his feet out sideways and announcing "They're aw in there".
Not only did he do it when passing Greyfriars Kirkyard but in many
other places in his travels. The students were kind to him and
slipped him a comforter - usually a fag"
Bob Sinclair, Queensland,
Australia: December 1, 2009
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Recollections
10.
Mick O'Rourke
Clermiston, Edinburgh |
Thank you to Mick O'Rourke who read the
comments about the Grassmarket Mission (Recollections 8 and 9 above)
then added his own memories of it:
Mick wrote:
|
My Family
"I
was raised in the Market during the
1950s
and early-1960s.
My family were the Flynns
and Devlins. Both families lived at
17 Grassmarket, next to the Vennel.
Most of the Flynns went to America
My
uncle, Jimmy Devlin, was very well
known. He was the superintendent of The
Victoria Hostel for men in the area of the West Port now known as
Webster's
Land. The hostel was for working single men.
At that time, most were Irish."
Christmas
"I
went to many Christmas parties at Barrie's
Mission. We got a good scran and a wee present.
Barrie's Mission
was
in the Grassmarket, opposite the
Castle Trades Hostel.
Ah done well at Christmas.
There was also a pairty in the Sacred Heart,
Lauriston Halls."
Barrie's Summer Outing
"We went
on the Annual Bus Outing, run by
the Mission. If memory serves,
we went to Spylaw Park, Colinton. But
for us, it was the end of the earth!
The
outing was a real highlight for the bairns of the area during
the summer. This is the song we used to
sing on the bus:
'Ah'm
no gaun tae Barries trip, Ah'm
no gaun
again.
Ah'm
no gaun tae Barries trip. it ayeways comes
oan rain'."
Mick O'Rourke, Clermiston,
Edinburgh: July 25, 2010 |
More Memories
Another contributor to the EdinPhoto site,
Jimmy Kelly, also remembers
Barrie's trips to Spylaw Park or Colinton Dell.
In his recollections of growing up in Dumbiedykes, Jimmy
remembered the same verse that Mick
O'Rourke remembered above. |
Recollections
11.
Graeme Charles Munro
Adelaide, South Australia,
Australia |
Graeme Charles Munro has now been living in
Australia for 45 years, but he tells me that he still remembers the
words of the song sung on Mr Barrie's Grassmarket Mission outings.
|
Mick O'Rourke gave these words in
'Recollections 10 above:
'Ah'm
no gaun tae Barries trip, Ah'm
no gaun
again.
Ah'm
no gaun tae Barries trip. it ayeways comes
oan rain'
Mick O'Rourke, Clermiston,
Edinburgh: July 25, 2010 |
However, Graeme added:
Barrie's Summer Outing
Verse 2
"The
song actually had two verses.
The second
verse was:
'Ah'm
no gaun tae Barries treat, Ah'm
no gaun
at a'.
Ah'm
no gaun tae Barries trip. its
always
cauld wi' snaw'. "
Graeme Charles Munro, Adelaide,
South Australia, Australia: June 20, 2011 |
Recollections
12.
Margaret Cooper
Colindale, North London,
England |
Thank you to Margaret Cooper for posting a
message in the EdinPhoto guestbook.
Margaret wrote:
|
Return to the
Grassmarket
"I was
pleasantly surprised, on my last visit,
to see how nice the Grassmarket was."
|
Hostels, Tenements
and Shops
"In the late-1940s,
there were many men's hostels, and the residents would all
loiter outside looking quite sinister. They
were shabby and unshaven.
There was no benefit system in those days.
The
hostels looked so rough, as if they could
be home to another Burke and Hare. All around were
tenements. Up the West Port,
there were many really rough looking second hand shops.
|
Punters
"Carry on down
the High Riggs to the bottom where, on the
corner, there was a large pub where the
bookies would hang out taking bets, and
where they and their punters would scatter at the first sign of a
policeman."
|
Coal Briquettes
"We used to go
to a really tiny second-hand shop next
door to the pub to buy briquettes when the coalman
couldn't or wouldn't deliver to us -
well, we were four flights up.
We kids would
trek up there with the old go-kart and get
the briquettes. We would get about
twelve for a shilling."
|
Margaret Cooper, Colindale, North London, England:
Message posted in EdinPhoto guest book: August 23, 2011 |
Recollections
13.
Cathy Luppino (née
Cormack)
Pennsylvania, USA |
Thank you to Cathy Luppino (née Cormack) for
posting a
message in the EdinPhoto guestbook.
Cathy wrote:
|
Memories
©
"I've read with much interest notes
posted about the Grassmarket. A few of the names I remember well. My
two sisters and their families live Edinburgh and we still blether
about old times in the 'Market' .
I worked for The North British Rubber
Company in Fountainbridge. (By that time it had been bought over by
U.S. Royal.) I worked in the office there, but my Dad
worked in the mill, starting as a young boy and retiring in his late
years."
|
View from the
Vennel Steps
"My Dad was
born in the tenement building next to the wee church at the top of
the Kings Stables Road, as seen in the ever-popular photo of the
castle taken from The Vennel steps.
©
I remember the Beehive Inn, right
across the road from us."
|
Bonfires
"Who remembers
the big Bonfires between Heriot Bridge and Castle Wynd?"
|
Books
"If anyone is
interested, there are some memorable photos in the issues of the
'Edinburgh Then' books. I think
published by the Scotsman.
Someone told me a long time ago that you
can take your heart out of Scotland but you can never take Scotland
out of your heart. Too true!"
|
Cathy Luppino (née Cormack),
Pennsylvania, USA
Message posted in EdinPhoto guest book: May 7, 2012 |
Recollections
14.
Avril Finlayson Smith
Strathdale, Bendigo, Victoria, Australia |
Thank you to Avril Finlayson Smith for posting
a reply on May 10, 2012 to Cathy Cormack's message in the EdinPhoto
guest book. (See Recollections 13
above,)
Avril wrote:
|
Living in The
Grassmarket
"Cathy -
I thought you'd be interested to hear that my husband Tom and
I lived in 8 Grassmarket in 1957, on the
second floor which you can see from many pictures taken of the
building.
For a long time ours were the only
window that were white. We bought this
place from my boss Mr Black of H.G, Black and Sons, China Merchants.
His main shop was further up the road.
He
bought the 2 warehouses below the flats, so had to take the flats
too. One was being vacated by a
family of Mum and Dad and 5 children, it was only a room and
kitchen. We bought it, then did it all up, hence the nice painted
windows."
Neighbours
"I have
many happy memories of the people who lived in the Grassmarket. When
our son was born, it was amazing the money
that was left in his pram when we had to leave it outside to go into
shops there, like Gerrys
for rolls.
That
was the custom in these days to do with a new baby
- to put a silver coin in the pram or in
their hand, so even with many on the dole
there, they were very generous."
The Beehive
"By the way,
the Beehive was up the road from this building not opposite.
I think it was Baxendales the Ironmongers that was opposite
the building."
Return Visit to
Edinburgh
"On our
first trip back
to The Grassmarket, we visited our first
home there. It was then one flat,
the two separate flats having been made
into one and the shared toilet made into a lovely modern bathroom.
It was so kind of the owner to let us see through her house.
I hope this is
of some interest to you, Cathie.
By the way, my Grandpa and an aunt
also worked in the Rubber Mill too."
|
Avril Finlayson Smith, Strathdale,
Bendigo, Victoria, Australia
Message posted in EdinPhoto guest book: May 10, 2012 |
Recollections
15.
Cathy Luppino (née
Cormack)
Pennsylvania, USA |
Cathy Luppino (née Cormack) replied, thanking
Avril for her Recollections 14
above.
Cathy wrote:
|
Grassmarket
No.17 and
No.25
"I lived at No.25 Grassmarket, which is
a short distance from the bottom of the Vennel steps.
Gerry Cozzi lived in the first stair to your right from
the Vennel. I think that was No.17.
The Flynns and the Devlins lived in that
stair too. They were , good friends
with my Mum, Dad and Granny.
Gerry's sister and family also lived there. Her name was Mrs.
Fagan. She worked in Gerry's.
Gerry's ice cream shop was between No.17
and No.25. The Beehive was directly across
from No.25."
|
Work
"My Mum and
Dad did odd jobs for Mr and Mrs. Fairley,
in between the other jobs that they had. People
had to work really hard in those days."
|
Cathy Luppino (née Cormack),
Pennsylvania, USA
Message posted in EdinPhoto guest book: May 11, 2012 |
Recollections
16.
Liz Burnett
Edinburgh |
Thank
you to Elizabeth Burnett who wrote: |
Our Family
"My family came from No.3
Grassmarket.
-
My dad was Peter Kelly.
- My
mother was Maggie Gordon.
- My
brothers were Peter, James and Gordon.
-
My sisters were Margaret
and Eleanor Kelly."
Neighbours
"I remember:
- Beesie Devlin from the
Grassmarket who I think will be related to Mick O’Rourke
(Recollections 10).
- Katie
Fairgrieve who lived up the West Port. She worked in Assa
Wassi's scrap yard.
- The Reilly family - Freddie,
Bobby, Lizzie, Nanna, Johnny, Molly and more. They are cousins
of our Kelly family.
- My uncle Jimmy Gordon. He
used to live at 28 West Port, across from Portsbury Square. He
was an undertaker with St Cuthberts.
- My
cousin Bobby Reilly. He used to live
up Burke and Hare Close.
-
Molly Reilly.
She was married to Frankie McGlynn.
They lived at 3 Grassmarket then moved to 7
."
Leaving
the Grassmarket
"We moved
to above Baxendale’s to 28 West Port,
then moved out to Stevenson Avenue. My
mother was very friendly with the Devlins and the Flynns."
Memories
"I remember:
-
West Port,
just down from the Globe Public House,
which led round to the backie.
- Barrie’s trip was great.
You got a pack of buns and a pie
and a tin mug round your neck for your drinks.
Memories eh!"
Liz Burnett: July 13, 2012
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Recollections
17.
Cathie Luppino (née
Cormack)
Pennsylvania, USA |
Here is a message that
Cathie Luppino (née Cormack)
posted in the EdinPhoto guestbook in reply to Liz Burnett's comments above.
Cathie wrote:
|
Reply to Liz
Burnett
"I've just
read your Recollections 16
above with my sister who was here in the USA on
holiday. I was showing her this website
and came across your posting. I wrote
Recollections 15, just ahead of you on the
list.
Between the two of us we remember most of
your relatives! I believe your sister
Eleanor was in my class at St. Ignatius. All
the names you mentioned were familiar to us.
We lived in No.25
(the Pend) just between Charlie Porter's and Gerry's Ice Cream shop.
Gerry used to park his ice cream van in
our pend. He would give us cheap ice cream cones and sliders when he got
back from his rounds in Edinburgh and Portobello etc.
Lean times, but good memories! My sisters
are Jean (Cormack) Kay and Tessie (Cormack) McCallum."
Cathie Luppino (née Cormack),
Pennsylvania, USA:
Message posted in EdinPhoto guestbook, August , 2012
|
Message for Cathy Luppino
Hi Cathy:
I hope you
find this message. Thanks for sending several contributions to the
EdinPhoto web site. However, you have sent them all to the EdinPhoto
web site, rather than to me by email, so I don't know your email
address.
Can you
please email me, then I'll know your email address and will be able to
pass it on to anybody who tells me that they would like to contact you,
such as Liz Burnett (Recollections 18 below)
who asked me recently.
Thank you.
Peter Stubbs, Edinburgh: October
15, 2012 |
Recollections
18.
Liz Burnett
Edinburgh |
Thank
you to Elizabeth Burnett for writing again.
Elizabeth wrote: |
People
"My brother, Peter
Kelly, and I have have now remembered a few more things from the
time when we lived in the
Grassmarket.
We remember:
- Molly
Fielding and Patricia Donaghue. They went to school with us.
- Peter
Cullen, who lived at 3 Grassmarket.
- Joe and
Fea Paton family who lived up West Port. One of their brothers
won the Pools.
-
Tommy
Reilly, my cousin, coming home at the end of the war, after having
been in a Japanese Prisoner of War Camp. It was a big homecoming with
flags and bunting out.
Shops
"We remember:
-
Riddle's, seed merchants.
- Alfie
Fairlie, Newsagent..
-
Graham's, a wee general shop at the bottom of Castle Wynd steps,
where we bought 'Vantis' drinks.
Liz Burnett: August 21, 2012
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Recollections
19.
Ian McArthur
Melbourne,
Victoria, Australia |
Thank you to Ian McArthur for posting a message in the EdinPhoto
Guestbook, telling about the time when his family lived near the
Grassmarket in Edinburgh Old Town.
Ian wrote:
|
Homes
"I was born in High
Street, Edinburgh, and went to St. Johns
School at Portobello, 1960 onwards.
I later moved to Victoria
Street in the Old Town, just
down from Edinburgh Castle,
while I was still at St John's, and used to get the No.42 bus to and from
school."
Victoria Street
"We lived at No.3
Victoria Street.
It was between
Ristorante Milano
and the Cauldron Bar.
Our neighbours were Eni Lee and the Quinn family on the top floor."
Play in the
Grassmarket
"I used to play in
the Grassmarket with:
-
Franny McGann.
-
Alex Bull.
-
Kenny Smyth.
I remember:
-
Mary Maull's,
newsagent.
-
Gerry's,
for rolls.
-
Bert,
the butchers."
School
"I
knocked around with a few guys from St Ignatius, then
went to St.
Andrew's Secondary School at
Stockbridge from 1966/67 until we merged with Holy Cross to form St. Augustine's,
out at Broomhouse.
I remember:
- John Hanlon
- Paddy McGinnity
- Brian Hart
- Michael (owl)
- Fanny Black
- Keith Black
- Jimmy Nairey.
Boys' Club
"I also remember attending
the Tweedie Memorial Boys' Club, which I think was half-way up the West
Port, walking from the Grassmarket."
Pubs
"As I got older I
frequented
pubs in the Old Town:
-
The
Last Drop.
-
White Hart Inn.
-
The Black Bull.
and of course
-
The
Cauldron,
which was just below our flat."
West Port
"I also remember
people from the West Port:
-
The Black Family,
Franny and Keith.
-
Rab Canale
-
Gordon Glancy.
Remember Me?
"I'd be only too
happy to hear from people who may remember me, or who just remember the
days at school and may be able to mention names
I've forgotten.
If you are out there,
please shoot me an email to catch up."
Ian McArthur, Melbourne, Victoria,
Australia (since 1981)::
Message posted in EdinPhoto Guestbook: 8 October 2013 + Reply posted
in Guestbook on
20 September 2013 in response to a message posted by James Palmer on
15 December 2012.
ALSO: email, October 1, 2013. |
Reply to Ian
If you'd like to send a reply to Ian, you can do
that by
EITHER: posting a reply below the
message that he left in the EdinPhoto
Guestbook on
8 October 2013
OR:
clicking on the email link below that message in the EdinPhoto
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and sending an email to him.
Peter Stubbs, Edinburgh:
October 9, 2013 |
Recollections
20.
Ian McArthur
Melbourne,
Victoria, Australia |
Thank you to Ian McArthur for writing again,
After reading Mick O'Rourke's memories of
Barrie's Mission in Recollections 10
above, Ian McArthur wrote:
|
Barrie's
Mission
Thanks to Micky
"The more I look
through this website, the more I find, and can relate to.
Micky O'Rourke
posted a wonderful recollection of Barrie's
Mission. Thank you, Micky.
Here are
my own recollections."
Mission for the Homeless
"Barrie's
Mission was, I think,
a Church Of Scotland Mission, initially
set up to look after the homeless in and
around the Edinburgh area and a place to go on a Sunday if you were
down on your luck and hungry.
Sunday Services
"However
us kids used to frequent it when it went 'up
market' and started holding services on a
Sunday, even if you were a Catholic like
me.
We used to go Barrie's
after going to Mass at St. Pat's or St.
Francis' on a Sunday.
Mass finished at 10.30am, so we would run
up to the Mission for 11.00am,
singing:
'Ah'm
no gaun tae Barries trip, Ah'm
no gaun
again.
Ah'm no gaun tae Barries trip.
It ayeways comes
oan rain'
We would lob in there early
to get at the front and sit on the floor,
sing a few songs and get a cup of tea and a biscuit.
Fitba'
"The
Mission also had a good fitba' team
which I played for on occasions."
Bus Outing
"The
bus outing was a huge hit, all us toerags
with mugs or cups hanging round our necks,
secured with a bit of string, off to Spylaw Park
at Colinton.
We
thought this was a trip to the country or
even another country (lol).
Geez, it was great!"
Father Ronan
"I
remember being called to see Fr Ronan at St. Francis church on a
Thursday night after Cubs had finished, and was asked to explain how
I was front and centre in the photo of Barrie's
trip to Spylaw Park holding up one end of the 'JESUS
SAVES' banner.
We had
all had our group picture taken,
once we arrived at Spylaw Park. Unknown to me,
it was also taken by the Evening News and was
shown in the paper a few days later."
As far as the priests were
concerned, Barrie's Mission was the
opposition!"
Ian McArthur, Melbourne, Victoria,
Australia: October 12, 2013 |
Recollections
21.
Ian McArthur
Melbourne,
Victoria, Australia |
Ian McArthur wrote:
|
Irish Workers
Cheap Hotels
"I remember the
cheap hotel
in the Grassmarket which housed lots of
Irish Navvies. Actually,
there were two hotels:
-
One
was called Castle Trades Hotel
-
The name of
the other escapes me Im sure
someone will let me know.
I also remember
that the workers all wore
donkey jackets and hobnail boots and were
always covered in mud. Working, digging
ditches will do that I suppose.
They all drank in the pub
directly opposite the Mission, which I
think was The Grassmarket Bar.
The Week
"Friday
and Saturday nights were noisy, with lots
of drinking, singing and, later, fighting,
but by Monday night they were all skint and hanging out till Friday
when they were paid again.
So it would all start again!
The Orange March
"In
July,
the Orange March would pass by on its way
to King's Stables Road and then on to
Lothian Road.
As soon as the
marchers got within site of the Trades hotel, the
hotel windows would fly open and all sorts
of bottles, cans and lots of other garbage would fly out the
windows.
I remember watching both
sides shouting and screaming abuse at each other,
but that's all that really happened.
There was never really much contact.
The rozzers saw to that!"
Grassmarket
Characters
Daft Jimmy
"I
remember Daft Jimmy (mentioned in
Recollections 9 above).
Cane Man
"There
was
was another guy who used to fashion cane into items like babies'
rattles and baskets. He used to have
a really bad lisp, and was always going on
about the Paakeeshhtanees as back then was the first time we saw a
large increase in the Indian and Pakistan communities.
Of
of course the new kids on the block always cop the blame for some
people's misfortune."
Tuesday Lost
"Talking
of misfortune, there was another guy who
used to be seen around the Grassmarket. He
was called 'Tuesday Lost'.
I'm
not sure why he got this name, but the
rumour is that he put all his money on a horse called Tuesday and
supposedly it lost. This left him with
nothing, and so he came
to be living in the Castle Trades.
Ian McArthur, Melbourne, Victoria,
Australia: October 12, 2013 |
Recollections
22.
Ian McArthur
Melbourne,
Victoria, Australia |
Thank you to Ian McArthur for writing again,
this time asking a question.
Ian wrote:
|
Question
The Meti Pen
"Can anyone remember
'The Meti Pen'?
It
was a close, I think in the Grassmarket.
I remember the words coming out my mouth on
occasions, but for the life of me, I
cannot remember where it was.
I have a feeling it may
have been Wardens close which was at the far east end of the market
close, to the well."
Ian McArthur, Melbourne, Victoria,
Australia: October 15, 2013 |
Recollections
23.
Wilma Tomerlin
(née
Gibson)
Southern
California, USA |
Thank you to Wilma Tomerlin who wrote:
|
The Foot of the Vennel
"I
was researching the building at the foot the
Vennel steps which was at one
time a Salvation Army Women's Hostel.
My aunt, her husband and sister-in-law used to arrange
'Concert
Parties' to entertain the women.
My Aunt said that their efforts were greatly
appreciated and much looked forward to.
Needless-to-say I
just had to explore those marvelous steps.
I succeeded in gathering
quite a few images leading me from The
Grassmarket to the top of the stairs and the lane
alongside the old wall to Heriot Place then ending at Lauriston
Place."
My
Grandmother's Shop
"My
Grandmother had a shop in The Grassmarket
where she sold newspapers, cigarettes, sweeties, etc. for many
years. She bought it at the beginning of World War I.
I never saw
it, but after questioning my Edinburgh cousins
and checking old Post Office Directories, I've
finally pinned down the location to
88 The Grassmarket.
It's now has
an orange
shop front and is named
'Costume Ha-Ha'."
Wilma Tomerlin, (née Gibson), Southern
California, USA: October 27, 2013 |
Recollections
24.
Darryn McGreevy
Edinburgh |
Thank you to Darren McGreevy who wrote:
|
Bookie's Runner
and
Betting Shop
"My grandfather, Alex
McGreevy, was a bookie's runner many years ago, then after he passed
away my dad, Owen McGreevy, opened one of his first betting shops in
the Grassmarket."
Darryn McGreevy: Edinburgh:
31 December 2014 |
Recollections
25.
Mimi Olds
Rolla Missouri, USA
|
Thank you to Mimi Olds who wrote:
|
My Family
"I was born in the
West Port and also went to the little
kindergarten up the Vennel Steps, as did
all my sisters.
My
sister still lives in the same house. Our
family has lived in the neighborhood longer than any other family,
and when my mother was alive they had her light the Christmas tree
in the Grassmarket because she was the
oldest resident
I still have a lot of family
living there a and enjoy going there for a
visit."
Mimi Olds, Rolla, Missouri, USA:
27 August + 15 September 2015 |
Recollections
26.
Darryn McGreevy
Edinburgh |
Thank you to Darryn McGreevy for writing
again, this time about PC Basher Thompson.
Darryn wrote:
|
PC Basher
Thompson
"Regarding previous posts,
I can remember my dad always talking about Basher Thompson with
great respect. In fact he used to
say that nobody had a bad word to say about him.
Basher apparently ruled the Grassmarket single-
handedly.
I think Dad
was doing his National Service when Basher
died. My Granny wrote to him and
told him that both sides of the Grassmarket were lined with people
in respect."
Darryn McGreevy: Edinburgh:
10 October 2015 |
Recollections
27.
Elma Gauson
(née
Thomson)
Turriff,
Aberdeenshire, Scotland
|
Thank you to Elma Gauson who wrote wrote:
|
PC 'Basher'
Thomson
"I was delighted to read about my
uncle, Basher Thomson.
My father was David Thomson.
He and Basher started out boxing together,
but my dad went on to play football instead and got a gold medal for
playing for Scotland in the 'Under 21s'.
As well as Basher's Box,
mentioned on the EdinPhoto web site, a plaque in memory of Basher
has been installed in the Grassmarket."
Elma Gauson (née Thomson),
Turriff, Aberdeenshire, Scotland:
23 August 2015 |
Recollections
28.
Elma Gauson
(née
Thomson)
Turriff,
Aberdeenshire, Scotland
|
Thank you to Elma Gauson for writing again.
Elma added:
|
PC 'Basher'
Thomson
"I recently
spoke to a great character who had an uncle who knew Basher
well. This man was a bare
knuckle fighter from Romany stock.
One night, he had
had too much to drink and Basher
told him to quieten down and to get home. The
man replied with a gesture and said "come on then, show me what you
have got."
Basher obliged and the two punched each
other for some time before the man said
"good night," and went home.
They just acted as if nothing happened
when they next met!"
Elma Gauson (née Thomson),
Turriff, Aberdeenshire, Scotland:
23 August 2015 |
Recollections
29.
Bryan Gauson
Turriff,
Aberdeenshire, Scotland
|
Thank you to Bryan Gauson who wrote:
|
PC 'Basher'
Thomson
"Basher,
I believe, was
also the Police Heavyweight Boxing Champion for
many years."
Bryan Gauson,
Turriff, Aberdeenshire, Scotland:
15 January, 2016 |
Recollections
30.
Meg Reilly |
Thank you to Meg Reilly who wrote:
|
The Grassmarket
Mission
"When i was young (many years
ago) my friend and I used to go to a place in the Grassmarket on a
Sunday. We said prayers etc and we always got a cup of tea
and a jam roll when we arrived.
We had an Attendance Card
that got stamped and at Christmas Santa Clause came and we got to
choose a present.
I loved hearing his bell ring. It
was so exciting. I think it was called The Grassmarket
Mission but not 100% sure. I loved it."
Meg Reilly: 28 January 2013 |
|