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Edinburgh
Car Showrooms

and a question about a German Open Top Car

Recollections

1.

Frank Ferri
Newhaven, Edinburgh

Rossleigh Showrooms

2.

Gus Coutts
Duddingston, Edinburgh

Vauxhall Dealership

-  Parked Cars

3.

Harry Gilbert
Edinburgh

SMT or Rossleigh

4.

Harry Gilbert
Edinburgh

Rossleigh

5.

Phil Wilson
Aberdeen, Scotland

Shandwick Place

-  Film of German Car at Auction

6.

Frank Ferri
Newhaven, Edinburgh

Which Showroom

7.

Gus Coutts
Duddingston,  Edinburgh

George Street Showroom

8.

Harry Gilbert
Edinburgh

George Street Showrooms

9.

Brian Gourlay
Biggar, Lanarkshire, Scotland

George Street Showrooms

-  Eastern Motor Co

Tollcross Showroom

-  Eastern Motor Co

Old Photos

10.

Tony Ivanov
Bo'ness, West Lothian, Scotland

George Street Showroom

11.

John Dickson
Royston, Edinburgh

Shandwick Place Showroom

-  James Ross & Sons

Shandwick Place Showroom

-  Rossleigh

Lothian Road

Gordon MacAndrew

12.

Miles Cumming
Edinburgh

George Street Showroom

-  Glen Henderson

13.

Danny Callaghan
Falkirk, Stirlingshire, Scotland

George Street Showroom

14.

Mike Melrose
Greenbank, Edinburgh

Rossleigh

-  Alexander Mather

-  McAndrew's

15.

Peter Stubbs
Edinburgh

 McAndrew's, Lothian Road

-  John Croall, Castle Terrace

 

Recollections

1.

Frank Ferri

Newhaven, Edinburgh

Thank you to Frank Ferri who wrote:

Lothian Road Showroom

Rossleigh?

"As a youngster, in the late-1940s or early-1950s,  I saw a big German open air car that was on display in a car showrooms I think the car was formerly used by either Goring or Hitler during World War 2.  Its windows had bullet marks on them.

I think it was Rossleigh’s showrooms, which then, was on the corner of Grindlay Street and Lothian Road.

In the 1970s, this became Her Majesty’s Stationery Offices.

-  Now, it is Nanno’s restaurant.

Question

Can anyone throw any light on this memory?"

Frank Ferri, Newhaven, Edinburgh:  October 28, 2011

Recollections

2.

Gus Coutts

Duddingston, Edinburgh

Thank you to Gus Coutts who replied:

Lothian Road Showroom

SMT or Rossleigh

"I remember the showroom at the corner of Grindlay Street and Lothian Road as being SMT Sales & Service, a Vauxhall dealership."

Here is a photo of it."

SMT Sales & Service Dealership, on the corner of Lothian Road and Grindlay Street, Edinburgh ©

Gus Coutts, Duddingston, Edinburgh:  November 5, 2011

Parked Cars

Please click on the thumbnail image above to enlarge the photo and read a discussion about the cars parked in front of the showroom.

Recollections

3.

Harry Gilbert

Edinburgh

Thank you to Harry Gilbert who replied:

Lothian Road Showroom

SMT or Rossleigh

"I never saw the car, but a hazy recollection links it to Rossleigh.

However another hazy recollection of the showroom on the corner of Grindlay Street and Lothian Road was that it was the SMT and not Rossleigh.

Was the Rossleigh showroom in Shandwick Place? Or were they in Lothian Road as well?

Harry Gilbert, Edinburgh:  November 5, 2011

Yes Harry:  Gus Coutts' recollections about the dealership on the corner of Lothian Road and Grindlay Street agree with your memories of it, and this photo confirms that it was an SMT dealership that was on that corner:

Recollections

4.

Harry Gilbert

Edinburgh

Thank you to Harry Gilbert for contacting me again.

Harry added

Shandwick Place Showroom

Rossleigh

"An elderly friend thinks it was the bulletproof car used by Hermann Goering, and that it was displayed for a short time in Rossleigh's showroom in Shandwick Place.

I would have thought that for such an event someone would have taken a photograph?"

Harry Gilbert, Edinburgh:  November 5, 2011

Recollections

5.

Phil Wilson

Aberdeen, Scotland

Thank you to Phil Wilson who wrote:

Shandwick Place

"The car was certainly displayed at Shandwick Place in 1948, according to the web site of an ex-Edinburgh man who now lives in Australia.

Film of German Car at Auction

This British-Pathé film shows the car at auction in London in the early-1950s, but I've not yet found a photo of the car in Edinburgh."

Phil Wilson, Aberdeen, Scotland:  November 5, 2011

 

Recollections

6.

Frank Ferri

Newhaven, Edinburgh

It now seems clear that in the early-1950s, there was:

an SMT dealership on the corner of Grindlay Street and Lothian Road.

a Rossleigh dealership in Shandwick Place.

After reading the various recollections above, Frank Ferri wrote:

Which Showroom?

"I concede that the German open top car probably was on display in Shandwick Place, but may have been lent out at another time to SMT at Lothian Road.

I remember lingering and having a good look at it with the war still fresh in my mind."

Frank Ferri, Newhaven, Edinburgh:  November 6, 2011.

Recollections

7.

Gus Coutts

Duddingston, Edinburgh

Gus Coutts, who sent me the original photo of the SMT showroom in Lothian Road has now asked another question.

Gus wrote:

George Street Showroom

"I was talking with a friend on Saturday.  He said that he remembered a car showroom in George Street at, he thinks, the west end of the street.

It very vaguely rings a not very clear bell with me. Can anybody else can clarify this?

Gus Coutts, Duddingston, Edinburgh:  November 7, 2011

Recollections

8.

Harry Gilbert

Edinburgh

Thank you to Harry who wrote:

George Street Showroom

"Gus Coutts (7 above) remembers a car showroom in George Street. I think there was one near to and along from the Assembly Rooms on the south side of George Street, but I can't remember whose it was!"

Harry Gilbert, Edinburgh,  November 8, 2011

Recollections

9.

Brian Gourlay

Biggar, Lanarkshire, Scotland

Thank you to Harry who wrote:

George Street Showrooms

Eastern Motor Company

"The car showroom I remember well, in George Street, was Eastern Motor Company.  It was just a few yards to the East of the Assembly Rooms, at No 52.

 It was owned by dad’s best friend John Brown and was a forerunner of today’s large Eastern Western Motor Group.  Eastern Motor Company was still in George Street in the 1960s.

There may also have been a showroom at the West End of George Street on the South side not far from Charlotte Square – but I’m not so sure about this."

Tollcross Showroom

Eastern Motor Company

"John Brown’s original business, before and after the war, was in Lochrin Place, Tollcross, which I visited many times as a small boy."

Brian Gourlay, Biggar, Lanarkshire, Scotland:  November 8, 2011

Old Photos

Brian also sent me this link to the Eastern Western web site.  If you click on this page, then wait a few seconds, the picture at the top of the page will rotate.

There are seven different pictures including

early interior views of the workshops.

-  a good view of the frontage of Eastern Motor Co at 53 George Street.

Recollections

10.

Tony Ivanov

Bo'ness, West Lothian, Scotland

Thank you to Tony Ivanov who wrote:

George Street Showroom

"There was indeed a car showroom at the far west end of George Street.  It was on the north side.

I cannot remember the dealership, but have a feeling that it might have been up-market cars."

Tony Ivanov, Bo'ness, West Lothian, Scotland

Recollections

11.

John Dickson

Royston, Edinburgh

Edinburgh Car Showrooms

Thank you to to John Dickson for sending me adverts for these car showrooms:

Shandwick Place Showroom

-  James Ross & Sons

Shandwick Place Showroom

-  Rossleigh

Lothian Road

Gordon MacAndrew

      Advert for Cars  -  Gordon C MacAndrew, Lothian Road, 1927 ©

Acknowledgement:  John Dickson, Royston, Edinburgh:  November 9+10, 2011

I'll look into the copyright situation for the first two adverts above see if it will be possible for me to add these adverts to the EdinPhoto web site.

Peter Stubbs, Edinburgh:  November 10, 2011

Recollections

12.

Miles Cumming

Edinburgh

Thank you to to Miles Cumming who replied:

George Street Showroom

-  Glen Henderson

"I can recall a Porsche showroom at the extreme west end of George Street.  It was called Glen Henderson

More recently, I think it was occupied by a branch of American Express travel agent."

Acknowledgement:  Miles Cumming, Edinburgh:  November 9, 2011

Recollections

13.

Danny Callaghan

Falkirk, Stirlingshire, Scotland

Thank you to to Danny Callaghan who wrote:

George Street Showroom

"Tony Ivanov (10 above) mentions that there was a car showroom at far west end north of George Street.

I cannot remember this, but this picture that my dad took of that part of street on a Sunday morning around 1958 may help others to remember."

George Street  -  Fluorescent Lights  -  Early Sunday Morning, around 1958? ©"

Danny Callaghan, Falkirk, Stirlingshire, Scotland:  November 10, 2011

George Street Showroom

Danny sent this message to me before I had chance to add the reply from Miles Cumming (12 above) in which Miles gave the answer:

-  The showroom was named Glen Henderson.  It sold Porsche cars.

Peter Stubbs, Edinburgh:  November 10, 2011

Recollections

14.

Mike Melrose

Greenbank, Edinburgh

Thank you to to Mike Melrose who wrote about some of the Edinburgh car showrooms.  Mike hopes that others might be able to throw some more light on his topics below.

He wrote:

Rossleigh

"My recollections are that Rossleigh’s in Shandwick Place were the agents for Jaguar and Rolls Royce, and the showroom was next to a restaurant cal-1960s.  I remember the gleaming cars very well. 

Alexander Mather

"I served my Apprenticeship as an Engineering Draughtsman with Alexander Mather and Sons Limited in Orwell Terrace, just of Dalry Road.

During my Apprenticeship, one of the owners Ian S Mather (Mr Ian) showed me some interesting photographs and catalogues for Rolls Royce Cars.

Some of the photographs were large format glass plate negatives.  I wonder where they are nowThe photos showed Rolls Royce cars outside the showroom at the above address. 

In the early-1900s, Mather’s were the original sales and service agent for Rolls Royce in Edinburgh and Scotland.  In the 1911 Post Office Directory for Edinburgh, Mather’s are listed twice.

 Firstly, as Engineers, Millwrights and Iron founders.

Secondly, as Motor Engineers with Showrooms at the same address. 

Rossleigh subsequently took over the Rolls Royce franchise. 

McAndrew's

McAndrew’s also had a Citroen Showroom in Lothian Road diagonally opposite the site of the Vauxhall Showroom in your photographs.

SMT Sales & Service Dealership, on the corner of Lothian Road and Grindlay Street, Edinburgh ©

I think the building was previously part of the Caledonian Railway Station Goods Yard. 

Mike Melrose:  November 12, 2011

Recollections

15.

Peter Stubbs

Edinburgh

Here are are links to a couple more pages about car showrooms, near the West End of Edinburgh, that I added to the EdinPhoto web site a while ago.

1.

McAndrew's Garage

Lothian Road

    Advert for Cars  -  Gordon C MacAndrew, Lothian Road, 1927 ©

2.

John Croall

Castle Terrace

Buildings  -  John Croall, Coachbuilders  -   Outside  -  Castle Terrace ©            Buildings  -  John Croall, Coachbuilders  -   Bodymakers' Shop  -  Castle Terrace ©

Peter Stubbs:  November 18, 2011

 

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Photographs and Other Images  -  These include portraits of photographers  -  photographic outings -  Princes Street views  -  Newhaven Fishwives  -  etc.  Early Photography in Edinburgh  -  Talbot, Brewster, Hill & Adamson, Early Professional Photographers in Princes Street, etc.  Professional Photographers in Edinburgh  -  1840 to 1940  -  Their names, dates of business and studio addresses.  The Photographic Society of Scotland  -  1856 to 1873  -  Lectures, Exhibitions, Outings, etc.  The History of Edinburgh Photographic Society  -  1861 to date  -  Lectures, Exhibitions, Outings, Poems, etc.  EPS Publications - EPS Handwritten Records  -  Photographic Journals  -  Trade Directories  -  Books  -  etc.  Thanks to all who have encouraged and supported me in creating the EdinPhoto web site  -  including descendants of photographers  -  researchers  -  providers of photographs and other material  Background notes on the research thal led up to the creation of this site  -   together with lists of new material added to the site since its launch.  Brief comments on how this site might be used  -  Just browsing?  -  Seeking specific information?  Please add your questions, suggestions or other comments to the Guest Book.  Links to other web sites  -  Photographic Societies  -  Photographic History  -  Family History  -  etc.  Click here to find the link to the Edinburgh Photogrpahic Society web site.

 

A selection of my photographs, many from Edinburgh throughout the year.   Also photos from Scotland, London, Iceland, Italy, Hong Kong and elsewhere    Many old maps of Edinburgh (Old Town, New Town, while City), Leith and Newhaven.  Includes several old transport maps and a comparison of old maps with recent aerial photos.   Old engravings, mailly of Edinburgh scenes.  Some from the 1820s, some from the 1890s,  some others - includes many hand-coloured examples from the 1820s.   News from Edinburgh today  -  Events, Collections, Buildings and Gardens, Transport   This site includes     1. Post card portraits taken in studios in Edinburgh:    2. Post card views either takeen/published by Ediburgh photographers or views of Edinburgh, or both.y Edinburgh    Views of Edinburgh, grouped into three sections:     1. Street views:    2. Buildings:    3. Around Edinburgh   Views of transport around Edinburgh  -  Horse drawn trams and buses, cable cars, electric trams, buses and a few railway photos.  Also several maps of Edinburgh's bus and tram routes.   Links to pages with Photos of Groups   Frequently Asked Questions

  Summary of the updates added to this site each month since the site was launched   Links to Dumbiedykes pages  Link to Granton pages  Link to Leith pages   Link to Newhaven pages   Links to Portobello pages   Link to My Recent Talks