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Recollections

Training at

Leith Nautical College

 

Recollections

1.

Walter Lyle Hume
Cowes, Isle of Wight

Enrolment

Studies

Life Boat Drill

Air Raid Fire Watching

Live Ammunition Training

SMT Buses

2.

Bob Henderson
Burdiehouse, Edinburgh

Amateur Radio Licence

3.

David Malcolm
New Zealand

1951 Students

4.

Frank Ferri
Newhaven, Edinburgh

TS Dolphin

5.

Margaret Duff (née McKay)
Near Oban, Argyll, Scotland

Leith

6.

Jack Munro
Newcraighall, Edinburgh

Former Students

- 1950s

6.

Reply 1.

Les Black
Melbourne, Victoria, Australia

Buster Black

6.

Reply 2.

Peter Logan
Haslington, near Crewe, Cheshire, England

Buster Black

7.

Dorothy Addison
Tsawwassen, British Columbia, Canada

Former Student

- 1952:  George Johnston

8.

Ian M Malcolm
St Andrews, Fife, Scotland

Former Student - 1947-48

- The College

9.

John Leith
New Zealand

TS Dolphin - 1967

10.

Polly McCallum
Australia

Info about Jim Dunkley

11.

Robina Murphy
(
née Rafferty)

USA

Arthur Rafferty

 

Recollections

1.

Walter Lyle Hume

Cowes, Isle of Wight

Thank you to Walter Lyle Hume, now living in Cowes, Isle of Wight, England, for sending me his recollections of training at Leith Nautical College to become a Merchant Navy Apprentice, known by some shipping lines as a Merchant Navy Cadet.

Here are some extracts from Walter's recollections:

Enrolment

"During the early part of the 1939-45 War, I went scurrying, along with two other friends, to enroll at Leith Nautical College, at the Citadel Dock Gates in Commercial Street.

We went through the large glazed oak portals into a busy tiled entrance halls, adorned with beautiful ship models, some of them cut away to show the method of construction which we were to learn a lot about later.

There were problems in obtaining the nautical books due to the acute wartime shortages.  Then we had to pay five shillings (25p) for the obligatory, all-important Board of Trade 'Eye-sight' test."

Studies

"Within a very short time it became obvious that this type of work was so vastly different from day school, so recently and eagerly left behind.

Instead of being treated as school pupils, we were now expected to be and behave as adults.  This was brought to the fore at 10 o'clock coffee break (or in college/merchant navy parlance 'smoke oh').

A quick dash outside for those who wished to and could afford it."

Life Boat Drill

"Friday afternoon became a form of compulsory PE games, except the sports were confined to 'Lifeboat' drill.

The college lifeboat was situated at the edge of the dockside wall at West Old Dock."

Air Raid Fire Watching

"We were always on the look-out to enhance our limited expendable income,  even a bit of roof top Air Raid fire watching

Most firms were obliged to have employees carry out these duties, for which the government paid an allowance to the individual of 2/6 (12.5p) per night plus camp bed.

We were usually selected to be used as stand-in watchers for those having a night-off."

Live Ammunition Training

"We learnt how to strip a Lewis gun down to the last nut and bolt, then put it all together again.

In the second part of the course we were assigned to 'live ammunition' gunnery practise, which was conducted at a quiet seaside sand dune range some fifteen miles from our base.

Lunch there was a small bottle of beer and a spam sandwich."

SMT Buses

"We travelled there by SMT bus, complete with trailer!  This transpired to  be a gas generator to run the engine.  The gas storage bag, rather like a mini-barrage balloon was fitted on top where normally external luggage would have been stowed.

The trailer, very similar to a small fire pump had a mini-boiler, the furnace being stoked with anthracite coal to make the propellant gas.  The solid fuel was stowed in the rear boot of the bus."

Walter Lyle Hume, Cowes, Isle of Wight, England.  May 25, 2006

 

Recollections

2.

Bob Henderson

Burdiehouse, Edinburgh

Thank you to Bob Henderson, Burdiehouse, Edinburgh who wrote:

Amateur Radio Licence

"It's good to see the shore side of Commercial Street, looking not to different from my memories of it.

I studied at the old Nautical College for a year of night classes to get my Amateur Radio Licence 36 years ago, and worked in the Leith area for about 17 years with NT Aitken, builders."

Bob Henderson, Burdiehouse, Edinburgh:  December 21, 2007

 

Recollections

3.

David Malcolm

New Zealand

Thank you to David Malcolm for sending photographs to me, including the one above.  David left Edinburgh  in 1956 and is now living in North Island, New Zealand.

David wrote:

1951 Students

"I hope my photos may bring back some happy memories.   I am seated, second left in this photo.

These students at Leith Nautical College in 1951 are  in the pre-sea training course for youths aiming to join shipping companies as Apprentices.

The course was for a full year which included practical seamanship and navigation theory plus related subjects. Successful completion of the course led to a six months reduction to the four year apprenticeship.

David Malcolm, North Island, New Zealand:  January 18, 2008

Students - 1951

    Students at Leith Nautical Collect in 1951 ©    Students at Leith Nautical Collect in 1951 ©

 

Recollections

4.

Frank Ferri

Newhaven, Edinburgh

Between 1939 and 1958, Frank lived in Ballantyne Road, Leith, opposite the State Cinema.

Frank wrote:

TS Dolphin

"I remember when graduating from the TS Dolphin at Leith Nautical College, the captain saying to us:

'Now remember guys, you'll be travelling all over the world and people will ask you:

"Where are you fro?"

Never ever say Edinburgh out of convenient expediency.  ALWAYS say LEITH and let them work it out.'

I've made that custom and practice ever since and promote LEITH a every opportunity."

Frank Ferri, Newhaven, Edinburgh (formerly Newhaven, Leith!):  April 12, 2008

 

Recollections

5.

Margaret Duff (née McKay)

Near Oban, Argyll, Scotland

Thank you to Margaret Duff (née McKay), now living near Oban, Argyll, Scotland, for leaving a message in the EdinPhoto guest book.

Margaret  wrote:

Leith

"I was interested to read the piece by Walter Lyle Hume (1. above) concerning Leith Nautical College from 1939-1945.

My Father, Donald Forbes McKay, (ex Ben Line) taught the Merchant Navy Cadets during those years before moving to the Navigation School in Aberdeen.  He was also Scotland's first Extra Master to gain his certificate after the war.

We used to travel by train every day; he to Leith along with Captain Tait, and my brother and I to Trinity Academy where we went to the Primary school.

My husband is a Member of the Trinity House of Leith, the Master being Captain Magnus Poulson."

Margaret Duff, near Oban, Argyll, Scotland:  April 14, 2008

Recollections

6.

Jack Munro

Newcraighall, Edinburgh

Thank you to Jack Munro for leaving a message in the EdinPhoto guestbook.

Jack  wrote:

Former Students  -  1950s

"I was fortunate to get my Second Class ticket at Leith Nautical in the 1950s, in the Radio Section.  I'm trying to locate details of some of the former students from that period.

They are:

A Bogie

 H Watson

 Butcher

 I came back and get my First Class Ticket. Some fellows in same class then were:

-  Buster Black

Peter Logan

Bill Scott"

Jack Munro, Newcraighall, Edinburgh:
Message posted in EdinPhoto guestbook, December 10, 2009

If you'd like to send a reply to Jack, please email me, then I'll pass on your message to him.  Thank you.

Peter Stubbs:  December 10, 2009

 

Recollections

6.

Reply

1.

Les Black

Melbourne, Victoria, Australia

Today, I received the first reply to Recollections 6 that Jack Munro posted above in 2009.

 The reply came from Les Black who wrote:

Buster Black

"I am gobsmacked!
I am Buster Black.
I live in Melbourne Australia.
I remember Jackie Munro well,
and will be interested to get in touch!"

Les Black, Melbourne, Victoria, Australia:  July 4, 2013

Les and Jackie

It must have been a surprise to Les to read the message above.  It's probably about 60 years since Les was in the same class as Jackie at Leith Nautical College.

I've now forwarded the latest email address that I have for Jack to Les.  I hope they will be able to get in touch with each other.

Peter Stubbs, Edinburgh:  July 4, 2013

 

Recollections

6.

Reply

2.

Peter Logan

Haslington, near Crewe, Cheshire, England

I've now received a second message for Jack Munro.  It comes from Peter Logan who wrote:

Family in Leith

"Hi Jack:

I've just received am email from Buster Black giving me details of the EdinPhoto web site mentioning yourself and other Leith Nautical attendees.

Buster and I regularly contact one another through emails.  I now live with my wife in Haslington nr Crewe and have memories of the College.

Would you believe that my youngest daughter and her husband lived in a flat at the other end of the building adjoining the College. They still live in Leith.

Happy memories!"

Peter Logan, Haslington, near Crewe, Cheshire, England:  July 28, 2013

Recollections

7.

Dorothy Addison

Tsawwassen, British Columbia, Canada

Dorothy Addison left this message in the EdinPhoto guest book, hoping to be able to contact a former student from Leith Nautical College:

Former Student

George Johnston  -  1952

"I am trying to locate a fellow called George Johnston.  He lived at 26 Dalkeith Street, Joppa, Edinburgh. He joined the Ben Line after studying at Leith Nautical College in 1952 and served with them for a few yearsHe would be around 75 years of age today.

I have located his brother Tommy Johnston.  (There was also a brother called Roy who has passed away.)  Tommy has also lost touch with his brother George, and could not help me.

My maiden name was Dorothy Jenkins.  I am also from Joppa.

Dorothy Jenkins, Tsawwassen, British Columbia, Canada
Message posted in EdinPhoto guestbook, January 3, 2010

Reply?

If you think you might be able to help Dorothy to contact George, please email me, then I'll pass on your message to her.

 Thank you.

Peter Stubbs:  January 5,  2009

Recollections

8.

Ian M Malcolm

St Andrews, Fife, Scotland

Thank you to Ian M Malcolm who came from Dundee to study at Leith Nautical College for a year in 1947-48.

Ian wrote:

1947-8

The College

"I was a Radio Officer in the Merchant Navy and wanted to upgrade to 1st Class PMG.  Dundee Wireless College had closed, so I came to Leith Nautical College in Commercial Street in 1947 to study for a year.

The fee for the year was a nominal £5, no matter how long I attended the college.  Ironically, the fee to sit the exam was exactly double that amount.

The college had departments in Navigation, Engineering and-  Radio.  The Radio Department had a lecture room, a Morse room and a room containing the very latest of marine equipment.

Students

These are some of the students that I remember:

Andy Abbott

-  Syd Campbell

-  Ducat

Jim Dunkley

Bob Gordon

-  George Mein

Tom Mitchell

Bill Walker

Prisoner of War

"There were two classes at the college,  one studying for the 2nd Class PMG and the other for the 1st Class.  All the 2nd Class students were ex-servicemen.

The students had some interesting stories to tell, but none more so than Bill Walker of Edinburgh.  Bill, nicknamed 'The Chief', was a product of Edinburgh's Royal High School.  His writing was more like hen's scratchings.  He was a cheerful chap, and had been at sea throughout the war.

He was a prisoner on the Altmark after his ship was sunk by the Admiral Graf Spee.  In defiance of international law, HMS Cossack intercepted the Altmark in Norwegian territorial waters and brought her prisoners to Leith.

This event occurred in February 1940 and, being a local boy of only 16, Bill made the lead story in the local paper."

Ian M Malcolm:  St Andrews, Fife, Scotland:  January 24, 2010

More Recollections

1947-48.

Ian has also written about digs, cinemas, dance halls and other aspects of his year in Edinburgh.  Here are links to these recollections.

 

Recollections

9.

John Leith

New Zealand

Thank you to John Leith who wrote:

TS Dolphin

"This old photo is of myself whilst doing my training on TS Dolphin at Leith in 1967.   I am on the back row,  2nd left.

1967

    Trainees at Leith Nautical College, Training Ship TS Dolphin, 1967 ©

It would be great to hear from any of my old class mates."

John Leith, New Zealand:  August 18+19, 2012

Please click on the thumbnail image above to enlarge it, and to see photos of HMS Dolphin and Leith Nautical College:

Reply to John

If you remember John and would like to send a reply to him, please email me, then I'll pass on his email address to you.

Peter Stubbs:  October 13, 2012

 

Recollections

9.

Reply

1.

Henry McKay

William Ferguson for sending me this message on behalf of Henry McKay:

TS Dolphin

"I was on TS Dolphin in 1967.  I am in the second tier, very left, in this photo.

1967

    Trainees at Leith Nautical College, Training Ship TS Dolphin, 1967 ©

I remember John Leith, Davy Sturrock and a few others.

Henry McKay.:  28 January 2015

 

Recollections

10.

Polly McCallum

Australia

Polly McCallum replied to Ian M Malcolm's Recollections 8 above

Polly wrote

Jim Dunkley

"Ian mentions knowing my father, Jim Dunkley.  Dad travelled from New Zealand to attend Leith Nautical College and met my Mother when staying in digs in Broughton Street.

Mum, dad and older brother travelled to Fiji where my father had a position with NZ Civil Aviation.  My twin brother and I were born there.

I grew up at the Top of Leith walk and attended local schools. Can you please advise."

Polly McCallum, Australia:  July 4, 2014

 

Recollections

11.

Roberta Murphy (née Rafferty

USA

Roberta Murphy wrote:

Arthur Rafferty

"My brother, Arthur Rafferty was born in 1939.

-   He attended St. Ignatius Primary School

-  He continued his education at St. Anthony's Secondary School.

-  In 1955, he was a student at Leith Nautical School, training for his sea-going career. Unfortunately, he was killed on December 30, 1955 during his first trip to South America.  I was twelve at the time.

It would be wonderful if someone remembered him and contacted me."

Roberta Murphy (née Rafferty):  July 12, 2014

Reply to Roberta?

If you remember Arthur Rafferty and would like to send a message to Roberta, please email me to let me know, than I'll pass on Roberta's email address to you.

Peter Stubbs, Edinburgh:  July 13. 2014

 

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A selection of my photographs, many from Edinburgh throughout the year.   Also photos from Scotland, London, Iceland, Italy, Hong Kong and elsewhere    Many old maps of Edinburgh (Old Town, New Town, while City), Leith and Newhaven.  Includes several old transport maps and a comparison of old maps with recent aerial photos.   Old engravings, mailly of Edinburgh scenes.  Some from the 1820s, some from the 1890s,  some others - includes many hand-coloured examples from the 1820s.   News from Edinburgh today  -  Events, Collections, Buildings and Gardens, Transport   This site includes     1. Post card portraits taken in studios in Edinburgh:    2. Post card views either takeen/published by Ediburgh photographers or views of Edinburgh, or both.y Edinburgh    Views of Edinburgh, grouped into three sections:     1. Street views:    2. Buildings:    3. Around Edinburgh   Views of transport around Edinburgh  -  Horse drawn trams and buses, cable cars, electric trams, buses and a few railway photos.  Also several maps of Edinburgh's bus and tram routes.   Links to pages with Photos of Groups   Frequently Asked Questions

  Summary of the updates added to this site each month since the site was launched   Links to Dumbiedykes pages  Link to Granton pages  Link to Leith pages   Link to Newhaven pages   Links to Portobello pages   Link to My Recent Talks