I had originally captioned this picture:
Princes Street', a title that I may
have taken from the back of the photo.
in his reply (below) Alan Brotchie tells me that this photo was in fact
taken in Castle Terrace
Castle Terrace - Late 1920s?
Reproduced by courtesy Lothian Buses plc
Char-a-bancs in Castle Terrace
This photograph is labelled 22 May 1921 on the back.
i.e. the same day
as photos below were taken of char-a-bancs beside the National
Galleries at the Foot of the Mound.
However, on seeing the photo above, Roger Atkinson,
editor of Roads & Road Transport Association's newsletter
investigated further and consulted with member Roy Larkin who
spoke to Mike Sutcliffe.
Castle Terrace Photo
"We looked at the tyres, then the
wheels, then at headlights and sidelights, and finally at the hats
worn by some, but not all of the ladies.
The tyres are pneumatics, the wheels
are discs, not spokes and some, but not all, of the ladies' hats
are redolent of dancing the Charlston.
Edinburgh Corporation Vehicles
"Mike Sutcliffe quickly identified the
line up in this photo as being 9 Leyland charabancs of
- 'Model L's - built 1919
(27 seats, 6 rows) and
- 'Model O1's - built 1920 (32
seats, 7 rows).
They were on solid tyres when new.
They received bus bodies in the winter months of 1920-21 and
1921-22, reverting to charas for the summers.
Pneumatic tyres may have been fitted
quite early in terms of any heavy vehicles being fitted with
pneumatics, say 1925-26.
The Mound Photos
"Turning to the picture of the
charabancs at The Mound:
Solid tyres, less sophisticated
bodywork on the charas, less sophisticated hats on the ladies.
Let us readily concede 1921 for that
Roger Atkinson, Chester, Cheshire, England:
May 10, 2007
Can you help to give a more
accurate date for the photograph above?
Do you know in which years
charabancs departed from Castle Terrace or when Edinburgh charabancs were
fist fitted with pneumatic tyres?
If you can help to date this
please e-mail me.
- Peter Stubbs: May 11, 2007
Thank you to Alan Brotchie,
Kirkcaldy, Fife, author of several books on transport in and around
Edinburgh, for sending me the following comment - not about
the date of this photo, but about its location!
"Your view of 'Charabancs in
Princes Street' is not of Princes Street, but of Castle Terrace!
It was possibly
taken from Synod Hall.
road is curved (Princes Street is not) and at that date there were tram
lines in Princes Street".
Alan Brotchie, Kirkcaldy, Fife, Scotland: June 13,