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Photography in Edinburgh by Robert Blomfield

Where is it?

ANSWER:  Freer Street, Fountainbridge

Photo

14.

A Play Street in Edinburgh with 'razor edge' Triumph and lamp post   -  1960

Photograph taken in Edinburgh, 1960  -  Where is it?

© Robert Blomfield                                                                                                                             Photo taken 1960

 

Photography in Edinburgh by Robert Blomfield

Photo 14

Where is it?

This is one of a large collection of photos taken by Robert Blomfield  in Edinburgh between 1956 and 1967.  Robert's brother, John is in the process of scanning and cataloguing the photos.

He'd like to discover where this photo was taken.  If you recognise the location, please email me, then I'll pass on the news to John.

Thank you

Peter Stubbs, Edinburgh:  March 16, 2013

 

Photo 14

Replies

1.

Simon Capaldi
Sheriffhall, Midlothian, Scotland

Jameson Place  Pilrig

2.

Peter Stubbs
Sheriffhall, Midlothian, Scotland

PROBABLY NOT Jameson Place  Pilrig

3.

Peter Stubbs
Sheriffhall, Midlothian, Scotland

NOT Jameson Place  Pilrig

4.

Neil Lawrence
Fountainbridge, Edinburgh

NOT Jameson Place  Pilrig

5.

Forbes Wilson
near Guildford, Surrey, England

Bedford Street  Stockbridge

6.

Peter Stubbs
Edinburgh

NOT Bedford Street  Stockbridge

7.

Terry Cox
Fountainbridge, Edinburgh

Freer Street  Fountainbridge

8.

Peter Stubbs
Edinburgh

Bedford Street  Stockbridge

9.

Bryan Gourlay
Biggar, Lanarkshire, Scotland

Bedford Street  Stockbridge

10.

Simon Capaldi
Sheriffhall, Midlothian, Scotland

NOT Freer Street  Fountainbridge

11.

Allan Dodds
Nottingham, Nottinghamshire, England

Heriot Hill Terrace  Canonmills

12.

Peter Stubbs
Edinburgh

NOT Heriot Hill Terrace  Canonmills

13.

Neil Lawrence
Fountainbridge, Edinburgh

Freer Street  Fountainbridge

14.

Betty Hepburn
(
née Boland)

Waikanae, Kapiti Coast, New Zealand

Freer Street  Fountainbridge

15.

Simon Capaldi
Sheriffhall, Midlothian, Scotland

Freer Street  Fountainbridge

16.

John Fraser
Inch, Edinburgh

NOT Jameson Place  Pilrig

17.

Stuart Lyon
Blackford, Edinburgh

NOT Bedford Street  Stockbridge

18.

John Moyes
Sheriffhall, Midlothian, Scotland

Freer Street  Fountainbridge

19.

Livia Dyckhoff

Thorntree Street  Leith

20.

Terry Cox
Fairmilehead, Edinburgh

Freer Street  Fountainbridge

21.

Peter Stubbs
Edinburgh

The Discussion Continues

22.

Livia Dyckhoff

Thorntree Street  Leith

23.

David Millan

Freer Street  Fountainbridge

My Conclusion
 (based on all the above)

 Photo 14 was taken at Freer Street, Fountainbridge

 

Photo 14

Reply

1.

Simon Capaldi

Sheriffhall, Midlothian, Scotland

Thank you to Simon Capaldi for sending a quick reply.

Simon wrote:

Jameson Place

    Photograph taken in Edinburgh, 1960  -  Where is it? ©

"This photo is of Jameson Place off Leith Walk.

There used to be an old depot at the end of the street.  You can see it at the back of this photo."

Simon Capaldi, Sheriffhall, Midlothian, Scotland:  March 16, 2013

But see further replies below

 

Photo 14

Reply

2.

Peter Stubbs

Edinburgh

Is this Jameson Place?

    Photograph taken in Edinburgh, 1960  -  Where is it? ©

Unlikely

I visited Jameson Place this afternoon and compared it with Robert Blomfield's photo taken in 1960.  The buildings that I saw at the west end of the street, close to its junction with Lieth Walk were built in the late 19thj century.  They have stone plaques giving the dates '1895' and '1896'.

The buildings in Robert Blomfield's Photo 1 below also seem likely to  be 19th century, but the style of stonework does not seem to match the buildings in Photos 14a  and 14b, so I believe that Robert's photo must be of a different street.

Below is a copy of Robert's photo, followed by two photos that I took this afternoon.

Photo

14.

1960

Photograph taken in Edinburgh, 1960  -  Where is it?

© Robert Blomfield                                                                                                                                  Photo taken 1960

Photo

14a.

2013

West end of the street (by junction with Leith Walk)  -  looking east

Jameson Street, off Leith Walk  -  March 2013

©  Copyright: Peter Stubbs                                                                                                     Photo taken 17 March 2013

Photo

14b.

2013

Centre of the street  -  looking east

Jameson Street, off Leith Walk  -  March 2013

©  Copyright: Peter Stubbs                                                                                                     Photo taken 17 March 2013

Peter Stubbs:  March 17, 2013

 

Photo 14

Reply

3.

Peter Stubbs

Edinburgh

Is this Jameson Place?

    Photograph taken in Edinburgh, 1960  -  Where is it? ©

No

I took Photo 14c below near the east end of Jameson Place on 18 March, the day after taking photos 14a and 14b above.

Photo 4 shows that in Jameson Place:

-  there are ribbed lintels with overhangs above the windows on the floor above the ground floor, on both sides of the street.

-  many of the windows on both sides of the street are in pairs.

Neither of these features can be found on Photo 1 below, so I conclude that Photo 1 is not a photograph of Jameson Place.

Photo

14.

1960

Photograph taken in Edinburgh, 1960  -  Where is it?

© Robert Blomfield                                                                                                                                  Photo taken 1960

Photo

14c.

2013

East end of the Jameson Place, near the junction with Leith Walk  -  looking east

Jameson Street, off Leith Walk  -  March 2013

©  Copyright: Peter Stubbs                                                                                                     Photo taken 18 March 2013

 

Photo 14

Reply

4.

Neil Lawrence

Fountainbridge, Edinburgh

Neil Lawrence agrees that this photo is not Jameson Place

Neil wrote:

Not Jameson Place

    Photograph taken in Edinburgh, 1960  -  Where is it? ©

"I can't agree that this photo was taken in Jameson Place.  The banding of stones along the front of the tenements doesn't match that street.

I'm not sure where it actually is yet, but I'm working on it."

Neil Lawrence, Fountainbridge, Edinburgh:  March 19, 2013

I agree, Neil.  I think it would be safe to assume that the 1960 photo was not taken in Jameson Place.

Peter Stubbs, Edinburgh:  March 24, 2013

 

Photo 14

Reply

5.

Forbes Wilson

near Guildford, Surrey, England

Thank you to Forbes Wilson who wrote:

Not Jameson Place

    Photograph taken in Edinburgh, 1960  -  Where is it? ©

"This photo bears a striking similarity to Bedford Street in Stockbridge."

Forbes Wilson, near Guildford, Surrey, England:  March 23, 2012

 

Comment in response to

Reply

5.

Thank you to Forbes Wilson for also sending me a photograph of Bedford Street, Stockbridge, to compare with Robert Blomfield's 1960 photo.

 I'll add the picture that Forbes sent to the EdinPhoto web site if I can get copyright permission to add it to the site.  However, my first impression on seeing the photo that Forbes sent to me is that the buildings at the end of the street in his photo don't match the buildings at the end of the street in the 1960 photo.

I believe that Photo 10 is of Bedford Street, Stockbridge.

Photo 10

   Photograph taken in Edinburgh, 1960  -  Where is it? ©

However, evidence seems to be growing in support of the argument that Photo 14 is of Freer Street, Fountainbridge.

Photo 10

   Photograph taken in Edinburgh, 1960  -  Where is it? ©

Peter Stubbs, Edinburgh, April 4, 2013

  

Photo 14

Reply

6.

Peter Stubbs

Edinburgh

Not Bedford Street

    Photograph taken in Edinburgh, 1960  -  Where is it? ©

After reading the comments from Forbes Wilson in his 'Reply 5' above, I photographed Bedford Street in March 2013 (14d below).  However, I see no evidence of it being the same street as in the 1960 photo (14 below).

-   Photo 14 shows tenements on both sides of the street..

-  Photo 14d shows tenements on just one side of the street and newer housing on the other side, but:

-    In Photo 14b, there are gardens between the tenements and the street.

-  The stonework and windows of the tenements appear to be different in the Photos 14 and 14d.

My conclusion:   The street in the 1960s photo is NOT Bedford Street.

Photo

14.

1960

Is this a photo of Bedford Street, Stockbridge?   I think 'No'.

See my comments about photos 14 and 14d above.

Photograph taken in Edinburgh, 1960  -  Where is it?

© Robert Blomfield                                                                                                                                  Photo taken 1960

Photo

14d.

2013

Looking to the south up Bedford Street, Stockbridge

Bedford Street, Stockbridge  -  March 2013

©  Copyright: Peter Stubbs                                                                                                     Photo taken 25 March 2013

UPDATE

Please see Reply 8 below

Peter Stubbs, Edinburgh:  March 27, 2013

 

Photo 14

Reply

7.

Terry Cox

Fairmilehead, Edinburgh

Thank you to Terry Cox who wrote:

Is it Freer Street?

    Photograph taken in Edinburgh, 1960  -  Where is it? ©

"I'm waiting to be shot down in flames, but this photo looks a bit like Freer Street, where Asa Wass' office used to be, just off Fountainbridge.

I can't find any pictures of Freer Street, and it's been gone for about 40 odd years, so I'm relying on memory.  Someone might be able to prove (or disprove) this, and there are  probably some of your correspondents who will know Freer Street better than I do, so I only punt it as a possibility."

Terry Cox, Fairmilehead, Edinburgh:  March 27, 2013

 

Photo 14

Reply

8.

Peter Stubbs

Edinburgh

Bedford Street?

Perhaps I was too hasty in ruling out the possibility of this street being Bedford Street.

    Photograph taken in Edinburgh, 1960  -  Where is it? ©

Having found another photo of Bedford Street, taken in the early-1960s, already on the EdinPhoto web site (which I've numbered 14e below), I've reached the conclusion that:

a)  The style of the tenements on the right-hand side of Photo 14 is a good match for those on the right-hand side of 14e.

b)  There is no match in Photo 14 for the house with the gable in Photo 14e, but perhaps Photo 14 was taken from closer to the far end of the street.

c)  The building at the far end of the street still puzzles me.  There appears to be a different building there in all three photos!

c)  The style of the tenements in Photo 14 is a good match for those on the in 14f.  The buildings in the background of these two photos also appear to match.

d)  Photo 14d looks up Bedford Street, but I believe that the tenements on BOTH sides of Bedford Street must have been demolished.  What we are seeing on the right-hand side of this picture  14d is the the tenements in Dean Park Street and their back gardens.

Conclusion

Photo 14 may well be of Bedford Street.

But, what is the building at the end of the street in this photo? 

    Photograph taken in Edinburgh, 1960  -  Where is it? ©

In his reply about Photo 10 (numbered 14f below) Neil Lawrence mentions that he has been able to match these buildings against a recent Google Streetview.  I'll see if I can discover more about this Streetview from Neil.

Peter Stubbs, Edinburgh:  March 30, 2013

Photo

14.

1960

Where is it?

See my comments about photos 14, 14e and 14d above.

Photograph taken in Edinburgh, 1960  -  Where is it?

© Robert Blomfield                                                                                                                                  Photo taken 1960

Photo

14e.

Early 1960s

Bedford Street, Stockbridge, View from Dean Park Street End

Bedford Street, Stockbridge - Early-1960s

©  Reproduced with acknowledgement to Eddie Duffy, Fox Covert, Edinburgh                   Photographer not known

Photo

14f.

Children  playing and washing hanging out in a Play Street  -  1964
This is Photo 10 of Robert Blomfield's 1960s photos recently added to the EdinPhoto web site.
It was identified by Neil Lawrence as being a photo of Bedford Street.

Photograph taken in Edinburgh, 1964  -  Where is it?

© Robert Blomfield                                                                                                                                Photo taken 1964

Photo

14d.

2013

Looking to the south up Bedford Street, Stockbridge

Bedford Street, Stockbridge  -  March 2013

©  Copyright: Peter Stubbs                                                                                                     Photo taken 25 March 2013

Update to

Reply

8.

Photo 14

    Photograph taken in Edinburgh, 1960  -  Where is it? ©

The building at the end of this street in Photo 14 looks industrial to me, with its large squarish windows and large doorway facing the end of the street.  Can anybody tell me if there was once some industry there?

Peter Stubbs, Edinburgh:  March 30, 2013

 

Photo 14

Reply

9.

Bryan Gourlay

Biggar, Lanarkshire, Scotland

Thank you to Bryan Gourlay for responding to my comments in 'Reply 8' above.

Bryan wrote:

Bedford Street

All Tenements Now Demolished

"I'm sure you are right saying the tenements on both sides of Bedford Street have been demolished.

My great, great grandparents lived in Bedford Street in the 1850s and my great grandfather was born nearby in Allan Street which has also been knocked down apart from a few yards close to Raeburn Place.

Here is a Google Earth picture in which you can see a recent view of Bedford Street:

Google Earth View

Bedford Street, Stockbridge is centre-left in this view

©  Google Earth web site, with acknowledgement to Bryan Gourlay
 Biggar, Lanarkshire, Scotland for providing a copy of the photo.
 

Today's Bedford Street is as you describe it in 14d, with the back gardens of Dean Park Street on one side and newish buildings on the other."

Bryan Gourlay, Biggar, Lanarkshire, Scotland:  March 28, 2013

In the photo above, Dean Park Street and Bedford Street are the two streets running vertically through the picture, above the street names.  (I got a new version of Photoshop today and have still to learn how to draw arrows on maps!)

The alignment of Bedford Street when it had tenements on either side was more diagonal, as the map below shows.  Dean Park Street leads vertically down from the top of this map.  When travelling down Dean Park Street, Bedford Street is the first street on the left (i.e. towards the top-right corner of the map.

1925 Map

Bedford Street, Stockbridge is just to the right of the centre at the top of this map.

© Peter Stubbs  Please contact peter.stubbs@edinphoto.org.uk for permission to reproduce

Peter Stubbs, Edinburgh:  March 29, 2012

 

Photo 14

Reply

10.

Simon Capaldi

Sheriffhall, Midlothian, Scotland

Thank you to Simon Capaldi for for writing again.

Simon wrote:

Not Freer Street?

    Photograph taken in Edinburgh, 1960  -  Where is it? ©

"I would suggest that this photo is definitely not Freer Street.  Freer Street had a canal at the end and the houses were two-stories tall."

Simon Capaldi, Sheriffhall, Midlothian, Scotland:  March 28, 2013

Not Freer Street?

Hi Simon:  I don't remember Freer Street myself.  However there are others who remember it and have told me about it.  They remember the tenements being more than two stories high.

In 'Recollections 14' below, I refer to the book:  "Water Under The Bridge".  There is a copy of a painting of Freer Street on the front of that book.  It also shows the tenements in Freer Street to be several (4) stories high.

If photo 14 is of Freer Street, it may be looking to the north down DFreer Street to the main road, Fountainbridge.  i.e. the photographer may have had his back to the canal when he took Photo 14.

 

Photo 14

Reply

11.

Allan Dodds

Nottingham, Nottinghamshire, England

Thank you to Allan Dodds who wrote:

Is it Heriot Hill Terrace?

    Photograph taken in Edinburgh, 1960  -  Where is it? ©

"This photo looks like Heriot Hill, opposite the Ritz in Rodney Street.  You have a picture of Heriot Hill Terrace on the EdinPhoto web site."

Terry Cox, Fairmilehead, Edinburgh:  March 28, 2013

 

Photo 14

Reply

12.

Peter Stubbs

Edinburgh

Here are:

-  Photo 14, which we are trying to identify, followed by

-  Photo 14g, a picture of the Coronation Party in Heriot Hill Terrace that Allan Dodds mentions in 'Reply 11' above.

-  Photo 14h, which I took in Heriot Hill Terrace on

I cannot see enough detail in the background of Photo 14g to decide whether or this looks like same street as is in Photo 14.  However, the back of a road sign can be seen near the right-hand side of Photo 14g which looks as if it may be 'Play Street' road sign seen in Photo 14.

There is a Incidentally, I think I recall seeing a 'Play Street' road sign near the Rodney Street end of Heriot Hill Terrace a few years ago, but it has now been taken away. 

Conclusion

The style of buildings in Photos 14 and 14h appear to be different.  The positions of the windows and lintels in the two photos do not match.  So Photo 14 appears NOT to be Heriot Hill Terrace.

Peter Stubbs, Edinburgh:  March 30, 2013

Photo

14.

1960  -  Where is it?

Photograph taken in Edinburgh, 1960  -  Where is it?

© Robert Blomfield                                                                                                                                  Photo taken 1960

Photo

14g.

1953  -  Heriot Hill Terrace

Looking to the west towards The Ritz cinema in Rodney Street.

Heriot Hill Terrace  -   Coronation Street Party  -  1953

© Reproduced with acknowledgement to Jim Duncan and Anne Simons                              Photo taken:  June 2, 1953

Photo

14.

(again)

1960  -  Where is it?

Photograph taken in Edinburgh, 1960  -  Where is it?

© Robert Blomfield                                                                                                                                  Photo taken 1960

Photo

14h.

2013  -  Heriot Hill Terrace

View looking east from Rodney Street.

Heriot Hill Terrace, oppposite the site where The Ritz cinema once stood  -  Photo taken, 2013

©  Copyright: Peter Stubbs  -   please contact peter.stubbs@edinphoto.org.uk                     Photo taken March 28, 2013

 

 

Photo 14

Reply

13.

Neil Lawrence

Fountainbridge, Edinburgh

Neil Lawrence wrote:

Photo

14.

Photograph taken in Edinburgh, 1960  -  Where is it?

© Robert Blomfield                                                                                                                                  Photo taken 1960

Neil wrote: 

Freer Street

Fountainbridge

"This photo could be Freer Street because these features.:

-  The buildings at the end of the road

-  The jutting out building on the left and

-  Tenements, longer on the right-hand side

All these features match buildings that I have seen that were next to the canal."

Neil Lawrence, Fountainbridge, Edinburgh:  March 28, 2013

Map

1894

Thank you to Neil Lawrence for sending me this extract from a large-scale map of the area around Freer Street:

Estract from a large scale 1894 map ofthe Freer Streer area of Fountainbridge

© Ordnance Survey 1:500 Town Plan of 1894 is reproduced with  acknowledgement to Neil Lawrence, Fountainbridge, Edinburgh

 

Reply

14.

Betty Hepburn (née Boland)

Waikanae, Kapiti Coast, New Zealand

Thank you to Betty Hepburn who wrote

Freer Street?

    Photograph taken in Edinburgh, 1960  -  Where is it? ©

"Like Terry Cox, my hubby, Peter, thinks this is of Freer Street, Fountainbridge. Peter's Granny Hepburn lived there.  I may be wrong, but Peter's mother, Annie Hepburn (née Campbell) and his Aunt Begbie (née Campbell) also believe that the photo would have been taken in Freer Street."

We have a copy off the Book "Water Under The Bridge".  On the  front cover, there is an artist's drawing which shows a view of Freer Street taken from the bottom of the street.

Freer Street Church Hall was there. Hubby attended Sunday School there.  The book is very interesting.  It has lots off wee stories and photos donated from the locals."

Betty Hepburn (née Boland), Waikanae, Kapiti Coast, New Zealand:  March 17, 2012

Painting - 1953

I also have a copy of the book the book, "Water Under The Bridge".  The book has a cover illustration is of a painting by George Brown titled:

"The Queen's Visit to Freer Street, 1953".

The scene in this painting looks to the north down Freer Street to the main road, Fountainbridge.  The Royal horses and coaches are passing along Fountainbridge past the end of Freer Street.

The housing in George Brown's painting looks to me to be a  good match for Photo 14 above.  However:

the painting looks to the north along Freer Street towards the main road, Fountainbridge, but

-  as the map sent by Neil Lawrence in 'Reply 13' above shows, the photo looks to the south along Freer Street, towards the canal.

I'll add a copy of this painting to the EdinPhoto web site if I am able to contact the artist and get his permission to add it to the web site.

Freer Street

My conclusion at this stage is that it seems very likely to me that the scene in Photo 14 is Freer Street.

Peter Stubbs, Edinburgh:  March 31, 2013

 

Photo 14

Reply

15.

Simon Capaldi

Sheriffhall, Midlothian, Scotland

Thank you to Simon Capaldi for writing again, following up the comments he left in his 'Reply 10' above.

Simon wrote:

Freer Street?

"I must do an  'about turn'.

My friend confirms that this photo is of Freer Street, looking south:

    Photograph taken in Edinburgh, 1960  -  Where is it? ©

He was born there in 1932 at No. 3.

The mission hall served as a nursery during the week and as a Sunday School on Sundays. The steps on the left led to a terrace next to the canal.   I think the late 1800's map has the hall slightly off centre."

Simon Capaldi, Sheriffhall, Midlothian, Scotland:  March 28, 2013

 

Photo 14

Reply

16.

John Fraser

Inch, Edinburgh

Thank you to John Fraser for sending me a little information about Jameson Place and for confirming, as others have done above, that this photo is not of Jameson Place.

John  wrote:

Not Jameson Place

"This photo is definitely not Jameson Place."

  Photograph taken in Edinburgh, 1960  -  Where is it? ©

"Although it looks similar:

at the end of the street in Jameson Place was John Gibson and Son Ltd. Motor Engineers.  It was originally an open yard, but had been roofed over.  I worked there 1951 to 1965, but moved to their new building in Lorne Street.

-  At the end of the street at Leith Walk was a Post office on one corner and a pub on the other.

Lorne Street Primary school playground was on the left hand side looking East.

John Fraser, Inch, Edinburgh:  9 May 2013

Not Jameson Place

Agreed, John.  the photo is not of Jameson Place, Pilrig.

It is of Freer Street, Tollcross.

Peter Stubbs, Edinburgh:  May 9, 2013
 

 

Photo 14

Reply

17.

Stuart Lyon

Blackford, Edinburgh

Thank you to Stuart Lyon who wrote:

Not Bedford Street

"I just thought I would put my tuppence worth in on this debate.

  Photograph taken in Edinburgh, 1960  -  Where is it? ©

My Granny lived in Bedford Street and I spent a lot of time there in the 1950s.  I cannot recall any building in Bedford Street that jutted out such as the one in the picture under discussion.

Stuart Lyon, Blackford, Edinburgh: 5 April 2013 (with apologies to Stuart for
 having  taking a long time to add  his comments above to the EdinPhoto web site

Not Bedford Street

Agreed, Stuart.  the photo is not of Bedford Street, Stockbridge.

It is of Freer Street, Tollcross.

Peter Stubbs, Edinburgh:  May 10, 2013
 

 

Photo 14

Reply

18.

John Moyes

Thank you to Stuart Lyon who wrote:

Freer Street

      Photograph taken in Edinburgh, 1960  -  Where is it? ©

"The photograph is definitely Freer Street and it was taken from the East side of the Street. The building in the distance is the Uniroyal Tyre Factory."

Freer Street Terrace

"Freer Street was a cul de sac, but running off it was Freer Street Terrace. That was on the East side of the Street (left hand side as you look at the photograph), right at the very bottom of the Street with the Union Canal immediately behind it. It was accessed by two short flights of steps and there were two tenements in the Terrace."

The Tenements

"At the time that the photograph was taken I worked in the National Assistance Board and Freer Street and Freer Street Terrace were part of my territory. I visited there almost every day so I knew it very well indeed.. The tenements in the Street, and even more so the Terrace, were in very bad condition. It was necessary to be very careful when going to any of the houses in the Terrace.

The wooden stairway was almost completely rotten and keeping very close to the wall was the only comparatively safe way up.

Freer Street itself was not quite so bad, but still far from pleasant.  Most of the houses in the tenements were 'Room and kitchen' (some had two rooms). Even in the 1960s few had running hot water and there were almost no baths, only WCs."

The Residents

"The people living in Freer Street and Freer Street Terrace were in three broad groups:

-  A few were working families (most of the men worked in the Uniroyal factory).

-  A much larger number were pensioners who had lived there mostly for a long time.

-  The third group were more transitory residents and most of them were long-term unemployed; a few were single parents.

People generally moved into Freer Street and Terrace because there were very few other places for them to go.

As an aside, many of them moved quite frequently between Freer Street and Bedford Street and Dean Street in Stockbridge."

Bedford Street

    ©

Some Houses in Good Repair

"I shouldn’t leave you with the impression that all the houses in Freer Street were dire. Many were well kept and comfortably furnished, but the staircases and the various common areas were all in poor shape.

Those who flitted in and out had by far the worst of it. Their houses were almost all in bad repair and squalid by any standards.  They were usually let 'furnished', something of an exaggeration."

John Moyes:  September 17, 2014

 

Photo 14

Reply

19.

Livia Dyckhoff

Edinburgh

Thank you to Livia Dyckhoff  who wrote:

Thorntree Street

      Photograph taken in Edinburgh, 1960  -  Where is it? ©

"I am positive that this is not Freer Street, but the cul-de-sac end of Thorntree Street. (I used to live down the far end on the right hand side from 1998 until last year.) - EH6 8PU.

-  This Google Street View shows  a 'Play Street' sign, still up.

-  In the far distance, it looks like the bingo hall.

-  Also, there used to be an old warehouse-like building. It can be sen in the picture above.

-  The line of the windows, including stepping down a bit as you go down the street, looks like a match

- Even the painted shop corner at the extreme left of the picture matches up."

Livia Dyckhoff, Edinburgh:  September 29, 2014

 

Photo 14

Reply

20

Terry Cox

Fairmilehead, Edinburgh

Thank you to Terry Cox who emailed me after reading Reply 18 above (and before I had chance to add Reply 19 above to the web site).

Terry wrote

Freer Street

      Photograph taken in Edinburgh, 1960  -  Where is it? ©

"I'm Fair chuffed to see that the photo turned out to be Freer Street, as I suspected. It means that maybe my memory isn't as shaky as I thought it was

Terry Cox, Fairmilehead,  Edinburgh, October 3, 2014

 

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Peter Stubbs

Edinburgh

Where is it?

Photograph taken in Edinburgh, 1960  -  Where is it?

© Robert Blomfield                                                                                                                             Photo taken 1960

The Discussion Continues

"I thought that discussion of this photo had probably come to an end in May 2013, but it has started up again now!

 So far, 20 replies have been received in support of and against a number of streets.  See the results below in which I've listed the streets in the order that they were suggested and allocated SCORES = Number of 'YES's  LESS  Number of 'NO's ***

-  Jameson Place  Pilrig

YES  1 

NO  4

SCORE - 3

-  Bedford Street  Stockbridge

YES  3 

NO  2

SCORE +1

-  Freer Street  Fountainbridge

YES  7 

NO  1

SCORE +6

-  Heriot Hill Terrace Canonmills

YES  1 

NO  1

SCORE   0

-  Thorntree Street  Leith

YES 1 

NO  1

SCORE   0

Freer Street has come out as the clear favourite, but not everybody agrees.  See Reply 19 above."

Peter Stubbs, Edinburgh:  October 3, 2014

***  The results above have now been updated to include Reply 22 below.

 

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Livia Dyckhoff

Edinburgh

Thank you to Livia Dyckhoff  for writing again telling me of correspondence on this City Cycling Edinburgh forum page:

Not Thorntree Street

BUT

Freer Street

      Photograph taken in Edinburgh, 1960  -  Where is it? ©

"Regular contributor, kaputnik makes the following comments, supporting his view that the photo above is of Freer Street, not Thorntree Street. (I've added my own comments are in brackets.)

-  The street in this photo appears to run downhill at a faster rate than Thorntree Street (based on how frequently the stretcher courses in each block drop a level).

-  The building at the end matches closely with the general profile and look of the Castle Mills rubber works, which would have been at the end of Freer Street at this time. At the end of Thorntree Street was the Capitol Cinema (now Mecca bingo). It's profile would have been the same in the old photo as it is now, but I don't think it matches.

-  There was a low building at the end of Freer Street which jutted out slightly, this can be corroborated on the maps. No such building existed on Thorntree Street, a back wall of a yard was where the new houses are now, but they followed the line of the tenements. Also, there was a gap on the left between the tenements and the factory where there was a mission hall.

- The number of blocks of tenements match the map for Freer Street, as does the left hand being shorter than the right hand."

Livia Dyckhoff, Edinburgh:  October 3, 2014

 

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David Millan

Thank you to David Millan for writing about this photo.

David wrote:

Freer Street

Sweetie Shop

"This photo is, without doubt, Freer Street. 

Photograph taken in Edinburgh, 1960  -  Where is it? ©

I was born in 169 Fountainbridge in 1945, and spent many evenings of my childhood standing under the lamppost on the right of the picture where a wee sweetie shop was.  You can see the shop window clearly."

The End of the Street

"The building at the end of the street is North British Rubber Mill. The entrance there was never used to my knowledge."

At the end, to the left of the picture, there was the passage way to Freer Street Terrace.  This was described by Harold Wilson as “the worst slum in Europe” at the time of his visit.

To the right at the end was St Cuthbert’s Church Mission. I went to the Sunday School there."

Another Photo

"There is a photograph in the archives of the Central Library of Freer Street, taken from the other end of the street.  In that, the telephone exchange building on the corner of Gardners Crescent & Fountainbridge can be clearly seen.

I wonder if it was taken by the same photographer at the same time. The Archive people didn’t know anything about it until I identified the location for them."

David Millan:  December 13, 2014

Hi David:

Thanks for your comments.

Yes, I'm convinced that this photo is of Freer Street.

Photograph taken in Edinburgh, 1960  -  Where is it? ©

 If I update the table in Reply 21 above to include the comments in Replies 22 and 23 and my own views, the results become:*

-  Jameson Place  Pilrig

SCORE - 3

-  Bedford Street  Stockbridge

SCORE +1

-  Freer Street  Fountainbridge

SCORE +9

-  Heriot Hill Terrace Canonmills

SCORE   0

-  Thorntree Street  Leith

SCORE   0

Peter Stubbs, Edinburgh,  December 14, 2014

 

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