Lorry and Railway Truck beside the Railway

Where is it?

Where and when might this photo have been taken?

Lorry and railway truck beside the railway. Where and when might this photo have been taken.

©  Photo from the Edinburgh Corporation Transport Collection reproduced with acknowledgement to Lothian Buses
and taken from a print from the original glass plate made by John Dickson, Royston, Edinburgh

 

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    Lorry and railway truck beside the railway. Where and when might this photo have been taken. ©

 

Questions

Where and When?

Where and when might this photo have been taken? The photo has been printed by John Dickson from a glass slide belonging to Edinburgh Corporation Transport Department.  Many of the other photos in this collection were taken around the 1920s and 1930s.

Perhaps the large shed in the background might be recognised  by somebody.  Might it be at Leith Docks?

The Lorry

Is the lorry in this photo a Leyland?

Acknowledgement:  John Dickson, Royston, Edinburgh:  February 27, 2012

Reply

1.

Allan Dodds

Nottingham, Nottinghamshire, England

Thank you to Allan Dodds for writing, confirming that the vehicle in this photo was a Leyland truck.

Allan wrote:

The Lorry

"I think that the Leyland truck with solid tyres and no front brakes was probably manufactured between 1910 and 1919, but I've no idea where the picture was taken."

Allan Dodds, Nottingham, Nottinghamshire, England

 

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2.

John Dickson

Nottingham, Nottinghamshire, England

Thank you to John Dickson who wrote:

The Lorry

   Lorry and railway truck beside the railway. Where and when might this photo have been taken. ©

"I think that this photo of the Leyland truck would probably have been taken at Leith.

It is likely to be in the Edinburgh Corporation Transport Department collection of photos because the the lorry would have been converted from a bus."

John Dickson, Royston, Edinburgh:  March 26, 2012

The Bus

John Dickson also sent me a photograph of a Leyland Bus, with what appears to be a similar chassis and wheels.

Here is a thumbnail image of the photo as it appears on the Scran web site.  (If you are a subscriber to the Scran service, you will also be able to enlarge this image.)

This photo comes from the Scottish Motor Museum Trust Collection.  The vehicle is described as a 'New Sign Written Leyland Bus with Croall Edinburgh style bodywork'.

 

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3.

Donald Grant

Penicuik, Midlothian, Scotland

Thank you to Donald Grant who wrote:

Charabanc

   Lorry and railway truck beside the railway. Where and when might this photo have been taken. ©

"As has been said, this vehicle is indeed a Leyland, but it was not a bus. It was in fact a 27 seat charabanc, delivered in August of 1919 to Edinburgh Corporation.

It was one of three, all painted grey.  They had registration numbers B8725, S9257 and S9258." ***

***  Source: Edinburgh's Transport, The Corporation Years [ DLG Hunter]

Charabancs in Summer

Lorries in Winter

"Whilst Hunter seems to make no further mention of the vehicles, it is known that it was common practice at SMT to remove charabanc bodies in winter months and fit lorry bodies, the charabanc bodies being refitted for the summer months.

It is, therefore, reasonable to assume the same policy possibly prevailed with Edinburgh Corporation. 

I noted whilst researching this that there was a miners' strike in 1921.  Tram services were cut back during the strike.  It looks like the lorry has a load of coal on board and, of  course, there's also that coal truck.

I wonder if that may point towards a date for the image."

Donald Grant, Penicuik, Midlothian, Scotland: March 31, 2012

 

 

  

 

 

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