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Recollections

Craigmillar and Niddrie

1940s - 1950s

1.

Irene ATKINS
Ashford, Kent, England

Old Women and Old Men

A Safe Place

German Plane

More German Planes

The White Hoose

2.

Cath TUFF
Warwickshire, England

The White House

3.

David THOMSON
Broughton, England

Craigmillar's Decline

Wauchope Estate

4.

Marion DEIGHAN
Edinburgh

My First TV

5.

John CLARK
Canada

Craigmillar Castle Gardens

6.

David BROWN
Craigmillar, Edinburgh

Schools and Housing

7.

Rod FRASER
Australia

Wauchope Estate

8.

Ralph MALTMAN
Canada

Home, School, Work

Neighbours

Jam Pieces

Shopping

Friends

9.

John CLARK
Canada

Growing up in Craigmillar

Family

10.

Jim COWAN

Station Road Craigmillar

Canada

Friends from Craigmillar

11.

Robert T KERR
British Columbia, Canada

Cairntows

Surroundings

Little France

12.

Jim CAMPBELL

Craigmillar to Canada

Craigmillar Schools

Return Visit to Edinburgh

Others from Craigmillar

13.

Archie FERGUSON
Vancouver, British Columbia, Canada

Craigmillar to Canada

14.

David BAIN
Rotherham, South Yorkshire

Craigmillar Primary School

Street Cries

15.

Connie CAMPBELL
Durham, England

Harewood Crescent

 

Recollections

1.

Irene Atkins

Ashford, Kent, England

Thank you to Bryan Gourlay, Biggar, Lanarkshire, Scotland,  for sending me these memories of Craigmillar in the early 1940s, written by his aunt, Irene Atkins.

Thank you also to Irene, who wrote:

Old Women and Old Men

"The Craigmillar I grew up in, in the early 1940s, is not the place it has become today. It was a world of women and old men, most of the young men having volunteered or been called up to fight for king and country.

The young women went to work to help boost the pittance they received from whichever service their husbands fought with. The old women stayed at home to look after the children of their sons and daughters.

The old men sat on the various benches around the area and regaled us children with tales of their daring do in ' the last one ' in such places as Paschendale, Cambrai and Vimy Ridge, whilst their wives used their meager sugar rations to provide us with such delights as toffee apples and barley twists."

A Safe Place

"Craigmillar was as safe a place as any then. We children played anywhere and everywhere without a care. I do not ever recall a burglary, break-in, child abduction or murder in my day.

The shops neither used shutters or grills when they closed after the day's business, and we only had one policeman called Bobby Munroe.

German plane

"However, exciting things did happen. Such as the German plane that crashed into the derelict grounds of Lady Wauchope's estate.

The other children and I saw the remains of the plane being loaded on to two flat-bed lorries. The very young German airman, who was the only survivor of the crash, was dragged from his hiding place in the woods and frog marched, with hands tied behind his back, covered in dirt and blood, to the police box at the bottom of the road.

I was unable to understand at that time why people jeered and spat on him. I must confess I felt sorry for the poor young man who must have been terrified out of his wits.

I also remember being taken to the gates of Portobello cemetery (Milton Road) to see the corteges of his dead companions pass through, where they might still lie today."

More German Planes

"I remember hanging out of the window with my mother watching a dog-fight in the sky above, with the lights out of course. Also, being wrapped in a huge pink quilt and going to the air raid shelter when the siren sounded, coming back hours later to find the cat had eaten our supper of fish and chips (mother nearly killed it).

I remember going with my mother to New Craighall to see the skeletal remains of the bombed-out houses where a German airman jettisoned his load over the village, having missed his target of Leith docks.

Irene Atkins, Ashford, Kent, England, formerly Wauchope, Craigmillar and Burdiehouse

with acknowledgement to Brian Gourlay, Biggar, Lanarkshire, Scotland, April 9, 2006

 

Recollections

2.

Cath Tuff

Warwickshire, England

Thank you to Cath Tuff, Warwickshire, England, who used to live at Craigmillar, for sending her memories.

Cath wrote:

The White House

   The Whitehouse Public House, Craigmillar ©

"My husband lived in Craigmillar from 1937.  He has great memories of the White Hoose as a boy.  He watched the fights from the window in the Loan (Craigmillar Castel) and  had his first pint of heavy there.

We moved to Niddrie Mill and had a few good laughs and close shaves there.

We now live in England and my husband can't get about, but we still talk about Craigmillar, and tell our grandsons about the White Hoose, and soon our great grandchildren will know all about it."

Cath Tuff, Warwickshire, England:  December 12, 2006

 

Recollections

3.

David Thomson

Broughton, Edinburgh

Thank you to David Thomson for sending his memories of Craigmillar.

David wrote:

Craigmillar's Decline

"I was born in the Craigmillar area and regretfully have seen the decline in the quality of life in the area.

There used to be full employment with 7 Breweries, Coal Pits. Steele's Sanitaryware manufacturing, etc. 

 The cows were brought down from the Castle Farm to be milked and folk won awards for Best Garden etc.  I delivered milk and never had any milk stolen from my barrow!  Folk left the money or token outside their door and it was never stolen. 

I have seen Greendykes being built, demolished, built again and now being demolished again, and I'm not even pensionable age! There's more decent folk in Craigmillar but its the age-old adage of the few bad apples ruin the box."

Wauchope Estate

"I have a book on General Wauchope and used to play in the Wauchope estate - a wonderful place,  The old cemetery is where General Wauchope brought a drummer or bugle boy who had been badly injured, back home from South Africa to have a decent place to die.

When the lad died, he buried him in the family graveyard at Niddrie.  Fascinating the history of a wee place in Edinburgh which has a vast wealth in history of industry and village life.  General Wauchope has a statue which stands at the junction of Market Street/Mound."

David Thomson, Broughton, Edinburgh:  February 15, 2007

 

Recollections

4.

Marion Deighan

Edinburgh

Thank you to Mary Deighan who wrote:

My First TV

"When I first got a TV in the late 1950s the screens were small and the gimmick was to buy an enlarger like a magnifying glass.

A guy came to the door.  He was well dressed and was not from the Edinburgh area.  In my opinion he was a conman, as I can spot a conman miles away.

He said: 'You can rent this magnifier for 2 shillings a week. I'll send one of my agents next week to pick up the payments.

When he saw and heard my husband and found out who my sons were, he got a bit nervous and I never saw him or his so-called agent ever again.

The glass screen was great as it magnified my wee TV to a 32 inch screen without being a blur.  It was one of the best bargains I had in Craigmillar.

I also used knitting needles to get a good picture until I got an aerial mounted on the roof."

Marion Deighan, Edinburgh:  March 29, 2007

Marion is the aunt of Eric Gold who has sent many recollections to the EdinPhoto web site.  Marion used to live in Arthur Street, Dumbiedykes then in Harewood Road, Craigmillar

 

Recollections

5.

John Clark

Canada

Thank you to John Clark who wrote:

Craigmillar Castle Gardens

"My Auntie Lizzie lived in Craigmillar Castle Gardens. People reading this in Hollywood would probably think, 'Wow, I simply must buy a house there.'

Sorry Maam, it wasn't that fancy, but it sure was a lot of fun. We would play football in the park next to the brewery,  It's still there.

We would go to free movies in the nissen huts from the war, and watch great movies for free.  It was freezing cold, but who cared if you were watching a free movie."

John Clark, Canada:  April 1, 2007

 

Recollections

6.

David Brown

Craigmillar, Edinburgh

Thank you to David Brown who wrote:

Schools and Housing

"I go back to Craigmillar 1938, when it was a great place to live.

Peffermill School was being built. We had to go to Prestonfield and the tin school, until it was ready.

People were poor but honest, with large families.  All you hear now is 'deprived area'. 

I've lived in the area for fifty years, ,and own my own home.  I'm very comfortably off because I worked for it."

David Brown, Craigmillar, Edinburgh:  August 12, 2008

 

Recollections

7.

Rod Fraser

Australia

Thank you to Rod Fraser who wrote:

Wauchope Estate

"I used to live in Wauchope Terrace in Craigmillar, back in the 1950s.  I used to play in the old Wauchope Estate grounds then and have many great memories of the time.

 I have a rough idea of where the paths went and what was there.  I was wondering if you have any maps of the layout of the old estate before the housing development?"

Rod Fraser, Australia:  August 7, 2008

Reply

For old maps of the area, I recommend contacting the Map Library of the National Library of Scotland.

Here is their email address.

Peter Stubbs:  August 7, 2008

 

Recollections

8.

Ralph Maltman

Canada

Thank you to Ralph Maltman who wrote:

Home, School, Work

"I grew up in Craigmillar from around 1938 or '39, and finally left to go to Canada in 1957

We lived at 21 Craigmillar Castle Terrace terrace. I attended Peffermill School, then moved on to Niddrie Marischal.  Later, I worked in the pits at Loanhead."

Neighbours

"I recall many happy memories living in Craigmillar and I can't recall any bad times.  Our parents used to go around the stair, either borrowing money for the gas meter or asking for a drop of milk or sugar."

Jam Pieces

"I remember having 'pieces' thrown out the window.  They they were usually jam only, not butter and jam. We never got butter, that was usually only for our dad.  But we thought nothing of that.  That's just the way it was."

Shopping

"We used to shop at the local shops  for our messages. The famous one I recall was Mrs Flett's on the main road in CraigmillarI think her name was Jean and her husband was Charlie."

Friends

"What great memories of those times, meeting all our friends on the corner of the Terrace and the Grove

the Andersons

the Wilsons

-  the Moyes

-  the Gunns

-  the Norrises.

So many memories.  There was nothing wrong with Craigmillar when we were growing up.  What happened?"

Ralph Maltman, Canada:  October 11, 2008

 

Recollections

9.

John Clark

Canada

Thank you to John Clark who wrote:

Growing up in Craigmillar

"I lived in and visited Craigmillar for long periods of time in the late 1940s, to stay with my cousins. Craigmillar was a great place to grow up and to play as a kid.

Oh yes, the young people were tough.  They had to be.  But they were honest and reliable in the majority."

Norris Family

"My cousins were:

-  Jim Norris

George Norris

Billy Norris.

Unfortunately Billy was killed in a terrible accident with a rocket flare gun that he and some friends had acquired and were fooling around with.

George died a few years ago of heart troubles, but I like to believe that Jim is still around and with us."

QUESTION

"Do you know Jim?  If so, please tell him I am asking for him.

Anyway, long live Craigmillar, it gave me many, many happy years in my young days."

Auntie Lizzie

"My Auntie Lizzie had a huge family, from two different husbands.  They were, starting at the eldest, and I hope I get this right:

-  Davey Bullock

-  Jessie Bullock

-  Nettie Bullock

-  Anna Bullock

-  Isabell Bullock

-  Stewart Norris

-  Billy Norris

-  Jim Norris

-  Mary Norris

-  George Norris

-  Marjorie Norris.

She also had one child who died as a baby.

I was in the age group between Billy and Jim. So you can imagine how entertaining life was at my Auntie Lizzie's place, and why I love Craigmillar so much.  Oh, happy days."

Ralph Maltman, Canada:  October 13+15, 2008

 

Recollections

10.

Jim Cowan

New Westminster, British Columbia, Canada

Thank you to Jim Cowan who wrote:

Station Road, Craigmillar

"From 1938 until I joined the Air Force in 1959, I lived in what was then Station Road, but was later changed to Peffer Street, Craigmillar.

We used to have quasi rivalry when at bon-fire time lads from Niddrie would try to set our collections of old furnishings and paper prematurely alight"

Canada

"I joined the Air Force in 1959, then five years later I ventured to the west coast of Canada, and here I still am, at New Westminster, near Vancouver.

Noreen Campbell, wife of Jim Campbell who lived at the same address as I did, 13 Station Road and now live in Edmonton, Canada, sent me this site just a half-hour ago."

Friends from Craigmillar

"I always wonder what became of:

-  my good buddy Charlie Scott.

-  his brothers Ian and David.

Jackie Loch.

David Crow.

Jeanette Mcdonald.

Jill Murray.

-  Big Donald McPherson.

-  Helen Meek.

-  Sheila Anderson.

-  Irene Allard.

a whole lot of others.

Jim Cowan, New Westminster, British Columbia, Canada:  January 24, 2009

Reply to Jim Cowan

Perhaps you recognise yourself or somebody else in Jim's list of names above.  If so, and if you'd like to get in touch with Jim, please email me, then I'll pass your message on to him.

Thank you.    -  Peter Stubbs:  January 24, 2009

  

Recollections

11.

Robert T Kerr

Vancouver, British Columbia, Canada

Thank you to Jim Cowan who wrote:

Cairntows

"My grandad (Bert Kerr) and his family lived at Cairntows (opposite Luci's Ice cream) As kids ,we loved a '99 ice cream (with choc. flake) in front of the television.

We loved visiting my Gran (Helen Wallace) Kerr, for the school holidays. I loved going to sleep at night, hearing the traffic outside (as we were based in the countryside at Loch Lomond) and waking to tea and digestives."

Surroundings

"I remember a beautiful gypsy woman who stayed in trailers (caravan) towards Portobello.

I remember the smell of breweries around, and the bowling green over gran's garden wall.

There was a light blue bubble car in the garage.

I remember my dad, Robert (Robin) Dundas and:

-  his brothers, Dundas and Colin

-  his sisters, Heather (very dark hair), Hazel (vey blonde hair)

-  Colin's wife, Christine ,and their children, Raymond and Grant

young Dundas and Katriona."

Little France

"I remember Little France and the Castle Farm and bailing in the fall (autumn). I remember my grandad watching steeplechasing on the television.

Those were the days!"

Robert T Kerr, Vancouver, British Columbia, Canada

 

Recollections

12.

Jim Campbell

St Albert, Alberta, Canada

Thank you to Jim Campbell who sent me these three photos of his schools at Craigmillar:

Jim wrote:

Craigmillar to Canada

"Jim Cowan (10 above) now living in Vancouver and I both grew up in Craigmillar, at 13 Station Road.

I left Edinburgh in 1956, living first in Toronto, and later in Edmonton, Alberta.  Presently my wife and I live in St. Albert, a smaller city that is almost attached to Edmonton. 

My sister, Helen Fowler, who now lives in Peterborough, Ontario, also sent a message about Cairntows  Craigmillar to the Edinphoto web site a while ago.

Craigmillar Schools

"I dug around and found these school pictures that you might like to add to the site.

Craigmillar Primary School

1950

Craigmillar Primary Schol Class  -  1949 ©

Craigmillar Primary School

1950

   Craigmillar Primary School Class ©

Niddrie Marischal School

1952 or 1953

   Niddrie Marischal School  -  Dinner Monitors  -  1951 ©

 

Return Visit to Edinburgh

 I have been back to Scotland quite a few times, the last visit in September last year.  As always I had to make my way back to Craigmillar, and found the old place undergoing major renovations.  I was able to walk through and picture it as it had been 52 years prior. 

What a pleasure to see it being restored, and made comfortable for new families."

Others from Craigmillar

"I notice that an Archie Ferguson replied to a message from Margaret Calder about Craigmillar Primary School.  I wonder if he might be the same guy I ran into in Toronto about 1959.  He had attended Niddrie Marischal at the same time I did.

Also in Toronto, I once ran into Maureen Hill, who was at Craigmillar School with me.  Thanks for the lovely memories your site evokes, and of the opportunities to share our past and present."

Jim Campbell, St Albert, Alberta, Canada:  March 27, 2009

 

Recollections

13.

Archie Ferguson

Vancouver Island, British Columbia, Canada.

Thank you to Archie Ferguson who replied:

Craigmillar to Canada

"I commend Jim Campbell (12 above) on his memory of our chance meeting in Toronto.  I recall he was driving a small sports car and the year was 1959.

The pictures  of school  he sent were priceless.  I don't know if I was in his class.  There are a couple of images that look like me, but I can't tell.

I hope Jim reads this,  It may warm him up on these cold prairie days.  My wife was born in Edmonton, but I swept her away to Vancouver Island."

Archie Ferguson, Vancouver Island, British Columbia, Canada:  June 19, 2009

 

  Message

14.

David Bain

Rotherham, South Yorkshire, England

Thank you to David Bain who wrote:

Craigmillar Primary School

"I only went to Craigmillar Primary School while we lived with my grandparents in Harewood Drive for a short period in about 1956.

I don't remember anything at all about the school, but I do still remember the toffee cups - toffee lollies in a paper cup - sold at the school gate. The man sold them from a big hand basket; the same kind of basket rolls were sold from, as I recall."

Street Cries

"The mention of rag and bone men brought back memories of the rag man and his call of "toysforwoollenraaaaags!"- all one word, of course!

Another memory is of the roll van of Dalziels of Airdrie - quite how they made a profit selling a vanload of rolls from Airdrie to Gilmerton remains a mystery.

Their cry was "Deee-els Row-els!"

David Bain, Craigmillar, Edinburgh:  September 3, 2009

 

Recollections

Craigmillar and Niddrie

1940s - 1950s

1.

Irene ATKINS
Ashford, Kent, England

Old Women and Old Men

A Safe Place

German Plane

More German Planes

The White Hoose

2.

Cath TUFF
Warwickshire, England

The White House

3.

David THOMSON
Broughton, England

Craigmillar's Decline

Wauchope Estate

4.

Marion DEIGHAN
Edinburgh

My First TV

5.

John CLARK
Canada

Craigmillar Castle Gardens

6.

David BROWN
Craigmillar, Edinburgh

Schools and Housing

7.

Rod FRASER
Australia

Wauchope Estate

8.

Ralph MALTMAN
Canada

Home, School, Work

Neighbours

Jam Pieces

Shopping

Friends

9.

John CLARK
Canada

Growing up in Craigmillar

Family

10.

Jim COWAN

Station Road Craigmillar

Canada

Friends from Craigmillar

11.

Robert T KERR
British Columbia, Canada

Cairntows

Surroundings

Little France

12.

Jim CAMPBELL

Craigmillar to Canada

Craigmillar Schools

Return Visit to Edinburgh

Others from Craigmillar

13.

Archie FERGUSON
Vancouver, British Columbia, Canada

Craigmillar to Canada

14.

David BAIN
Rotherham, South Yorkshire

Craigmillar Primary School

Street Cries

 

Recollections

1.

Irene Atkins

Ashford, Kent, England

Thank you to Bryan Gourlay, Biggar, Lanarkshire, Scotland,  for sending me these memories of Craigmillar in the early 1940s, written by his aunt, Irene Atkins.

Thank you also to Irene, who wrote:

Old Women and Old Men

"The Craigmillar I grew up in, in the early 1940s, is not the place it has become today. It was a world of women and old men, most of the young men having volunteered or been called up to fight for king and country.

The young women went to work to help boost the pittance they received from whichever service their husbands fought with. The old women stayed at home to look after the children of their sons and daughters.

The old men sat on the various benches around the area and regaled us children with tales of their daring do in ' the last one ' in such places as Paschendale, Cambrai and Vimy Ridge, whilst their wives used their meager sugar rations to provide us with such delights as toffee apples and barley twists."

A Safe Place

"Craigmillar was as safe a place as any then. We children played anywhere and everywhere without a care. I do not ever recall a burglary, break-in, child abduction or murder in my day.

The shops neither used shutters or grills when they closed after the day's business, and we only had one policeman called Bobby Munroe.

German plane

"However, exciting things did happen. Such as the German plane that crashed into the derelict grounds of Lady Wauchope's estate.

The other children and I saw the remains of the plane being loaded on to two flat-bed lorries. The very young German airman, who was the only survivor of the crash, was dragged from his hiding place in the woods and frog marched, with hands tied behind his back, covered in dirt and blood, to the police box at the bottom of the road.

I was unable to understand at that time why people jeered and spat on him. I must confess I felt sorry for the poor young man who must have been terrified out of his wits.

I also remember being taken to the gates of Portobello cemetery (Milton Road) to see the corteges of his dead companions pass through, where they might still lie today."

More German Planes

"I remember hanging out of the window with my mother watching a dog-fight in the sky above, with the lights out of course. Also, being wrapped in a huge pink quilt and going to the air raid shelter when the siren sounded, coming back hours later to find the cat had eaten our supper of fish and chips (mother nearly killed it).

I remember going with my mother to New Craighall to see the skeletal remains of the bombed-out houses where a German airman jettisoned his load over the village, having missed his target of Leith docks.

Irene Atkins, Ashford, Kent, England, formerly Wauchope, Craigmillar and Burdiehouse

with acknowledgement to Brian Gourlay, Biggar, Lanarkshire, Scotland, April 9, 2006

 

Recollections

2.

Cath Tuff

Warwickshire, England

Thank you to Cath Tuff, Warwickshire, England, who used to live at Craigmillar, for sending her memories.

Cath wrote:

The White House

   The Whitehouse Public House, Craigmillar ©

"My husband lived in Craigmillar from 1937.  He has great memories of the White Hoose as a boy.  He watched the fights from the window in the Loan (Craigmillar Castel) and  had his first pint of heavy there.

We moved to Niddrie Mill and had a few good laughs and close shaves there.

We now live in England and my husband can't get about, but we still talk about Craigmillar, and tell our grandsons about the White Hoose, and soon our great grandchildren will know all about it."

Cath Tuff, Warwickshire, England:  December 12, 2006

 

Recollections

3.

David Thomson

Broughton, Edinburgh

Thank you to David Thomson for sending his memories of Craigmillar.

David wrote:

Craigmillar's Decline

"I was born in the Craigmillar area and regretfully have seen the decline in the quality of life in the area.

There used to be full employment with 7 Breweries, Coal Pits. Steele's Sanitaryware manufacturing, etc. 

 The cows were brought down from the Castle Farm to be milked and folk won awards for Best Garden etc.  I delivered milk and never had any milk stolen from my barrow!  Folk left the money or token outside their door and it was never stolen. 

I have seen Greendykes being built, demolished, built again and now being demolished again, and I'm not even pensionable age! There's more decent folk in Craigmillar but its the age-old adage of the few bad apples ruin the box."

Wauchope Estate

"I have a book on General Wauchope and used to play in the Wauchope estate - a wonderful place,  The old cemetery is where General Wauchope brought a drummer or bugle boy who had been badly injured, back home from South Africa to have a decent place to die.

When the lad died, he buried him in the family graveyard at Niddrie.  Fascinating the history of a wee place in Edinburgh which has a vast wealth in history of industry and village life.  General Wauchope has a statue which stands at the junction of Market Street/Mound."

David Thomson, Broughton, Edinburgh:  February 15, 2007

 

Recollections

4.

Marion Deighan

Edinburgh

Thank you to Mary Deighan who wrote:

My First TV

"When I first got a TV in the late 1950s the screens were small and the gimmick was to buy an enlarger like a magnifying glass.

A guy came to the door.  He was well dressed and was not from the Edinburgh area.  In my opinion he was a conman, as I can spot a conman miles away.

He said: 'You can rent this magnifier for 2 shillings a week. I'll send one of my agents next week to pick up the payments.

When he saw and heard my husband and found out who my sons were, he got a bit nervous and I never saw him or his so-called agent ever again.

The glass screen was great as it magnified my wee TV to a 32 inch screen without being a blur.  It was one of the best bargains I had in Craigmillar.

I also used knitting needles to get a good picture until I got an aerial mounted on the roof."

Marion Deighan, Edinburgh:  March 29, 2007

Marion is the aunt of Eric Gold who has sent many recollections to the EdinPhoto web site.  Marion used to live in Arthur Street, Dumbiedykes then in Harewood Road, Craigmillar

 

Recollections

5.

John Clark

Canada

Thank you to John Clark who wrote:

Craigmillar Castle Gardens

"My Auntie Lizzie lived in Craigmillar Castle Gardens. People reading this in Hollywood would probably think, 'Wow, I simply must buy a house there.'

Sorry Maam, it wasn't that fancy, but it sure was a lot of fun. We would play football in the park next to the brewery,  It's still there.

We would go to free movies in the nissen huts from the war, and watch great movies for free.  It was freezing cold, but who cared if you were watching a free movie."

John Clark, Canada:  April 1, 2007

 

Recollections

6.

David Brown

Craigmillar, Edinburgh

Thank you to David Brown who wrote:

Schools and Housing

"I go back to Craigmillar 1938, when it was a great place to live.

Peffermill School was being built. We had to go to Prestonfield and the tin school, until it was ready.

People were poor but honest, with large families.  All you hear now is 'deprived area'. 

I've lived in the area for fifty years, ,and own my own home.  I'm very comfortably off because I worked for it."

David Brown, Craigmillar, Edinburgh:  August 12, 2008

 

Recollections

7.

Rod Fraser

Australia

Thank you to Rod Fraser who wrote:

Wauchope Estate

"I used to live in Wauchope Terrace in Craigmillar, back in the 1950s.  I used to play in the old Wauchope Estate grounds then and have many great memories of the time.

 I have a rough idea of where the paths went and what was there.  I was wondering if you have any maps of the layout of the old estate before the housing development?"

Rod Fraser, Australia:  August 7, 2008

Reply

For old maps of the area, I recommend contacting the Map Library of the National Library of Scotland.

Here is their email address.

Peter Stubbs:  August 7, 2008

 

Recollections

8.

Ralph Maltman

Canada

Thank you to Ralph Maltman who wrote:

Home, School, Work

"I grew up in Craigmillar from around 1938 or '39, and finally left to go to Canada in 1957

We lived at 21 Craigmillar Castle Terrace terrace. I attended Peffermill School, then moved on to Niddrie Marischal.  Later, I worked in the pits at Loanhead."

Neighbours

"I recall many happy memories living in Craigmillar and I can't recall any bad times.  Our parents used to go around the stair, either borrowing money for the gas meter or asking for a drop of milk or sugar."

Jam Pieces

"I remember having 'pieces' thrown out the window.  They they were usually jam only, not butter and jam. We never got butter, that was usually only for our dad.  But we thought nothing of that.  That's just the way it was."

Shopping

"We used to shop at the local shops  for our messages. The famous one I recall was Mrs Flett's on the main road in CraigmillarI think her name was Jean and her husband was Charlie."

Friends

"What great memories of those times, meeting all our friends on the corner of the Terrace and the Grove

the Andersons

the Wilsons

-  the Moyes

-  the Gunns

-  the Norrises.

So many memories.  There was nothing wrong with Craigmillar when we were growing up.  What happened?"

Ralph Maltman, Canada:  October 11, 2008

 

Recollections

9.

John Clark

Canada

Thank you to John Clark who wrote:

Growing up in Craigmillar

"I lived in and visited Craigmillar for long periods of time in the late 1940s, to stay with my cousins. Craigmillar was a great place to grow up and to play as a kid.

Oh yes, the young people were tough.  They had to be.  But they were honest and reliable in the majority."

Norris Family

"My cousins were:

-  Jim Norris

George Norris

Billy Norris.

Unfortunately Billy was killed in a terrible accident with a rocket flare gun that he and some friends had acquired and were fooling around with.

George died a few years ago of heart troubles, but I like to believe that Jim is still around and with us."

QUESTION

"Do you know Jim?  If so, please tell him I am asking for him.

Anyway, long live Craigmillar, it gave me many, many happy years in my young days."

Auntie Lizzie

"My Auntie Lizzie had a huge family, from two different husbands.  They were, starting at the eldest, and I hope I get this right:

-  Davey Bullock

-  Jessie Bullock

-  Nettie Bullock

-  Anna Bullock

-  Isabell Bullock

-  Stewart Norris

-  Billy Norris

-  Jim Norris

-  Mary Norris

-  George Norris

-  Marjorie Norris.

She also had one child who died as a baby.

I was in the age group between Billy and Jim. So you can imagine how entertaining life was at my Auntie Lizzie's place, and why I love Craigmillar so much.  Oh, happy days."

Ralph Maltman, Canada:  October 13+15, 2008

 

Recollections

10.

Jim Cowan

New Westminster, British Columbia, Canada

Thank you to Jim Cowan who wrote:

Station Road, Craigmillar

"From 1938 until I joined the Air Force in 1959, I lived in what was then Station Road, but was later changed to Peffer Street, Craigmillar.

We used to have quasi rivalry when at bon-fire time lads from Niddrie would try to set our collections of old furnishings and paper prematurely alight"

Canada

"I joined the Air Force in 1959, then five years later I ventured to the west coast of Canada, and here I still am, at New Westminster, near Vancouver.

Noreen Campbell, wife of Jim Campbell who lived at the same address as I did, 13 Station Road and now live in Edmonton, Canada, sent me this site just a half-hour ago."

Friends from Craigmillar

"I always wonder what became of:

-  my good buddy Charlie Scott.

-  his brothers Ian and David.

Jackie Loch.

David Crow.

Jeanette Mcdonald.

Jill Murray.

-  Big Donald McPherson.

-  Helen Meek.

-  Sheila Anderson.

-  Irene Allard.

a whole lot of others.

Jim Cowan, New Westminster, British Columbia, Canada:  January 24, 2009

Reply to Jim Cowan

Perhaps you recognise yourself or somebody else in Jim's list of names above.  If so, and if you'd like to get in touch with Jim, please email me, then I'll pass your message on to him.

Thank you.    -  Peter Stubbs:  January 24, 2009

  

Recollections

11.

Robert T Kerr

Vancouver, British Columbia, Canada

Thank you to Jim Cowan who wrote:

Cairntows

"My grandad (Bert Kerr) and his family lived at Cairntows (opposite Luci's Ice cream) As kids ,we loved a '99 ice cream (with choc. flake) in front of the television.

We loved visiting my Gran (Helen Wallace) Kerr, for the school holidays. I loved going to sleep at night, hearing the traffic outside (as we were based in the countryside at Loch Lomond) and waking to tea and digestives."

Surroundings

"I remember a beautiful gypsy woman who stayed in trailers (caravan) towards Portobello.

I remember the smell of breweries around, and the bowling green over gran's garden wall.

There was a light blue bubble car in the garage.

I remember my dad, Robert (Robin) Dundas and:

-  his brothers, Dundas and Colin

-  his sisters, Heather (very dark hair), Hazel (vey blonde hair)

-  Colin's wife, Christine ,and their children, Raymond and Grant

young Dundas and Katriona."

Little France

"I remember Little France and the Castle Farm and bailing in the fall (autumn). I remember my grandad watching steeplechasing on the television.

Those were the days!"

Robert T Kerr, Vancouver, British Columbia, Canada

 

Recollections

12.

Jim Campbell

St Albert, Alberta, Canada

Thank you to Jim Campbell who sent me these three photos of his schools at Craigmillar:

Jim wrote:

Craigmillar to Canada

"Jim Cowan (10 above) now living in Vancouver and I both grew up in Craigmillar, at 13 Station Road.

I left Edinburgh in 1956, living first in Toronto, and later in Edmonton, Alberta.  Presently my wife and I live in St. Albert, a smaller city that is almost attached to Edmonton. 

My sister, Helen Fowler, who now lives in Peterborough, Ontario, also sent a message about Cairntows  Craigmillar to the Edinphoto web site a while ago.

Craigmillar Schools

"I dug around and found these school pictures that you might like to add to the site.

Craigmillar Primary School

1950

Craigmillar Primary Schol Class  -  1949 ©

Craigmillar Primary School

1950

   Craigmillar Primary School Class ©

Niddrie Marischal School

1952 or 1953

   Niddrie Marischal School  -  Dinner Monitors  -  1951 ©

 

Return Visit to Edinburgh

 I have been back to Scotland quite a few times, the last visit in September last year.  As always I had to make my way back to Craigmillar, and found the old place undergoing major renovations.  I was able to walk through and picture it as it had been 52 years prior. 

What a pleasure to see it being restored, and made comfortable for new families."

Others from Craigmillar

"I notice that an Archie Ferguson replied to a message from Margaret Calder about Craigmillar Primary School.  I wonder if he might be the same guy I ran into in Toronto about 1959.  He had attended Niddrie Marischal at the same time I did.

Also in Toronto, I once ran into Maureen Hill, who was at Craigmillar School with me.  Thanks for the lovely memories your site evokes, and of the opportunities to share our past and present."

Jim Campbell, St Albert, Alberta, Canada:  March 27, 2009

 

Recollections

13.

Archie Ferguson

Vancouver Island, British Columbia, Canada.

Thank you to Archie Ferguson who replied:

Craigmillar to Canada

"I commend Jim Campbell (12 above) on his memory of our chance meeting in Toronto.  I recall he was driving a small sports car and the year was 1959.

The pictures  of school  he sent were priceless.  I don't know if I was in his class.  There are a couple of images that look like me, but I can't tell.

I hope Jim reads this,  It may warm him up on these cold prairie days.  My wife was born in Edmonton, but I swept her away to Vancouver Island."

Archie Ferguson, Vancouver Island, British Columbia, Canada:  June 19, 2009

 

  Message

15.

Connie Campbell

Durham, England

Thank you to Connie Campbell who wrote:

Harewood Crescent

"I was born in 1940 and lived at 13 Harewood Crescent, Niddrie Mains. Edinburgh.

I had five sisters.  The eldest passed away in March 2007.  The others are:

-  Sylvia

-  June

-  Margaret

-  Moira.

We all went to Craigmillar primary school then Niddrie Marischal  secondary school.

My dad was Harry Young, an active member of the community"

Connie Campbell, Durham, England:  December 3, 2009

 

Edinburgh and Leith map, 1940 -  Craigmillar and Niddrie section, with key to housing areas ©

Notes and Maps showing areas
of Craigmillar and Niddrie

 

 

Recollections

Craigmillar 1940s + 1950s       Craigmillar 1960s + 1970s        Craigmillar 1970s + 1980s

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