A.
Prefab
Housing
Late-1940s /
Early-1950s
Background |
Recollections
Several other pages in the 'Recollections'
section of the EdinPhoto web site
include memories and photos of
prefab housing in Edinburgh.
See:
Gilmerton - c.1950
©
Greendykes - 1957
©
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Greendykes - 1961
©
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Britain
In order to meet the
housing shortage as World War II was coming to an end, Wilson
Churchill announced a Temporary Housing Programme in 1944.
The program planned to
build 500,000 prefab bungalows in Britain over the next four
years. They were expected to last for fifteen years.
In fact just over 150,000 were built, including about 4,000 in
Edinburgh. |
Edinburgh
Thank you to Neil
Lawrence, Edinburgh for giving me the details of the Edinburgh
prefabs below. I don't know how many, if any, have survived.
There were four types of prefab in Edinburgh:
- Aluminium
1792
-
Arcon
757
-
Seco
815
-
Tarran
636
Area |
Number Built |
Brunstane |
16 |
Coillesdene |
69 |
Craigmillar 1 |
41 |
Craigmillar 2 |
48 |
Craigmillar 3 (Greendykes) |
267 |
Crewe Road North |
38 |
Drylaw Mains North (Pennywell) |
200 |
Ferniehill |
233 |
Gilmerton (Hyvots) |
226 |
Longstone |
135 |
Moredun |
565 |
Muirhouse |
193 |
Northfield |
229 |
Oxgangs |
123 |
Redhall |
218 |
Saughton Mains |
158 |
Sighthill (Calders) |
537 |
Southfield (Bingham) |
100 |
Southhouse |
240 |
West Pilton |
364 |
After the initial 4000 above were built, Edinburgh purchased an
additional 166 Permanent Aluminium houses, 145 for Craigour and 21
for Muirhouse.
Edinburgh
Today
A
few of the 1940s prefab bungalows in Edinburgh have survived to
today (January 2008). They still appear to be in good
condition. Most have been modernised, but a few still retain
many of their original features.
In January 2008, I visited many of the
areas in the table above. I found and photographed several
prefab bungalows in the Moredun (Craigour) area:
© |
Acknowledgements
(1) Thank you to Neil Lawrence,
Fountainbridge, Edinburgh for providing the details above.
Neil tells me:
-
The numbers of the individual types of prefabs were taken
from Edinburgh Council Minutes.
- The numbers built by each scheme
have been worked out from various sources: City drainage records,
old OS maps and more Edinburgh Council Minutes. There seems to be
very little in the way of proper documented information on Prefabs
in general. They were built under special war-time powers and
didn’t require formal planning or building warrant permissions.
(2) Thank
you to Bob Henderson, Burdiehouse Edinburgh for telling me that
there were still some prefab bungalows to be found around Moredun.
I found some at:
- Craigour Avenue
- Craigour Crescent
- Craigour Drive
- Craigour Grove
- Moredun Park
- Moredun Park Court
There may well be others that I have still
to find.
Peter Stubbs: Edinburgh |
B.
Prefab
Housing
Late-1940s /
Early-1950s
Exhibition |
Treasured Places
The
exhibition, Treasured Places, was displayed at the City Art
Centre from 25 October 2008 to 17 January 2009 to commemorate the
centenary of RCAHMS (The Royal Commission on the Ancient and
Historical Monuments of Scotland).
The
exhibition featured a wide variety of properties in Scotland,
including an Edinburgh prefab, No 55 - possibly
55 Craigour Avenue.
The
exhibition explained that this was one of 32,000 prefabs erected
in Scotland in the late 1940s. It had been supplied by AIROH
(Architectural Industries Research Organisation on housing).
Prefabs were detached and had large gardens. They were
usually popular with their owners.
Prefabs were constructed of aluminium because, following the end
of World War II. Prefabs were partly assembled
(prefabricated) in factories before being delivered to the site.
In
Scotland, 3,205 prefabs survived to 1971. Here is one of
several in the Craigour and Moredun, Edinburgh that was
still occupied and appeared to be in good condition in 2008:
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C.
Prefab
Housing
Late-1940s /
Early-1950s
Recollections
|
0. |
Alan Bass
Craigour, Edinburgh |
- Craigour
Avenue |
1. |
Bob Henderson
Burdiehouse, Edinburgh
with reply from
Neil
Lawrence
Fountainbridge, Edinburgh |
- Burdiehouse
- Greendykes |
2. |
Bryan Gourlay
Biggar, Lanarkshire,
Scotland
|
- Burdiehouse
- Delivery
- North Berwick
and Biggar |
3. |
Douglas Beath
Tasmania, Australia
with reply from
Neil
Lawrence
Fountainbridge, Edinburgh |
- Good Old Prefabs
- Crewe Road and East Pilton |
4. |
Bob Henderson
Burdiehouse, Edinburgh |
- Swedish Design |
5. |
Liz Black
California, USA |
- Greendykes
- Holyrood |
6. |
Betty Campbell
Northfield, Edinburgh |
-
Craigour Drive
-
Countryside |
7. |
Liz Taylor (née
LAMB)
Edinburgh |
-
Craigour Road
- Golf Balls |
8. |
Ron Ross
Brampton, Ontario, Canada |
-
Hyvot Terrace, Gilmerton |
9. |
Carl Gorman
Port Elizabeth, South Africa |
- Golf Course |
10. |
Lilian Young
USA |
- Calder Road |
11. |
Robert Black
Livingston, West Lothian, Scotland |
- Calder
Drive |
11.
Reply 1 |
Tom Pillans
Sydney, New South Wales, Australia |
- Calder
Drive |
11.
Reply 2 |
G A Ford |
- Calder
Drive |
12. |
Monica Pudel
Ahrensburg, Hamburg, Germany |
-
Northfield Prefabs |
13. |
Moira Clarke
Stokesley, North Yorkshire |
- Calder Drive
- Fields |
14. |
Jim Browning
Brighton, Sussex, England |
-
Moredun Park Rise |
15. |
Terry Dolan
Edinburgh |
- Found under the floor boards |
16. |
Rab Young
Drumbrae, Edinburgh |
-
Calder Walk |
17 |
Pamela Thompson
(née Jones)
Buderim, Queensland, Australia |
- Milton Drive |
18 |
Patricia Mcdonald
(née Thomson) |
- Milton Grove,
Portobello |
19 |
Joann Arthur |
- Mountcastle
Drive |
20 |
Patricia Mcdonald
(née Thomson) |
- Milton Grove,
Portobello
- Tight Squeeze
- Games
- Good Old Days |
21 |
Pamela
Thompson
(née
Jones)
|
- Milton Grove,
Portobello
- Tight Squeeze
|
22 |
Chris Smith
Turnhouse, Edinburgh |
- Calder Walk |
23 |
Annette Kelly (née Bruce) |
- Northfield
Drive |
24 |
George Brodie
Bonnyrigg, Midlothian, Scotland |
- Northfield
Grove |
25 |
Robert Laird
Longstone, Edinburgh |
- Prefabs at Redhall
- Slateford & Longstone
Public Hall
- Prefabs and Bus Stop
|
26 |
Andrew Morton |
- Craigour Avenue
|
27 |
Andrew Morton |
- Craigour Avenue
- Craigour Loan
|
28 |
Lilian Young
Hamilton Square, New Jersey, USA |
- Calder Road
|
29 |
Roddy Hunter |
- Calder Crescent
- My Home
- My School
|
30 |
Roddy Hunter |
- Calder Crescent
- My Prefab Home
- Move to Stenhouse
- Move to Rochdale
- Return Visits to
Edinburgh
|
31 |
Sonia Zhuravlyova |
- Swedish Prefabs
|
32 |
Archie Young
Moredun, Edinburgh |
- Milton Drive
and
Coillesdene Avenue
- The Prefab Houses
- Photos
- Buses
- Leaving the Prefabs
|
33 |
Stuart Lyon
Blackford, Edinburgh
|
- Swedish Houses
- West Pilton Place
|
34 |
Ian Wood
Norway
|
- Swedish Prefabs
|
35 |
Ian MacKay |
- 60 Northfield Drive
- Our Prefab
- Our Family
- Our Neighbours
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Recollections
0.
Alan Bass
Craigour, Edinburgh |
Thank you to Alan Bass for contacting me when he recognised a
picture of the prefab that he used to live in at Craigour.
Please click on the thumbnail image below to
read Alan's
comments:
Craigour
Avenue
©
Acknowledgement: Alan Bass,
Craigour, Edinburgh: August 2+6, 2009 |
Recollections
1.
Bob Henderson
Burdiehouse, Edinburgh
|
Referring to the comments above, Bob Henderson, Burdiehouse
sent me the photo below. Please click on the photo to
enlarge it.
Bob wrote:
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Burdiehouse
©
"Here's another type of
prefab. This photo shows the houses in their old and
metamorphosed state. These are BISF houses and were made in
huge numbers all over the UK.
I have lived in one of
these in Burdiehouse for the last 35 years. The conversion
has turned them into very snug and fuel efficient homes."
Neil Lawrence wrote:
BISF Houses
"I was reading your page on the prefabs
with interest. The BISF 2-storey
houses that Bob Henderson refers to were
in fact permanent houses.
BISF stands for British Iron & Steel Federation.
We
have a good number of these
houses at both Southhouse / Burdiehouse and at Moredun.
All of these apart from the one in your
photograph have been overclad and re-roofed to give them an
additional lifespan."
Fabrication
"These
houses were not
pre-fabricated that much. They
were erected pretty much as a steel frame with building element
fitted much in the same way you would build a house on site, not
like the Aluminium prefabs that were built in the Blackburn
aircraft factory and delivered to the sight in two parts."
Neil Lawrence, Fountainbridge,
Edinburgh: July 26, 2008
|
Bob Henderson replied:
BISF Houses
"The BISF houses were in most of their component
parts prefabricated.
Because the metal frames were made to a
pretty exact spec, all of the timbers for the internal walls,
ceilings etc. were able to be precut in the factory.
The top half of the building was sheathed in steel sheet and the
bottom half in wire mesh which was then rendered and harled in the
scotch manner.
All of the windows and window frames were made by Crittal Hope,
also in the factory, and were in fact of the same construction as
for the bungalows which we call prefabs.
There was no plaster work inside these houses, all of the walls
and ceilings being lined with a low density fibre board. This
board was later found to be a fire hazard. I know of at
least two houses which were gutted by fire here in the Burdiehouse
area."
Renovation
"These houses have been renovated twice
that I know of.
The first time was to rewire, remove the fibre board and replace
it with plaster board, and to remove the
asbestos roofing and replace it with a metal roof.
The second renovation involved the replacement of windows with new
double glazed units and doors. Then
a skin of two- inch thick polystyrene, a
breather barrier, a wire mesh cage and in my case the whole
rendered and harled with a red and white chipping."
Survival
"However, most of the houses here had
the bottom half clad in a single skin of facing brick. These
houses were not built to last any longer than any other prefab.
It says a lot that prefabs of all types
are still standing in good order when the supposedly traditionally
built houses of the 1960s
to 1980s have been demolished
and continue to be demolished here in
Edinburgh."
Bob Henderson, Burdiehouse,
Edinburgh: July 26, 2008
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Greendykes
"I also lived for a short
time in one of the other type, an asbestos one in Greendykes.
It was a great wee hoose.
Imagine going from a
single-end with no hot water and an outside shared lav. to your
own wee bungalow with hot and cold running water and a bath with,
wonder of wonders, a gas- operated fridge built in to the fitted
kitchen!"
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Bob Henderson, Burdiehouse, Edinburgh:
January 4, 2007 |
Recollections
2.
Bryan Gourlay
Biggar, Lanarkshire,
Scotland |
After reading the comments above, Brian Gourlay wrote: |
Burdiehouse
"It’s been interesting
reading Bob Henderson’s recollections
and experiences of living in
pre-fabs. I never knew they made the two level version in
Bob’s photo.
My grandmother moved to
one in Burdiehouse Loan in 1947 and lived there for years, but I
never realised it was a pre-fab. Her daughter has lived in
Burdiehouse Avenue for 50 years, now in
one of the upgraded ones in Bob’s photo."
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Delivery
"In the late 1940s, I can
remember seeing pre-fab houses being
delivered, going down Dalkeith Road on the back of low-loader
lorries, as I walked to school. They
were like small bungalows sliced in half with sinks, bathrooms and
lots of other things already fitted.
|
North Berwick
and Biggar
"Pre-fab houses
were also to be found in North Berwick, up near the Law, where
they were demolished around 1970.
There is a nice prefab
development still alive and kicking close to the high school and
opposite the golf course in Biggar.
|
Bryan Gourlay, Biggar,
Lanarkshire, Scotland: January 23, 2008 |
Recollections
3.
Douglas Beath
Tasmania, Australia |
Douglas Beath added: |
Good Old
Prefabs!
"Good old prefabs!
History should accord them a round of applause. The postwar
radio comedy 'Stand Easy!'
with Cheerful Charlie Chester's gang included a weekly current
affairs skit as a chant accompanied by tomtoms.
One was
'Down
in the jungle,
Lliving in a tent:
Better than a prefab.
No rent !'
|
Crewe
Road and East Pilton
"I
remember the bungalows between Crewe Road North and Crewe Road
West.
Also, just south of there
around Crewe Road Gardens and overlooking the partly-filled
railway cutting to East Pilton, there
were several Swedish-supplied
two-storey prefabs, presumably the type Bryan Gourlay was unaware
of because they were not immediately recognizable as prefabs."
Neil Lawrence replied:
"Douglas
Beath mentioned the Swedish timber
houses at Pilton. There were
2 lots of 50 houses, gifted by the
Swedish Government after the war.
50 were built at West
Pilton Place and a further 50 at Sighthill Drive, Rise &
Crescent. All 100 houses are
still standing and are lasting well for their age."
Neil
Lawrence, Fountainbridge, Edinburgh: July 26, 2008 |
|
Douglas Beath, Tasmania,
Australia: January 25, 2007 |
Recollections
4.
Bob Henderson
Burdiehouse, Edinburgh |
Bob Henderson added: |
Swedish Design
"Douglas
Beath
mentioned the Swedish version
of the prefab houses. These were different again,
being built entirely from wood. They
were years ahead of their time,
as far as UK regulations were concerned.
I believe they only got
past these regs. because of the war, and
very few other timber houses were built for many years after them.
Nowadays,
of course, we have taken account of the
millions of timber houses in the States,
Canada, Scandinavia etc.
and come to recognise that they do not pose any more risk
in case of fire than other types of construction.
|
Bob Henderson, Burdiehouse,
Edinburgh: July 13, 2008 |
Recollections
5.
Liz Black
California, USA |
Thank you to Liz Black for adding her comments to the EdinPhoto
guestbook.
Liz wrote: |
Greendykes
"I was born in Edinburgh.
I lived on South Clark Street, then
Greendykes Avenue in the prefabs.
Holyrood
My grandparents lived on
Holyrood Road in a tenement held up with wood supports, across
from a teachers' college.
|
Bob Henderson, Burdiehouse,
Edinburgh: July 8, 2008 |
Recollections
6.
Betty
Campbell
Northfield, Edinburgh |
Craigour Drive
Here is a view looking to the
NW down Craigour Drive, with just one prefab remaining in this photo.
It's the low bungalow, No 70, Craigour Drive.
©
When these houses were erected
in the mid-1940s, they had an expected lifetime of about fifteen years,
but a few were still standing, and looking good, in the
Craigour district of Edinburgh, close to the new
Edinburgh Royal Infirmary when I photographed them in January 2008.
Peter Stubbs:
July 23, 2008 |
Betty Campbell lived with her family for nearly five
years at
Duddingston Camp in the 1940s
©
before moving to a prefab at Craigour.
|
Betty wrote:
Countryside
"We lived in 76 Craigour
Drive. I loved it there as it was still countryside at that time.
There was a farm behind us where the cows came right up to the fence at
the back of our home.
The farmer
had a pony named 'Trigger' who all us kids loved. When he saw us
around, he would come to us for treats etc."
Betty Campbell, Northfield, Edinburgh: July 23, 2008 |
Recollections
7.
Liz Taylor (née
Lamb)
Edinburgh |
Thank you
to Liz Taylor (née Lamb) who wrote: |
Craigour Road
"I used to live in a prefab in Craigour Road.
Ours was at the end, overlooking Liberton Golf Course (the fourth
tee?). As the
ground dipped down towards the burn there, our prefab was built up on
bricks to make it level with the others in the row! We had about 15 steps
up to both doors!"
Golf Balls
"We also used to get
loads of golf balls in our garden. According to
my sisters, I used to hunt them, collect them in an old paint tin and give
them to the Greenkeeper (Mr Gemmell) and he used
to give me half a crown for a full tin!"
Liz Taylor (née Lamb), Edinburgh:
July
31, 2008 |
Recollections
8.
Ron Ross
Edinburgh |
Thank you
to Ron Ross for sending this photograph of the prefab house at Hyvot
Terrace where he lived with his family from 1949 until 1958. |
Ron wrote
"I lived in a prefab at 4 Hyvot Terrace from
1949 until 1958. This photo of the house was taken in 1961, about a
year before the
prefabs were all demolished."
4 Hyvot Terrace
©
Ron Ross, Brompton, Ontario, Canada:
February 3, 2009 |
Please click on the thumbnail
image above to enlarge the photo and read more about it. |
Recollections
9.
Carl Gorman
Port Elizabeth
South Africa |
Thank you
to Carl Gormon who read Liz Taylor's comments about the golf course
(7 above) and replied. |
Carl wrote
"The Late Mr Gemmell
referred to in section 7 above is my late Grandfather. My Mom,
Isobel (Gemmell) grew up on the golf course.
Carl Gormon, Port Elizabeth, South
Africa: May 14, 2009 |
Please click on the thumbnail
image above to enlarge the photo and read more about it. |
Recollections
10.
Lilian Young
Hamilton Square, New Jersey, USA |
Thank you
to Lilian Young who wrote: |
Calder Road
"I was born in Edinburgh, and lived in a flat
in Jamaica Street, then moved to Viewforth Square, Saughton Loan, Calder
Road and Whitson Walk before coming to the US.
My Mom, brother and I were amongst the first
people to live in prefabs on Calder Road. We lived at
No 547. Mom loved the many built-in closets, cabinets and
drawers and swore it must have been designed by a female since males would
never have thought of this feature."
Demolition
"It's a shame that
the prefabs were pulled down. I went to
Calder Road when I came home in 2006, but couldn't locate where this house
had stood.
Of course, I was saddened to see the number of
beautiful old, historical buildings which had been replaced by the awful
steel and glass monstrosities. We see enough of this type of
building here, and I just wish the historical
buildings I recalled from my youth had still been
standing."
Lilian Young,
Hamilton Square, New Jersey, USA: August 13, 2009 |
Old Buildings
Despite
their planned lifetime of fifteen years, some of Edinburgh's prefabs in
the Moredun district are still occupied and looking good, sixty years
after they were built.
Yes, some
historic buildings have been lost in Edinburgh, particularly around the
1960s, but I believe that people are now more aware of the value of such
buildings.
Peter Stubbs: August 20, 2009 |
Recollections
11.
Robert Black
Livingston, West
Lothian, Scotland |
Thank you
to Robert Black for leaving a message in the EdinPhoto guest book.
Robert wrote: |
Calder Drive
"I was brought up in the prefab
at 67 Calder Drive.
I attended Wester Hailes and then
Murrayburn schools.
I left Calder Drive in 1966 when I was 18 and
moved with my parents (Mary & Tommy) to Longstone Street where new houses
had replaced the prefabs which had been there.
I look back on my time in the prefabs with
great affection. Does anyone remember me?"
Robert Black: Livingston, West Lothian, Scotland:
Message posted in EdinPhoto guest book: August 24, 2009 |
Contacting Robert Black
Unfortunately, I don't have an email address for Robert*, so I'm not able
to pass on messages to him. However, if you
email me with any messages for him, I'll add your messages to the
recollections pages on the EdinPhoto web site and hope that he reads them
there.
UPDATE
* I now have an email address for Robert.
So I can pass it on to others. (I've just passed it on to Tom
Pillans who sent the reply below.
Peter Stubbs: August 24, 2009 |
Recollections
11.
Reply
1.
Tom Pillans
Sydney, New South
Wales, Australia |
Tom Pillans replied to Robert Black's comments in
Recollections 11 above.
Tom wrote: |
Calder Drive
"I remember Robert
Black well. He's my cousin, ie, the son of my dad's sister, and I
haven't seen him or heard from him in more than 50 years.
I now live in Sydney, Australia, with my wife
and three grown-up daughters."
Tom Pillans, Sydney, New South Wales, Australia: April 26, 2014 |
Recollections
11.
Reply
2.
G A Ford
|
Thank you
to G A Ford for replying to Robert Black's
recollections above: |
Calder Drive
"I lived across the road from Robert.
We were all so discreet in those distant days of yore.
I remember with affection the opening of the
chip shop. Was that not the most beautiful experience of
being young, growing up in that area? Perhaps not, for
Ginger who fell off the swing by the canal.
I remember Peter diving from
the canal bridge (time after time) in his woollen trunks!"
G A Ford: 17 March 2018 |
Recollections
12.
Monica Purdel
(née
Mahon)
Ahrensburg, Hamburg, Germany |
Thank you to Monica Pudel (née Mahon) who wrote:
Northfield Prefabs
"I have not seen anything
yet on the EdinPhoto web site about the prefab houses at Northfield.
I lived there from 1947 until about 1963. I'd love to hear from
anybody else who lived there."
**
Monica Pudel (née Mahon), Ahrensburg, Hamburg, Germany:
January 15, 2009 |
**
Reply to
Monica
If you'd like to send a reply to Monica,
please email me, then I'll pass your message on to her.
Thank you.
Peter Stubbs: March 20, 2010 |
Recollections
13.
Moira Clarke
Stokesley, North
Yorkshire, England |
Thank you
to Moira Clark who replied to Robert Black's message in
Recollections 11 above. |
Moira wrote:
Calder Drive
"I lived at 110 Calder Drive until 1963. We
lived next to a man called Willie Ralph who worked on the railways and had
one arm! As children, my brother and I
would watch him roll his cigarettes one-handedly in awe and amazement."
|
Moira asked Robert
Fields
"Do
you remember the lovely fields at the back of the prefabs, and the burn?
We we were not allowed to play there ...
but did anyway !!"
|
Moira Clarke, Stokesley, North Yorkshire, England: September 16,
2010 |
Contacting Robert Black
If you'd
like to contact Robert,
please email me, then I'll pass on your message to him.
Thank you.
Peter Stubbs: August 24, 2009 |
Recollections
14.
Jim Browning
Brighton, Sussex,
England
|
Thank you to Jim Browning who
wrote:
Moredun Park Rise
"As a wee lad, I
lived in a prefab at Moredun
Park Rise from 1957 until 1961. I
remember the houses being warm.
I
to go to the burn at the bottom of road and dam it,
before being chased off. I visited
recently and tried to trace the walk down the burn but lost it in the
hospital site.
I have fond
memories of the school at Moredun Vale."
Jim Browning, Brighton, Sussex, England:
December 13, 2010 |
Recollections
15.
Terry Dolan
Edinburgh |
Thank you to Terry Dolan who
wrote:
Hyvot's Avenue
"We lived in
a prefab at 27 Hyvots
Avenue from 1948 to 1954.
We
used to play in the quarry at the back of Hyvots Terrace.
Our
Auntie May and Uncle
Paddy and their family lived further down the road.
Our next
door neighbours were the Reids and the Inksters."
Terry Dolan, Edinburgh: November 13, 2011 |
Recollections
16.
Rab Young
Drumbrae, Edinburgh
|
Thank you to Rab Young who wrote:
Calder Walk
"It was good to read the recollections
above of the Calder Prefabs.
Our family lived at 26 Calder Walk from the
early-1950s until the prefab was demolished
around 1965."
The Weather
"I have fantastic
memories of the back fields, the burn and the canal. It’s a pity I’ve no
pictures of the estate.
Halcyon days indeed, always sunny
- but I do remember the inch thick coating of ice on the
inside of my bedroom window some winters (especially 1963…brrr..) and
being lulled to sleep at night by the sound of rain pattering on the
roof."
Rab Young, Drumbrae, Edinburgh:
April 27, 2012 |
Recollections
17.
Pamela
Thompson (née
Jones)
Buderim, Queensland,
Australia |
Thank you to Pamela Thompson for posting a message
in the EdinPhoto Guestbook.
Pamela wrote:
|
Milton Drive
"I lived in Milton Drive in a prefab from
about 1947. I remember everything was built-in
and cupboards and drawers were metal.
Boy, did they squeak!
In the early fifties we moved to Brunstane
Road where we lived until we came to Australia in 1961"
Pamela Thompson (née Jones), Buderim, Queensland, Australia:
Message posted in EdinPhoto Guestbook: March 10, 2011 |
Recollections
18.
Patricia
Mcdonald (née
Thomson)
|
Thank you to Patricia Mcdonald (née Thomson) for
posting a reply to the message 77 above that Pamela Thompson posted in the
EdinPhoto Guestbook.
Pamela wrote:
|
Milton Grove
Portobello
"I was born in
a prefab at No.14
Milton Grove, Portobello
in 1948 and lived there until 1958 when my Mum was pregnant with
her 10th baby, so we had to move to a bigger
house.
She had a choice of two houses,
one at Niddrie, the other at Bingham.
She chose the latter as
it was slightly better
I
have many fond memories from the two areas where I
stayed"
Patricia Mcdonald (née Thomson): Reply posted in EdinPhoto Guestbook
on Mar 13, 2013 in response to Message 17 above posted by Pamela Thompson
Buderim, Queensland, Australia on Mar 10, 2013. |
Patricia:
Thanks for your reply.
I'm amazed that such a
large family was able to live in the prefab for so long!
Peter Stubbs, Edinburgh: March 13, 2013 |
Recollections
19.
Joann Arthur
Edinburgh |
Thank you to Joann Arthur who wrote:
|
Mountcastle Drive
Portobello
"My Auntie Peggy used to live in the prefabs
at Mountcastle Drive and hers was right next to the Figgate Park.
The local kids called it the Figgy Park. This
was a dead end before they built the road right over to Mountcastle Drive
South.
I have fond memories of summer holidays at her
prefab in the late-1950s and earl-1960s, where
all the local kids played out in the street at rounder’s and also fishing
for tiddlers with old stockings and wire on the end of a bamboo stick,
down at the Figgate Burn.
We also walked up to the store van (St.
Cuthbert’s) which used to park daily further up Mountcastle Drive to buy a
sweetie. A whole crowd of us would also walk down to Portobello either to
the pool or the beach.
On a Saturday, we'd walk
to Brighton Park, where
there was some kind of kids' show.
It all changed when they knocked down the prefabs.
Many of the residents moved up to Northfield, but it never seemed
the same."
Joann Arthur, Edinburgh: August 24, 2012 |
Recollections
20.
Patricia
Mcdonald (née
Thomson)
|
Patricia posted another message in the EdinPhoto
guestbook, following up the comments in 'Recollections' 18 above.
Patricia wrote:
|
Milton Grove
Portobello
Tight Squeeze
"Yes Peter: it was a tight squeeze but
,hey, they were good
days! I suppose it could have been worse.
We could have stayed in a 'single-end'.
I
have so many good memories
of living in Milton Grove.
Games
"Chap
Door Run was a
great game then. We
tied two door handles of opposite houses together,
knocking on the doors and hiding in the
bushes, watching the people trying to open their
doors, was great fun.
omg, if my boys had done that when they
were young, they would have been grounded for
life.
Rounders
was another great game
All
the girls loved to play
Skipping Ropes. You
would start with two or three girls and before
long you would have a load of girls joining in.
Even some mothers would come out and join
in."
Good Old Days
"Oh, they were the
good old days. Nowadays, you never see
children out playing, let alone the mums.
I've made contact with a couple of people from my childhood
,through the EdinPhoto site. Thank
you."
Tricia Mcdonald (née Thomson): Reply posted in EdinPhoto Guestbook
on March 15, 2013
in response to the message posted by Pamela Thompson née Jones on March
10, 2013 |
Recollections
21.
Pamela
Thompson (née
Jones)
|
Thank you to
Pamela Thompson (née Jones) for posting another reply in the in the
EdinPhoto guestbook on 2 April 2013 in response to the original message
about prefab housing that she posted in the guestbook on 10 March 2013.
Pamela wrote: |
Milton Grove
Tight Squeeze
"It's
nice to see the response
from Patricia who lived in Milton Grove. I
can't imagine how ten children fitted in a tiny
prefab.
There were only two bedrooms,
as I recall. I shared with my two much younger
sisters and that was pretty cramped. I am
enjoying this website immensely"
Pamela Thompson (née Jones): Reply posted in
EdinPhoto guestbook, 2 April 2013, 2013 in response to the original
message about prefab housing posted by Pamela in
the guestbook on 10 March 2013. |
Recollections
22.
Chris Smith
Turnhouse, Edinburgh
|
Chris Smith
wrote: |
Tight Squeeze
"It's
nice to see the response
from Patricia who lived in Milton Grove. I
can't imagine how ten children fitted in a tiny
prefab.
There were only two bedrooms,
as I recall. I shared with my two much younger
sisters and that was pretty cramped. I am
enjoying this website immensely."
Chris Smith, Turnhouse, Edinburgh: March 17, 2013 |
To read a reply to the question that Chris asked,
please click on this thumbnail image of a
map
showing the lay-out of the roads at Calder in 1955:
©
Peter Stubbs, Edinburgh: April 7,
2013 |
Recollections
23.
Annette Kelly (née
Bruce) |
Annette Kelly
wrote: |
Northfield Drive
"I was born in 1950 and have many happy
memories of the prefabs.
I lived at 39 Northfield
Drive until I was 8 years old. What a great childhood! Yes, we
played in the burn as well, falling in more than once.
We had to move as I had an
older brother and sister."
Annette Kelly (née Bruce) |
Recollections
24.
George Brodie
Bonnyrigg, Midlothian,
Scotland |
Thank you to
George Brodie who wrote: |
Northfield Grove
"We stayed in a prefab
at No 3 Northfield Grove until the greed of the gold,
under the name of re-development totally destroyed this lovely area
My two daughters,
Linda and Lesley, couldn't wait to get home from
school and vanish into the Figgate Park for
hours with our wee dog.
I remember:
- the shops, Grant's.
Taylor's
and Forsyth's
-
the boxer,
Kenny Buchanan and many more
Happy days!
The development where we
once lived is now a total eyesore George Brodie (bus driver)"
George Brodie, Bonyrigg, Midlothian, Scotland (bus driver): January
1, 2013 |
Recollections
25.
Robert Laird
Longstone, Edinburgh |
Thank you to
Robert Laird who wrote: |
Redhall
"I was browsing the EdinPhoto site just
now, and noticed an entry numbering the Pre-fabs built in Longstone after
the war.
Robert is presumably referring to the
table above. It mentions 135 prefab
houses built at Longstone
- Peter
Stubbs: August 25, 2014
|
The bulk of them were actually Redhall
addresses, but there were a few built on Longstone Street."
Slateford & Longstone Public
Hall
"In the
photo below, there are two children,me
and a little girl. The photo
was taken in front of the Slateford & Longstone Public Hall, at a
relatives Engagement Party which was held there
circa 1954.
The Hall is now in possession of the
Freemasons, something that puzzled my dad, because according to him the
Hall was donated to the people of Slateford & Longstone."
©
Robert Laird, Longstone, Edinburgh
Prefabs ad Bus Stop
"Behind me is the
last bus stop on Longstone Road, before it
becomes Inglis Green Road. Over the road
are some of the prefabs on Redhall Crescent. They
were demolished and 'Army Houses'
replaced them for a short time.
I also noticed
that the bus stop sign said 'Motor
Buses Stop Here', which intrigued me."
That bus stop was presumably form the
era when motor buses were being introduced in many areas of Edinburgh to
replace the trams.
- Peter Stubbs: August
25, 2014
|
Robert Laird, Longstone, Edinburgh: August 23, 2014 |
Recollections
26.
Andrew Morton |
Thank you to
Andrew Morton who wrote: |
5 Craigour Avenue
"I thought you might
be interested in these photos.
My family were the first occupants of 5 Craigour Avenue.
©
©
©
©
©
©
©
©
My parents were Jack and Joan Morton.
Our neighbour across the Street, was
Ronnie Allan. I believe that he is still
living there."
Andrew Morton: September 9, 2014
|
Thank you Andrew.
Hi
Andrew. I certainly am interested in
those photos. Thank you. Can you tell me anything about
what life was like, living in the prefab?
This seems
to be the one district of Edinburgh that has retained quite a lot of the
old prefabs. They are now about 65 years old, and most appear to be
in very good condition.
When the
prefabs were put up, they had an expected life of 15 years!
Peter Stubbs, Edinburgh: September 11, 2014 |
Update
Thank you
to Andrew Morton for responding to my first paragraph above and
sending more recollections of living at Craigour. See Andrew's 'Recollections
27' below.
Peter Stubbs, Edinburgh: September 13, 2014 |
Recollections
27.
Andrew Morton
Musselburgh,
East Lothian, Scotland |
Thank you to
Andrew Morton added: |
5 Craigour Avenue
Born in 1951
"I
was born on Friday, 28 September, 1951 in the back bedroom of 5 Craigour
Avenue, Edinburgh. It was around the middle of the day for my mother
recalls hearing the children coming up the road from school for their
lunch at the time that I was born.
My parents were Jack and Joan
Morton who, with my elder brother John, had moved into the house the year
before.
The world I came
into was a post-war one.
My First Memory
"My first memory is of
sitting on a rocking horse in the living room, eating an orange which my
mother had peeled for me. When I finished the orange, I ate the
peel, not something I’d care to do now!2
Prefab Houses
"Our house was a
single storey prefab, one of hundreds which had sprung up almost overnight
on what was then open countryside on the southern edge of Edinburgh to
accommodate the many newly married ex-servicemen and their families.
The homes were
pre-fabricated in the Blackburn aircraft factory (hence their name).
As and an old Edinburgher recalls:
'In the late
1940s, I can remember seeing pre-fab houses being delivered, going down
Dalkeith Road on the back of low-loader lorries, as I walked to school.
They were like small bungalows sliced in half with sinks, bathrooms and
lots of other things already fitted.' ”
Inside the Houses
"Viewed through modern eyes, accustomed to variety
and choice, it was a very peculiar place. Every house was exactly
the same; when you entered, there was a narrow hallway with two bedrooms
on the left and the bathroom ahead. On the right was a door into the
living room where everyone would have had a dining table, for meals were
taken in the living room.
Heating was by a coal fire with a back boiler to
heat the water. A door at the far end of the living room led to the
kitchen which, wonder of wonders, held a gas powered fridge!"
Gardens
"Every house had a good sized front and back garden
with a shed for storage. All of our fathers had to dig the debris of
building work out of the gardens before lawns could be laid and vegetable
gardens dug.
Our fathers all wore a bits and pieces of old
service dress to work in and in one family photo my father can be seen in
his old army trousers with a pick axe digging out assorted bits of
rubble."
Neighbours
"There was a broad mix of social classes, my father
was the Buyer at MacKenzie and Moncur, the heating engineers whilst next
door was the local chemist, Mr McPherson who was able to maintain a car
which he kept in a lock up garage down the road.
Across the street was Ronnie Allan who drove long
distance buses to and from London for SMT. Very few people could
afford cars so the streets were safe to play in. That's just as
well, because almost every house soon held several children with so many
of the occupants being newlyweds.
Other kids in the street that I can recall
are:
-
Eleanor Bathgate
(at No 2)
- Ronnie Allan
(at
No 6)
-
Michael Spence
(at
No 7)
-
George and Jennifer Hughes
(at
No 8)
-
Pauline Minor
-
Jennifer Roy
-
Brian Bass
-
Isobel McPherson."
Playing
"I recall playing with other
children in the back garden in the sunshine and hiding among the
blackcurrant bushes when we played hide and seek.
In the winter, if there was
snow, someone would get hold of a long, wooden bread delivery tray which
we would sledge down from the top of the road to the bottom with several
of us on board.
One day, when I was 3 or 4,
some kids came past the garden and suggested that I came with them to play
in their garden. Their house was near the west end of Moredun Park Road,
so I drove my pedal car round there with them.
After a while I announced
that I should get home and pedalled away. However, I took a wrong turning
and ended up in Moredun Park Street where I asked the way from a man
cutting a hedge. When I got home it turned out my mother had been cruising
the area in a police car looking for me! I couldn't understand what all
the fuss had been about."
Craigour Loan
Moving House
"We moved round the corner
from 5 Craigour Avenue to one of the larger houses in Craigour Loan in
1956 when I was nearly five years old.
We moved all our furniture on
the local coal man's lorry. My brother and I stood on the back.
There was no 'Health and Safety' then!"
Andrew Morton, Musselburgh, East
Lothian, Scotland: September 13, 2014
|
Recollections
28.
Lilian Young
Hamilton Square, New Jersey, USA |
Thank you
to Lilian Young for writing again:
Lilian wrote: |
Calder Road
Our Home
"I loved the photos of the prefabs
above. We were
one of the first families to move into the
prefabs at Sighthill on Calder Road. We
lived on the main road. All
our prefabs had asbestos material on the outside.
Those in the row behind us were aluminum like those shown in your
photos."
Bedrooms
"My Mom always
maintained that the interiors of the homes must
have been designed by a female, as we had so
many built- in cupboards and drawers,
so it was easy to furnish the bedrooms with only beds and a dresser
next to the bed. The wardrobes and
cupboards were already there."
Kitchen
"The kitchen was
large and had a fold-down table which could be
put away to give more workroom. We had one
of the first refrigerators which most folks didn't know how to use.
My Mom made lots of iced lollies for us.
There was also a built-in
boiler for doing the laundry and, we had two bathrooms - one a small
toilet and sink at the front door and the second a full bathroom with an
airing cupboard which allowed us to get warm towels when we came out of
the bath."
Kitchen
"Outside,
we had a nissen hut, similar to the old Anderson
shelters that we had during the war.
In it, we kept coal and gardening tools.
Each yard was fenced-in,
so that children could play in the back yard without fear of being run
over by vehicles - the few that did pass by - and our back gardens were
also a wonderful place to grow fruit trees to make the lovely home made
jams."
Return Visit to Edinburgh
"I attempted to find
a prefab when I was home on a visit to Edinburgh, but
did not find any. If I ever get to make another trip
there, I'll know where
to go to, to get a look at what my childhood
home was like."
Lilian Young,
Hamilton Square, New Jersey, USA:
September 13, 2014 |
Recollections
29.
Roddy Hunter
Rochdale,
Greater Manchester, England |
Thank you
to Roddy Hunter who wrote |
Calder Crescent
My Home
"I lived at 33
Calder Crescent, from 1952 'till early-1960s,
when we were re-housed into a flat at Stenhouse
I
have many fond memories of the prefabs, but
during our last year there, I remember a few of the house blowing up due
to gas leaks. I was so pleased to get out
of them in the end."
My School
"Murrayburn
Primary School, where I had to wear a
green coat uniform, was where we learned to play football.
Miss Emily was my teacher until I
left in early-1960s."
Roddy Hunter, Rochdale, Greater
Manchester, England: November 23, 2014 |
Recollections
30.
Roddy Hunter
Rochdale,
Greater Manchester, England |
Thank you
to Roddy Hunter for writing again.
Roddy
wrote: |
Calder Crescent
My Prefab Home
"I remember our prefab
at Calder Crescent with great fondness. It
had a front and back garden and I just had to cross a road to get to the
Union Canal where I could catch frog spawn and
minnows. We also went to a large adventure
playfield of unused ground. We could go
under the tunnel of the canal and emerge on the other side, and walk to a
local farm and feed the animals."
Move to Stenhouse
"After moving to Stenhouse flats I felt
really contained in a flat with no garden"
Move to Rochdale
"When
I was 20, I went on a walkabout,
really all over Europe, and ended up working with the homeless in Rochdale,
Greater Manchester for 30 years where I have now retired."
Return Visits to Edinburgh
"I do go up to Edinburgh every so often, but
despite a few attempts of trying to see my childhood area, its well gone
now."
Roddy Hunter, Rochdale, Greater
Manchester, England: November 25, 2014 |
Recollections
31.
Sonia
Zhuravlyova
England |
Sonia Zhuravlyova wrote: |
Swedish Prefab Houses
"I am researching a book on prefabs for
English Heritage.
I wonder if you could tell me – or ask the
online community – about any remaining Swedish prefabs in Edinburgh.
Are they still standing? Are
there any photos? It would be great to get
in touch with some of the residents."
Sonia Zhuravlyova,
England: December 21 2015. |
Reply to Sonia
I don't
cannot recall any Swedish prefabs that are still standing in Edinburgh.
However, I've added your comments to this page on the web site so that
others can let you know if they are aware of any.
If anybody
would like to contact Sonia,
please email me to let me know , then I'll pass on her email
address to you.
Thank you.
Peter Stubbs, Edinburgh:
December 26, 2015 |
Recollections
32.
Archie Young
Moredun,
Edinburgh |
Thank you to Archie Young, Moredun, Edinburgh who wrote, giving
his memories of the district that he lived in and of the
interior of his prefab home.
Archie wrote: |
Milton Drive
and Coillesdene Avenue
"I've just read
Recollections 17 above, written by Pamela Thompson
who lived a Milton Drive but I can’t,
for the life of me, remember Pamela.
I lived in 91 Coillesdene Avenue and we were,
as far as my mum and dad told me, the first ones
to move into the prefabs. That was in 1947.
I was two years old then.
I think where Pamela lived, there were two
Prefabs. One family that I do remember
living there were the McDougals (or MacDougals).
The son's name was Stuart.
He became very friendly with Paul Young,
the Actor.
At
the top of the Milton Drive where Pamela lived,
there was a bungalow. Mr. Bell
lived in it."
The Prefab Houses
"The
prefabs were fantastic little houses.
They were very cold in the winter but in the summer they were
sweatboxes.
In
their day, they had everything.
The
kitchen
had a boiler for doing the washing and a gas fridge.
The kitchen was a fair size and it also had a big
larder.
The
living room
was decent in size with a coal fire that had two doors on it.
Mum later on had a tiled fireplace put in.
There
was also a nice hallway
as you entered the front door.
My
bedroom was
OK. It had a fitted steel wardrobe where
my toys were kept. I also had a wooden
wardrobe and a tallboy ( set of drawers).
Mum and dad’s bedroom
was quite big. There again,
it was a fitted with a steel wardrobe
that my dad used, and
there were about five or six small fitted cupboards in the wall.
Mum put her wooden wardrobe in front of them.
There
was a dressing table and their double bed and there was a lot of room to
move about in.
The toilet
was a fair size. With the toilet was a
wash basin and a bath. Behind the bath was
a built-in airing cupboard.
Being
at the gable end of the street, we had a big
garden,
front and side and it was the same with the back of the house.
The council made use
of the old Anderson Air-Raid Shelters
by making them into coal houses and,
of course, dad kept his garden tools there as
well.
We
never had to put a lock on it until around 1965 when the crooks started to
steal items from them.
Photos
"I must look out a
couple of photos that I have of me taken in the
front garden. One of them was taken when
there was just a field there, before they built
the new houses as a continuation of Coillesdene
Avenue down to Eastfield.
Buses
"Buses were
'ten a penny'. At
first there were the faithful
trams then buses Nos. 25,
26 and the No.15
that went to Morton Street (-
that was the lower road). On Milton
Road we had the number 44 and the S.M.T. they were all regular in those
days. You could set
your watch with them.
The route numbers are still the same
today, 70 years later - Peter Stubbs
Leaving the Prefabs
"We were first in
and first out of the prefabs, and how my mum
cried when we moved out. I think that was
in 1964. We went
to Rankin Drive at West Mains but we really hated it because
after all the years of having our own front and
back door we were now in a stair on the top
flat.
I wish I could relive those days again and
having all my pals there and breathing in the
sea air."
Archie Young, Moredun, Edinburgh:
12 December 2015 |
Recollections
33.
Stuart Lyon
Blackford, Edinburgh |
Thank you to Stuart
Lyon who wrote, sending me the photograph above of a house in West
Pilton Place in response to a question from Sonia Zhuravlyova
(Prefab Houses, Recollections 31) asking if there were any
remaining Swedish prefabs in Edinburgh.
Stuart replied: |
Swedish
Houses
West Pilton
Place
©
"Houses such as the one in the photo
above were always called the 'Swedish Houses' when I grew up in
Pilton in the 1950s!
I don’t recall them being called
prefabs but I think they were ‘kit’ houses that were contracted
quicker than a traditional build. There are some of these up near
Wester Hailes too.
Stuart
Lyon, Blackford, Edinburgh: December 28, 2015 |
Recollections
34.
Ian Wood
Norway |
Thank you to Ian Wood
who wrote, following up the comments in
Recollections 31 and
Recollections 33 above.
Ian wrote: |
Swedish
Prefabs
"I stumbled across your site, and
have been browsing a sort of communal memory of prefab living.
I grew up in a prefab in Sighthill, and will make a wee post in
a while.
However you ask about Swedish
prefabs, and I think I know what is being referred to.
I went to Wester Hailes Primary in
the late-1940s, and across the road from the school were what we
called 'the Swedish houses', two storey wooden houses that would
have been delivered prefabricated.
It's perhaps 10 years since I last
drove round there - I live in Norway now - but when I did they
were still there, and virtually unchanged. I had a look at
Google Earth just now and as far as I can see they're still
there on Sighthill Crescent, opposite what is now Sighthill
Library.
Ian
Wood, Norway: 18 December 2016 |
Thank you, Ian
Thank you for your
comments above, Ian. I've now looked again at this page
and found that your comments are consistent with Bob Henderson's
comments in his Recollections 4
above.
I look forward to
hearing from you again. Just send me an email with any of
your recollections you have, then I'll add them to the web site.
Peter Stubbs, Edinburgh:
26 December 2016 |
Recollections
35.
Ian MacKay
Cossall, Nottingham,
Nottinghamshire, England |
Thank you to Ian McKay
who wrote: |
60 Northfield Drive
Our Prefab
"We lived in a prefab at 60
Northfield Drive. After where we had come from - a slum in
Admiralty Street, Leith - we thought our prefab was Heaven.
I lived there until 1960 when I joined
the RAF and served two years in Hong Kong, never to return to
Northfield Drive."
Our Family
"Our family name at the prefab was
Mckenzie as my mother was a re-married widower. My step
brothers were Jackie Mckenzie and Alistair Mckenzie and my step
sister was Georgina (Gina) Mckenzie."
Our Neighbours
"The family next door to us were the
Golds. They emigrated to Australia. On the
other side were the McDonalds. Mr McDonald was a milkman
with St. Cuthbert's Co-op."
Ian MacKay, Cossall, Nottingham, Nottinghamshire,
England 22 + 22 + 23 January 2017 |
Recollections
36.
Gavin Montgomery
Western Australia, Australia |
Thank you to Gavin
Montgomery
who wrote: |
My Homes
and
Schools
"I lived in a prefab at 9 Calder
Broadway Sighthill frommid-1940s until the Corporation moved us
to Saughton Mains Terrace about 1964/65.
I went
to Wester Hailes Primary School, then to Murrayburn Primary,
then to Pentlands Senior in Gorgie, then to Forresters after it
was built at the Gyle.
The Gyle park had the Coronation
celebrations where we all got the coin and mug to take away."
The Prefabs
"Our prefab had a front door, back
door and side door. Inside, the house, there were:
- two bedrooms
- a living room with fireplace
that could heat the water boiler
- a bathroom and a separate
toilet.
- a large hall area with
cupboards and airing closet. The gas and water meters were
in one of the hall cupboards.
- a kitchen and a pantry for
storing food. The kitchen had a gas fridge, gas cooker,
double sink where a wringer could be placed in the middle to
wring out the washing. There were cupboards under sinks
and at the side of cooker, and a table to eat from that folded
out from the wall.
Outside the house we had fenced
gardens at the front, side and rear:
- Front for the flowers.
- Side for the potatoes,
carrots, peas, rhubarb, cabbage, lettuce and sprouts.
- Rear for drying the washing,
fruit trees, gooseberries, raspberries, some other veggies and
the Anderson shelter for the coal and tools."
Growing Up
"The Calders was
probably the best place any child could grow up in. We
went:
-
up the Crescent to the Union Canal
where Mr Wright lived in the boathouse with his son David
- down the field to the
Murray Burn where jumping across the canal was good sport, and
there were trout in it
-
then under the canal bridge to the
farmer's fields on the other side to help at times with the
harvest of whatever had been planted, corn, potatoes or BIG
lovely turnips that yes slipped away at Halloween.
When we were kids, it never really
seemed to rain. The sun shone all day. We left home
in the morning, went out to school or to play, came back for
lunch, out again to school or play, home for tea and back out
again till it got dark or till you could hear your mother
calling you in.
When it snowed, we were up to the
sledging hill at the canal bridge on Wester Hailes Road.
If you were good enough, you could get down to the Murray Burn
next to the Air Cadets hut on Sighthill Drive."
The District
"I remember:
- Bonfire Night, each
November, behind Mrs Wood's house on the Crescent.
- The bus terminal (No's 34,
35 and 22 a bit later) at the top of the road.
- the police house across the
bridge on Calder Road. (I think Mr McKenzie lived there.
He used to cycle around on his police bike making sure all was
well and we were doing the right thing or else!
- The gypsies would sometimes
set up camp on the other side of the canal bridge to the police
house.
-
The German Road, as I knew it. I think it was called
Cultins Road. That's where we would ride our carts down
the hill from the canal bridge to the railway bridge at the
bottom.
-
The German camp was on Calder Road.
That's where the people were housed, but the area became a
fabulous playground where we played our war games after they
moved out.
- This area all later became
the Industrial area. Some of the first there were The Ethicon,
Burtons the baker, Bank of Scotland and The Orlit (who made
bricks and concrete blocks)."
Fields
"There were the fields, a massive
swath of land between Calder Gardens and Calder Drive.
They went from the bus terminal on Calder Road right down over
the Murray Burn to the Union Canal, along to the bridge at
Wester Hailes Road and then even further on towards the
Pentlands.
Baberton Quarry was up there on the
other side of the canal as well."
Shops
and
Church
"The Gerry camp was across the road
from St Cuthberts store where we would help mum, every week, to
get the rations.
- Mr Cooper had the
Butcher shop on Calder Broadway.
- Mr Arnott had the Paper shop.
- Mrs Taylor had the
Drysalters
- Watson and Wells was the
Haberdashery shop. It was across the road from the
Newsagent was
- Our church was a wooden hut
up by the stone cottages and across the Calder Road from Dr
McDermid. House."
Other Kids
"Some of the kids around the
Broadway were:
- Brian and Joyce House,
- Margaret Paterson,
- Joyce Wishart,
- Sandra Cooper,
- The Ronalsons,
- The Coulsons,
- The Doigs
- The Coulsons
- Irene
Cunningham,
- Stuart Lindsay."
The Streets
"I remember:
- The 'onion' man used to come
round on his bike, selling onions.
- The rag and bone man would
come round with his horse and cart and usually swap goldfish for
what we would give him.
- The store milk horse cart
and the Dumfriesshire dairy electric cart would deliver the
milk.
- Mr Walker, the RAC
patrolman, lived in the Crescent and got about on his motorbike
and sidecar.
- The gypsies would knock at
the door and offer to fix pots and pans that had holes in them,
or tell your fortune.
- Sometime a brush salesman
would be round selling their product."
Gavin Montgomery, Australia since 1971.
Western Australia with wife Joyce (nee Seaton) - yes from the
top of Calder Gardens
17 May 2018 |
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