"OK, here are some thoughts, though
"The carriages are third class so that
would make the picture before the mid-fifties. They look like they
may be all one dark colour, eg maroon, so could belong to LMS.
I understand that LMS operated from
Caledonian Station while LNER operated from Waverley, so the train
may have left from Caledonian.
There is a blurring of the faces in
the image which could suggest that the train was moving, which
would be the case if the train was passing through Waverley rather
than leaving from there."
But see comments from Patrick
Hutton below. - Peter Stubbs
"The subject of the photograph appears
to be the train and the nearest faces seem to be looking directly
at the camera. However, the photographer may have been trying to
capture more than just those few people, and include some of the
Caste hill skyline.
If the photographer had wanted a
picture of the train, wouldn't they be more likely to have taken
it when the train was sitting still?
It is subjective but I think that the
composition of the image does not seem as good as it might have
been given time to plan it. So, I suspect that this could have
been an unplanned situation where the photographer realised that
there was some significance in this particular train and
quickly snapped the picture."
"Building speculation on speculation
isn't a good idea but I was wondering, if the train had left from
Caledonian Station, would the occupants still be hanging out the
windows through Waverley?
Probably only if they felt that they
had an audience there?
The visible faces are all young men,
so perhaps new recruits on their way to Glencorse?"
On the Platform
"We see two men on the platform. The
nearer one could be a railway official (at first I thought he was
holding a flag), but he also appears to be holding a pair of
gloves and smoking a cigar, so perhaps not.
The other guy is wearing plus-fours. I
have no 1st hand experience of the fashions of that time, but I
suspect that plus-fours were not very fashionable even then.
Unless you were a retired army general or something like that."
Notices on the Carriages
"There are some white marks that may
be chalked writing between the last two compartments on the first
carriage. There also may be destination or "reserved" notices in a
couple on the windows."
"There are leaves on the trees, so
should be summer-time. If there were other photos available of the
same area then perhaps the heights of trees could indicate
the approximate era of the photograph."
Back of the Postcard
"There's not a lot to say about the
logo on the back, unless someone actually recognises it. It looks
art deco in style so possibly originated in the 1920s or 30s?
Also, as there is no indication of a
stamp instruction, the postcard stock manufacturer has placed
their logo on it.
The logo looks like a stylised wing to
me. I don't recognise any letters that may have been incorporated
in the design."
Front of the Postcard
"The image on the front isn't titled
and doesn't look like it would have a lot of sales potential, so I
suspect that some sensitised postcard stock was used to print the
If the numbers on the carriages are
decipherable on the original, then perhaps a railway buff could
date them quite accurately
(It was interesting to see how much
Post Office van data was produced, in the right hands).
PO Van Accident
John Hadden, Edinburgh: August 7, 2006