Recollections
Keir Street
and
Heriot Place
Two streets to the north of
Lauriston Place,
between the College of Art and George Heriot's School |
Recollections |
1. |
Anita Razzell
(née
Canale)
Qualicum Beach,
British Columbia, Canada
|
- Military School of
Cookery: Question |
1.
Reply 1 |
Jim Robertson
Berlin, Germany
|
- Military School of
Cookery: Answer |
1.
Reply 2. |
Neil
Macdonald
Livingston, West Lothian, Scotland |
- 25a Keir Street
- Possible Meeting
- My Grandfather
|
2. |
Anita Razzell
(née
Canale)
Qualicum Beach,
British Columbia, Canada
|
- Demolition
- Dancing |
3. |
Henry (Rae) Phillips
Edinburgh
|
- Family
- Neighbours
- The Neighbourhood |
4. |
Ken Boak
Redhill, Surrey, England
|
- Demolition
|
5. |
Ken Boak
Redhill, Surrey, England
|
- Heriots
|
6. |
John Burnett
Burntisland, Fife, Scotland |
-
Family
- Neighbours at No 12
- Other Neighbours
|
7. |
Lynda Maine
Colinton Mains |
- Fortune Teller
|
8. |
Patricia Manderson
(née
Slattery)
Australia |
- Betty Brandon's Dance
Classes
|
9. |
Margaret Johnston
(née
Slattery)
Australia |
- Photo
- The Blind Man
- Neighbours
|
10. |
Michael Slattery
Australia |
- 1946-58
- Mary Wallace's Shop
- Maggie's Chip Shop
- Puppet Theatre
- Piping and Dancing
- Heriot's School
|
11. |
Nancy Abbott
(née Gilchrist)
South Africa |
-
Heriot Place
|
12. |
Tony
White
Edinburgh |
- Tenement Demolition
|
13. |
Tony White
Edinburgh |
- Mr Pendreigh
- Neighbours
- Bonfires
|
14. |
Tony White
Edinburgh |
- Latch Key Kids
- Latch Keys
- Stair Notices
|
15. |
Ron
Dingwall
Keir Street, West Lothian, Scotland |
- Heriots School: Ma
Wallace's Shop
|
16. |
Allan Dodds
Nottingham, Nottinghamshire, England |
- Heriots School: Ma
Wallace's Shop
|
17. |
Angela
Cochrane
Australian Capital Territory |
-
12 Keir Street: James Cochrane
|
18. |
Saeeda
Clayson
(née Sulaiman)
Norfolk. England |
- 10 Keir Street
|
19. |
Terry Cox
Fairmilehead, Edinburgh |
-
Norrie Stenhouse
- Andy Pendreigh
|
19.
Reply 1. |
Stacey
Barnes
Fairmilehead, Edinburgh |
- Andy Pendreigh
|
19.
Reply 2. |
Steven Colquhoun
Edinburgh |
- Keir Street
- The Pendrigh Family
- Sandy
- Andy Pandy
- My Mum and Dad
- My Cousins
- My Great Gran
- My Gran
- The Fortune Teller
- Mrs Farmer
- Pipe Music
- Family Moves
|
20. |
Thomas
Harrison
Buckstone, Edinburgh |
- The Vennel
- Stories and Families
|
21. |
Steve
Collier
Edinburgh |
- Kenya Cafexxx
- Our Home -
2 Keir Street
- Our Local Shops
- My Family
- Our Neighbours
- Ma Wallace's Shop
- Clifton Hall
- 'The Jewsy'
|
22. |
Allan Dodds
Nottingham, Nottinghamshire, England |
- Heriots School:
Kenya Cafe
|
23. |
Judith Gaminek
Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada |
-
18 Keir Street
|
24. |
Pete Nolan
Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada |
- Grassmarket and Keir Street |
Question
1.
Anita Razzell (née
Canale)
Qualicum Beach, British Columbia, Canada
|
Thank you to
Anita Razzell for providing two photos of his
grandfather, William Sutherland Low. |
Anita wrote:
Military School of
Cookery
Question
"Here are two old
military photos of my Grandfather, William Sutherland Low. He
was born in or around Montrose on Feb 5, 1891 and lived at 12 Keir
Street, Edinburgh from about 1937 until his death on September 22,
1961.
©
Reproduced with acknowledgement to Anita Razzell, British Columbia,
Canada
I wonder if anyone
can give me any information about the uniforms or the 'School
of Cookery' that he was attached to. In the photo above,
William is seated on the left, wearing a white jacket. He is
next to the standing man.
The photo below,
taken in 1918, is of :
- William
Sutherland Low.
- his wife,
May.
- his son,
John.
- baby,
Dorothy.
©
Reproduced with acknowledgement to Anita Razzell, British Columbia,
Canada
Anita
Razzell,
Qualicum Beach, British Columbia, Canada:
November 11, 2008 |
If you can answer the questions that Anita asks,
please email me, then I'll pass on your message to her.
Thank you. -
Peter Stubbs: November 18, 2008 |
Question
1.
Reply
1.
Jim Robertson
Berlin, Germany |
Thank you to
Jim Robertson who left a reply in the guestbook. |
Jim wrote:
"I would say
this photo could be a Course photograph for Regimental cooks,
with so many different cap badges, as they did not have an army
catering corps during that period and each Regiment had there own
cooks.
Or, it
could also have been a military HQ Group on exercise.
This would also explain all the different cap badges worn.
Personally I would go for the first one.
It's the most likely one."
Jim Robertson, Berlin, Germany:
Message left in EdinPhoto guest book, November 22, 2008 |
Question
1.
Reply
2.
Neil MacDonald
Livingston, West Lothian,
Scotland |
Thank you to
Neil Macdonald who wrote: |
25a Keir Street
"I was born in 7a Graham Street
which later became 25a Keir Street, so I've just been looking at the
Keir Street recollectons on this page.
The first entry that I looked at was
from Anita Razzell. Well, my stomach jumped to say the least.
I saw the
first picture she had posted, and have that very same photo, myself."
©
"I've
been looking for information regarding my grandfather, Fred Huthersall (born
30 Jan 1901) and his war activities - and there he
is on the left side of the back row, of the picture, standing two rows behind Anita's grandfather
Fred also used regularly to visit us, as he was a pig breeder in a
smallholding at Damhead and his collection rounds hit Lothian Road
and off Princess Street.
Possible Meeting
"It makes you wonder, after 50 years,
if he and Anita's grandfather may
have passed each other in Graham/Keir Street, unaware they had gone
through similar experiences, or if that 100yds between Anita's
grandfather's house and our house was just that small step too far.
My Grandfather
"According to family stories, my
grandfather was lead horse rider of a horse-drawn gun team.
While at
Redford barracks, Edinburgh, there was an explosion resulting in my
grandfather being hospitalized at Piershill Barracks/hospital where the
damage to his leg/hip nearly resulted in amputation.
Thanks to the
intervention of a girl, who was part of the now St Andrew's and St
George's West war wounded visitation team, Fred not only kept his leg
but he gained a girl friend who later became his wife.
My
grandfather didn't discuss the wars. I think he would not have been
able to return to full active duty on recovery, and would possibly have
been transferred to the
catering side."
Neil MacDonald, Livingston, West
Lothian, Scotland: 23 October 2016 |
Recollections
2.
Anita Razzell (née
Canale)
Qualicum Beach, British Columbia, Canada
|
Anita Razzell added: |
Demolition
©
"Here is a
photo of the north side of Keir Street, taken in 1969. This side of the
street has been torn down. Does anyone know when this happened?"
Dancing
"My memory of visiting my
grandparents in Keir Street is of the music coming from down the street
from the BETTY BRANDON SCHOOL OF DANCE.
Many was the time that the
thumping of tap shoes in unison could be heard down the street."
Anita Razzell (née
Canale), Qualicum Beach, British Columbia, Canada: Nov 23 + Dec 5,
2008 |
If you know when the north side of Keir Street was
demolished,
please email me,
then I'll pass on your message to Anita.
Thank you. -
Peter Stubbs: December, 2008 |
Recollections
3.
Henry (Rae) Phillips
Edinburgh
|
Thank you to
Henry (Rae) Phillips, Edinburgh,
who wrote about the time when he lived in Keir Street.
Rae wrote: |
Family
"I lived at no. 12
Keir St. from 1946 until about 1958. The
North side was still there when we left. I
went to George Heriots school so I really was on the doorstep.
My mother, Gladys Phillips,
who is now a sprightly 91 worked at Goldbergs for a number of years.
©
My dad, Harry
Phillips, was the second person to have a car in Keir
Street. It was an Austin 7."
Neighbours
"Some of the names I
remember are:
-
Mrs Sinclair, who
lived at No 12
-
Mr & Mrs Pat Smith,
also at no.12
-
The Slattery' family and a
blind man who lived almost opposite on the north side
of the street.
- The
Hymans, a Jewish family who lived where the Art
college is now situated.
-
Mr Beck, an inventor
of some sort. He lived just along from us
and was the first person to have a car."
The Neighbourhood
"There were gas
lights in our stairs.
We had a huge bonfire on the land to the
south of Keir street, which was also looked on
to by that section of Lauriston Place.
Davey, the
co-op milk man, was
round every day with his horse and cart. Even
when we moved out to Greenbank Drive, we
still had milk delivered by the same Davey with horse and cart,
right up 'till about 1960."
Any names or memories that
anybody has would be welcome."
Henry (Rae) Phillips, Edinburgh: May 5,
2009
|
Recollections
4.
Ken Boak
Redhill, Surrey,
England |
Thank you to
Ken Boak who wrote: |
Demolition
"Anita
Razzell's photo of Keir Street in 1969 (2 above)
brought back some vivid childhood memories for me.
I started at Heriot's in 1972 as a boy of 7, and I remember watching the
demolition of Keir St. during my lunch breaks - for almost a week.
There was a tall crane
fitted with a demolition ball, taking swings at the wrecked tenement.
We all cheered when a big lump came down, with dust and soot and the
old wallpaper still on the walls. I was standing at the edge of the
site at the top of the Vennel.
The exact timing of this
would be during the summer term, probably of 1974 - though I could be a
year out, either way."
Return to Heriots
"I walked past this site again last Saturday, while
revisiting Heriot's for their 350th Anniversary exhibition,
and remembered the demolition. I stopped specifically to remember
what I had seen all those years ago. The area has never been
redeveloped - it's still a car park after 35 years."
Ken Boak, Redhill, Surrey, England:
August 27, 2009
|
Recollections
5.
Ken Boak
Redhill, Surrey,
England |
Thank you to
Ken Boak who added: |
Heriots
"I
attended
Heriots between 1972 and 1976.
I
remember the lunchtime trip down the Vennel to the chip
shop in the Grassmarket.
Hence my interest in the demolition of Keir
Street.
I'm struggling to remember the north side of
Keir Street prior to the
demolition. Perhaps most of it was already down, and it was just the last
corner at the Vennel end that was finally demolished.
That area of town was
very scruffy in the early 1970s. Demolition, rather than renovation, was the
order of the day.
Ken Boak, Redhill, Surrey, England:
August 28, 2009
|
Recollections
6.
John Burnett
Burntisland, Fife,
Scotland |
Thank you to
John Burnett who wrote: |
Family
"My grandparents, the
Sinclairs, lived in the middle on the top floor
of 12 Keir Street.
I lived with
my parents, Robert and Elizabeth Burnett,
and two brothers, Raymond and Robert, round the corner
at 10 Graham Street,
later renamed Keir Street."
Neighbours at No 12
"I
remember, living at 12 Keir Street, were:
- Mrs Sinclair
- Mrs
Millar
- The
Orr family
- the
Moody family
-
O'Donnel, a dancer on The White Heather Club
- The
Low family
(see
1 above.) -
also Margaret and Willamina?
- Mr & Mrs Pat Smith
and their sons Terry and Michael.
I went to school with Terry - St Ignatius then Holy Cross.
There was also another couple who
owned the art shop at Greyfriars. They had a big Alsatian,
Joe, who barked like mad when we came down the stairs after
listening to 'Journey into Space'
up at my Granny's."
Other Neighbours
"Others that
I remember, living in Keir Street, were:
- the
Slattery' family and a blind man who lived almost opposite on the north
side of the street.
- the
Hymans, a Jewish family who lived where the Art college is now situated.
He used to go ballistic if you went into the ruins of the
synagogue.
-
Mr Beck, an inventor of some sort. He lived just along from us and
was the first person to have a car.
-
the Phillips family
Was there not a fortune teller in
the street?"
John Burnett, Burntisland, Fife,
Scotland |
Recollections
7.
Lynda Maine
Colinton Mains,
Edinburgh |
Thank you to
Lynda Maine who wrote: |
Fortune Teller
"John
Burnett
(Recollections 6 above)
talked about someone telling fortunes in Keir Street.
I can remember my mother and one of her
friends went there. She was actually quite good,
and told my mother a few things that came
true. Her name was Mrs Farmeras
She.
she and her husband moved to somewhere off
Dalry Road. There was always a waiting
list to see her."
Lynda Maine, Colinton, Edinburgh:
April 26, 2010 |
Recollections
8.
Patricia Manderson (née
Slattery)
Australia |
Thank you to
Patricia Manderson who wrote: |
Betty Brandon's Dance
Classes
"I lived at
5 Keir Street and attended
Betty Brandon's dance classes with my sisters.
I used to go to nursery school at the top of the
Vennel steps.
I
emigrated to
Australia in 1967."
Patricia Manderson (née Slattery),
Australia: May 23, 2010 |
Recollections
9.
Margaret Johnston (née
Slattery)
Australia |
Thank you to
Margaret Johnston (née Slattery), Australia
who wrote: |
Photo
"I've
just found this photo, taken, about 1956,on the steps of 5 Keir Street,
Edinburgh"
©
Please click on this thumbnail
image to enlarge the photo and to read about who is in the photo. |
The Blind Man
"I noticed people asking about
the blind man who lived in Keir Street. Others in the photo are my cousins
from Ayr. His name was Gavin. He lived in No. 11."
|
Neighbours
"Other people that I remember
from Keir Street are:
- The Greenans.
- Rosie Gaffney and her
mother.
- The Frisks.
- The McLeans.
We kids
had great fun in our street, playing peevers,
skipping and rounders at the Flodden Wall
Who could forget Mary Wallace's
shop in Heriot place and Maggie's fish and chip shop
at the foot of the Vennel."
|
Margaret Johnston (née Slattery), Australia:
June 3, 2010 |
Recollections
10.
Michael
Slattery
Australia |
Thank you to
Michael Slattery who wrote: |
1946-58
"I lived at 5 Kier Street
from 1946 to 1958 - what an experience, which
was never matched by our family's move to to The Inch!"
|
Mary Wallace's Shop
"I
remember Mary Wallace's wee shop where you could buy a penny Vantas and
where we might be sent to get some bread or margarine when supplies had
run out. Mary always seemed to have just
sat down to her tea when I'd come in for the messages!"
|
Maggie's Chip Shop
"I mind
being send down the Vennel steps to Maggie's
chip shop to get chip suppers - always with the warning from Mum,
'Tell her I don't want reheats!'."
|
Puppet Theatre
"I had
glove puppets and used to write plays and perform them with Rosemary
McKinley at No 9. The performances were in
the 'area' in a wooden
theatre that Rosemary's father,
Rab, had built for us."
|
Piping and Dancing
"My
godmother was Rosie Gaffney. She lived
with her old mother at No5, in the flat below us.
©
We
were a piping & dancing family. Dad would
often have us practice in the lobby. Can
you picture it? 3 pipers
and 6 or 7 dancers bouncing up and down and
'gi'in' it laldy',
till Rosie banged on her ceiling with a broom.
Perhaps she wasn't fond of piping and dancing!"
|
Heriot's School
"On
the other side of the Flodden Wall, of
course, there were the
young gentleman of Heriot's School. I'm
not sure whether the wall was keeping them in or
us out!"
|
Michael Slattery, Australia |
Recollections
11.
Nancy Abbott
(née
Gilchrist)
South Africa |
Thank you to
Nancy Abbott for posting messages in the EdinPhoto
guest book |
Heriot Place
"I used to live in Herriot Place
opposite George Herriot School. I went out with a Robert Burnett who had
brothers Raymond and John. We had friends, the MacDonalds, a large
wonderful family. If I
remember, there was also a John Swan.
I have so
many happy memories of these days.
The area was rich in history
with some wonderful characters. I think there
was a fortune teller who used to live round the corner.
I would be interested to hear
from anyone who lived in that area. I left
in 1969 when I joined the army to become a
nurse."
Nancy Abbott (née
Gilchrist), South Africa: Messages posted in EdinPhoto guest book,
January 23, 2011
|
Recollections
12.
Tony White
|
In 'Recollections 2' above, Anita Razzell wrote:
©
"Here is a
photo of the north side of Keir Street, taken in 1969. This side of the
street has been torn down. Does anyone know when this happened?"
Anthony White replied: |
Tenement Demolition
"The
buildings on the north side of Keir Street were demolished not long after
the photo above was taken in 1969.
I lived at 17 Keir Street (just
out of shot on the left of the picture) until the summer of 1969. Our flat,
along with all the other buildings on that side of the street,
was subject to a compulsory purchase order to enable expansion of
Edinburgh Art College
It was very frustrating that the
land where the buildings stood was cleared but lay virtually unused for
many years after as the tenements were fine, spacious properties that
needed only some modest restoration.
The wall at the end of the street
encloses George Heriots school. Could that possibly be old Mr Pendreigh
with the 'best dug in Edinburgh' just in front? Surely
no!"
I wonder who those children are
at the stair front?"
Tony White, Edinburgh: November
25, 2011 |
Recollections
13.
Tony White
Edinburgh
|
After reading 'Recollections 12' above, I asked Tony
White who Mr Pendreigh was.
He replied: |
Mr Pendreigh
"Mr Pendreigh was a local
'character' at Keir Street. (I
hope I've spelled his name correctly.)
I was very young when I left Keir
Street and it's a long time ago, but I remember him well
- and his dog. The dog looked older
than him.
He appeared in the film
'The Pride of Miss Jean Brodie'
as a street busker. They filmed a brief scene on the Vennel steps, and Mr
Pendreigh was included to give the scene some authenticity,
I guess."
Neighbours
"Some other local people I
remember from Keir Street include:
-
the Swans
-
the Cooks
-
the Laidlaws
-
the Wilsons
- the
Craigs."
Bonfires
"Someone
mentioned a bonfire (a bonny, in the vernacular).
These events took place in a bit of wasteland known as
'The Lane'. That was
the area between the blocks of houses in Kerr Street, Heriot Place and
Lauriston Place.
It
included a ruined piece of property that looked a little like an old fort
and was gloriously named 'Chuckaboombas' -
I suppose because it was a good vantage for throwing (chucking) stones."
Tony White, Edinburgh: November
29+30, 2011 |
Recollections
14.
Tony White
Edinburgh
|
Thank you to Tony White for writing again with more
memories of growing up in Edinburgh. Tony remembers the latch keys
from several of the tenements where he has stayed in Edinburgh after
leaving Keir Street at the age of eight.
Tony wrote: |
Latch Key Kids
"It's safe to conclude that the
term 'latch key kid' is American in origin even if the practice it
describes, of children coming home from school and letting themselves into
the family home while their absent parents are still at work, has been
commonplace in Edinburgh for goodness knows how many years."
Latch Keys
"A
latch key as I know it was a form of door entry technology giving access
to any of the common stairways in tenements across the city that had a
suitable latch key lock on the street door. It would let you into the
stairway, but not any of the flats therein.
It was basically a very primitive
form of key. From the street, the key could be placed into a slot in
the door handle plate and then lifted to raise the latch on the inside of
the door thus releasing the lock. A small metal plate within the mechanism
offered some security and acted as a guide for the key itself which was
designed to fit the width and depth of the plate.
That was the theory. In practice,
if you knew how, you could open just about any latch with a deft flick of
your finger or with a lolly stick or with your house key or whatever.
It would be surprising, to me at
least, if there are any latch keys in practical use in Edinburgh now,
as they have been made obsolete by buzzer entry systems and more
sophisticated and secure locks and keys. As a paper delivery boy back in
the 1970s, I was
issued with a latch key. In truth, it was more bother than it was worth. I
learned how to open all the doors without it before long.
I reckon a lot of folks now would
be aghast at people's casual attitude towards security in those innocent
days."
Tony White, Edinburgh: November
30, 2011 |
Latch Keys
Thank you to Tony White for also sending me a
photograph of a latch key. It's a long time since I last saw one of
those, but it looked very familiar to me from the time in the
late-1960s when I lived in a tenement at Comely Bank.
I expect that seeing the photo of the key would
bring back memories to others as well. I'll investigate the
copyright of that image and see if I can add it to this page on the web
site.
Stair Notices
Another item that I've not seen since then is the
cardboard notice that was passed weekly from one neighbour to the next .
It read:
o
o
IT IS YOUR TURN
TO CLEAN THE
COMMON STAIR |
The notice had string attached to its two top
corners so that it could be hung over your neighbour's door knob.
Replies?
It will be interesting to see if anybody replies
telling me that these keys and notices are still in use in some parts of
Edinburgh.
Peter Stubbs, Edinburgh: December 3, 2011 |
Recollections
15.
Ron Dingwall
Bathgate, West
Lothian, Scotland |
Thank you to Ron Dingwall, Bathgate, West Lothian,
who wrote: |
Heriot's School
Ma Wallace's Shop
"I was a pupil at Heriots
between 1960 and 1965.
I remember Ma Wallace's shop very well. She
opened at 8.30 every morning and there was always a queue of hungry
schoolboys waiting
The counter was already laid out
with 1d, 2d & 3d sweets to be bought and
consumed before classes started, or even in
class. Lunchtime was exactly the same and
I'm sure she made her 'fortune'
from us Herioters.
One incident,
however, sticks in my mind.
That was when the Headmaster Wm. McL Dewar
tried to ban pupils from using the shop. I
can't remember the reason but I think he had a formidable opponent in Ma
Wallace as the ban was very quickly reversed and happy days were here
again. I don't remember the date but I
think it was probably 1961-62."
Ron Dingwall, Bathgate,
West Lothian: December 4, 2011 |
Recollections
16.
Allan Dodds
Nottingham,
Nottinghamshire, England |
Thank you to Allan Dodds who wrote |
Heriot's School
Ma Wallace's Shop
"Ma
Wallace is the same person as I referred to earlier. Her shop was
actually in The Vennel, around the corner. Ron Dingwall's comments
are apposite.
The school's
tuck shop was no match for Ma Wallace's confectionary - no single Woodbine
cigarettes for starters!"
Allan Dodds, Nottingham,
Nottinghamshire, England |
Recollections
17.
Angela Cochrane
Canberra, Australian Capital Territory,
Australia |
Here is a message that Angela Cochrane has posted in
the EdinPhoto guestbook.
Angela
wrote: |
Question
12 Keir Street
James Cochrane
"I believe my father,
James Cochrane, lived at 12 Keir Street
Edinburgh in April 1956. I'm
not sure how long before that or after he lived there.
He died in
1975 (age 43).
I'm
trying to locate my half-brother whose
birth name was John. His mother's
name at the time was Rose Docherty.
I noticed that some of your
contributors also appeared to have lived at or around number 12 Keir
Street at that time. Should anyone be able to provide me with any
information i would be greatful.
Many thanks,"
Angela Cochrane, Message
posted in EdinPhoto Guestbook |
Reply to Angela Cochrane?
I hope that Angela will receive a reply to her
message. If you'd like to send a reply to her, please:
- EITHER post a reply below her message in the
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Peter Stubbs, Edinburgh:
January 22, 2013
|
Recollections
18.
Saeeda Clayson
(née
Sulaiman)
Norfolk, England |
Thank you to Saeeda Clayson (née
Sulaiman) who wrote: |
10 Keir Street
"The
posts above, about Keir Street brought back so many happy memories of
growing up there. We moved to No.10 Keir Street in 1970,
I think, and my family (the Sulaimans)
lived in the area for the next 20 years or so."
Games
"I too
remember:
-
Bonnies*
in the lane
- Japs
and Commandos too, using the derelict building
as a fort (well it was the 1970s!)
-
Exploring the
old tenements, before they
were demolished to make way for the art college car park."
Neighbours
"The
characters I remember were:
-
Mr and Mrs. Webster who's wee dug was as broad
as it was tall.
- the
Pattersons.
- the
Ramsays.
- the
Macleods.
- the
Hutsons.
- and
loads more."
Shops
"In my
day:
-
the chippy down the Vennel was Tarry's
-
the shop on the
corner of Lauriston Place / Heriot Place was
Jackie's.
All our pocket money was spent
here:
-
on comics and
- on
home made penny ice lollies.
Single
fags were bought from the shop in the Grassmarket,
so you didn't get 'shopped'
to your Mammy!
Sometimes,
as a special treat, we'd be allowed a deep fried
scotch pie from the Kenya cafe next to Jackie's."
Fortune Teller
"I
wonder if the fortune teller,
that I've seen mentioned, lived at
No.10 as my mum said a psychic used to live in
our house. I'd love
to find out more as quite a few weird things happened in that house.
Thanks for the memories"
Saeeda Clayson (née Sulaiman), Norfolk,
England:
8 October, 2015 |
*
= Bonfires |
Recollections
19.
Terry Cox
Fairmilehead, Edinburgh |
Thank you to Terry Cox who wrote: |
Norrie Stenhouse
"Just been reading the
thread about Keir Street, and thought I'd put my tuppence worth in. I only
played in Keir Street (and Graham Street, as the bit onto Lauriston Place
used to be called) for a short while when I was pally with a boy from No.
28 Lauriston Place called Norrie Stenhouse."
Andy Pendrigh
"I see the mention of a Mr
Pendrigh. The only person that I remember
from Keir Street must've been
his son, or grandson, Andrew
Pendrigh.
Being called Andy Pendrigh, he
went under the nickname of Andy Pandy, but no-one called him that to his
face, as he was a tough little guy, and didn't like it."
Norrie and Andy?
"Does anyone remember either of
Norrie or Andy?"
Terry Cox, Fairmilehead, Edinburgh:
23 October 2015 |
Reply to Terry?
If you remember either Norrie or Andy and would like
to send a message to Terry Cox,
please email me to me to let me know, then I'll pass on his email
address to you.
Peter Stubbs, Edinburgh: 25
October 2015 |
Recollections
19.
Reply
1.
Stacey Barnes |
Thank you to Stacey Barns for replying to Terry
Cox's comments above.
Stacey wrote: |
Andy Pendrigh
"Hi.
We saw
Recollections 19 above.
Andy Pendrigh was my
father-in-law. He sadly passed away 2 years ago.
In
later years he was known as Pandy.
He
leaves behind a son, a
daughter and 4 grandchildren.
I've heard
him talk of living at Keir
Street."
Stacey Barnes: 8 February 2016 |
Recollections
19.
Reply
2.
Steven Colquhoun
Edinburgh |
Thank you to Steven Colquhoun for responding to
several of the comments above.
Steven wrote: |
Keir Street
"I
was intrigued by this recollections page about Keir Street. Here
are some memories from my family, in reply to the recollections above
from Terry Cox, Tony White and Angela Cochrane."
The Pendrigh Family
Sandy
"I
spoke to my mother, who was Joan Pendrigh, grandaughter of Sandy
Pendrigh who starred very briefly (5 seconds) in 'The Prime of Miss Jean
Brodie', as an Organ grinder with Candy the dog. Here is a photo
taken at the time.
Photo 1
Sandy Pendrigh and
Candy
© Reproduced
with acknowledgement to Steven Colquhoun
Andy Pandy
"Andy Pandy was my uncle, and he was a complete rebel. (Tollcross
Rebels) Andrew died a few years ago, sadly."
My Mum and Dad
"Angela Cochrane's mother and father, Jimmy and May, were Maid and Best
Man at my Mum and Dad's budget priced wedding.
My
Mum and Dad used to do their courting at the bottom of the Vennel which
leads out to the Grassmarket. They all went to the 'Wee Windaes'
for a meal after the wedding."
My Cousins
"My cousins, who all stayed with my Gran, went to the music school at
Heriot place:
-
Gerald, Eric, Brian, Paul, Annie, Joan, John, Francis, Margaret and
Andrew were all Pendrighs."
Photo 2
Pendrigh Family
Members
Margaret, Joan
holding Andrew (Pandy), John and Frances Pendrigh
© Reproduced
with acknowledgement to Steven Colquhoun
My Great Gran
"There must have been about 12 people staying in my Great Gran's house
at a time. Unfortunately my Gran's family were known as the Gypsy
family, as relatives were always coming and going, using 3 Keir Street
as a kind of half-way house."
My Gran
"My Gran and Auntie Anne brought up my Grandad's kids, as he was a
merchant seaman. My Gran died when my Mother and siblings were
quite young."
Photo 3
Gran and Sandy
Pendrigh
© Reproduced
with acknowledgement to Steven Colquhoun
The Fortune Teller
Mrs Farmer
"My Mum remembers Mrs Farmer, the 'Fortune Teller', whom she said was
always being raided by the Police for some reason. I think Mrs
Farmer used the the more exotic name of 'Mrs Farmeras' for her
business."
Pipe Music
"My mum also remembers the pipe music, and didn't realise that is came
from Mr Slattery's flat, but remembers the music and noise of the
dancing to this day.
Family Moves
"The Pendrighs moved from Livingston Place to Marshall Street then to
Keir Street before moving South to Hatfield with my Auntie Anne and
Uncle Jimmy Smith.
What a great trip down memory lane that was especially for my Mother
Joan Colquhoun (nee Pendrigh)."
Steven Colquhoun, Edinburgh, 8 February
+ 5 March, 2016 |
Recollections
20.
Thomas Harrison
Buckstone, Edinburgh |
Thank you to Thomas Harrison who wrote: |
The Vennel
"I've been searching for a
photograph of my birthplace. I was born on 18 February 1936 at at
19
The Vennel, around the corner of Keir Street. it was a main
door house directly opposite the Flodden Wall. I wonder if
any of your contributors from this area have any memories or photos."
Stories and Families
"I recall many of the stories
that I've read on this Keir Place page.
My
family relations all lived in the area, in The Vennel, Grassmarket and
Portsburgh Square. I remember the Hughes family, Harrison family,
Cormack family and Smith family. Thanks for memories."
Thomas Harrison, Buckstone, Edinburgh:
21 November, 2016 |
Reply to Thomas?
If you'd like to send a reply to Thomas Harrison,
please email me to me to let me know, then I'll pass on his email
address to you.
Peter Stubbs, Edinburgh: 26
December 2016 |
Recollections
21.
Steve Collier
Edinburgh |
Thank you to Steve Collier who wrote: |
Kenya Café
"I’m currently researching my
Mum’s family tree and was looking for information on the Kenya Café,
which was on Lauriston Place and was part owned by Mum’s Auntie Jean
(Hardie).
I don’t remember who her business partner was, but the café
was in a row of shops that included a cobbler’s (owned by Maurice Brown)
and a funeral director if my memory is correct."
Our Home - 2 Keir Street
"We lived in the first floor
flat at No 2 Keir Street, on the corner of Heriot Place, from when I was
about 10 months old till we moved to Viewforth Square in 1966.
(I’m 63 now.)
Mrs Duthie lived above us. Our
house at Keir Street was rented from Edinburgh University where my Dad
worked as a lab technician."
Our Local Shops
"I used to deliver papers for
the newsagent/ post office that was in Lauriston Place, next to a
grocer’s shop (Rae’s, I think) and an optician’s with the unlikely name
of Frank Seymour! Honest!."
My Family
"My mum and Dad were Charlotte
and Frank. I remember Mum going to see Mrs Farmer (Farmeras) to
have her fortune told, and her tea leaves and her palm read.
Like one of the previous
contributors, Dad also had an allotment on The Meadows for a couple of
years. The allotments there were to the east side of Middle Meadow Walk,
near to Melville Drive.
Sadly, both Mum & Dad are now
deceased (Dad in 1993 and Mum in 2013) as is my sister Lorna who died in
2016. My brother Iain was born in 1965."
Our Neighbours
"I recognise some of the names
of people mentioned in various posts:
– Norrie Stenhouse and
the Pendrigh Family. They lived right opposite us.
– Old Mr Pendrigh.
He went everywhere
with his wee dog.
– Keith Bell who I think lived at No. 7
or 9 Keir Street.
– Colin Fairgrieve from Graham Street as it was then.
– Michael
Taylor and his sister, Margaret. They lived, I think, at No. 5.
– Mr Paul who lived below us in Heriot Place.
He
was an RAC Patrolman who drove a mini van and had a big Alsatian dog.
Ma Wallace's Shop
"I remember Ma Wallace’s shop
too, though Mum always referred to her as Mrs Wallace because it sounded
more polite. I used to be sent there to by a 'forpit' of potatoes – 3
1/2
lbs in old parlance; 1.5 kgs for younger readers."
Clifton Hall
"I also recall attending Junior
First Aid classes in the Clifton Hall in Graham Street, as well as that
being the venue for dance classes and social events. I think I went to a
family wedding anniversary party there too."
'The Jewsy'
"There was a derelict plot on
the north-west corner of Keir Street and Graham Street that I think used
to be a synagogue or something similar – at any rate it was always referred to
as 'The Jewsy' and was treated as an adventure playground by us kids. I
ended up in casualty on more than one occasion after falling from the
walls!"
Steve Collier, Edinburgh: 19
April 2017 |
Reply to Steve?
If you'd remember anything about
Kenya Café and
would like to send a reply to Steve Collier
please email me to me to let me know, then I'll pass on his email
address to you.
Peter Stubbs, Edinburgh: 26
December 2016 |
Recollections
22.
Allan Dodds
Nottingham,
Nottinghamshire, England |
Thank you to Allan Dodds for replying to Steve
Collier's Recollections 21 above.
Allan wrote: |
Heriot's School
Kenya Cafe
"Many of us Herioters used
to frequent the Kenya Cafe as the food in the school refectory was
practically inedible and for the same price as a school lunch ticket -
1/4d in the 1950s - we could purchase glorious pie, beans and chips; far
preferable to the greasy, lumpy and inedible mince served up to us in
the refectory."
Allan Dodds, Nottingham,
Nottinghamshire, England: 25 April 2017 |
Recollections
23.
Judith Gaminek
Winnipeg, Manitoba,
Canada |
Thank you to Judith Gaminek who wrote: |
Edinburgh Visit
"When I was 21 years old, I
visit4ee Edinburgh and had a fabulous time. I did not go home at
the end of my 3 week holiday, but stayed for 2 years!
I lived for 6 months at Dinmont
Drive in The Inch, then for a few months in Keir Street, then
found a flat in Jamaica Mews (I loved that flat!"
Keir Street
"I was STUNNED when I read
Saeeda Clayson’s Recollection 18 above) when she mentioned her
neighbours, ‘the characters’, “The Ramsays”!
In Keir
Street, I lived with (Rab) Ramsay, his mother Jean, and his younger
brother and sister, David and Jacqueline – The Ramsays! And yes, they
were ‘characters’, to say the least!
I also remember 'a wee dug in
Keir Street, a sweet little black and white terrier named Judi. I don’t
remember her owners’ name, maybe it was the Websters!
Judi was the only dog I
remember ever seeing on Keir Street, other than the Ramsays’ Labrador
mix called ‘Spike’. I always felt sorry for Spike."
Judith Gaminek, Winnipeg, Manitoba,
Canada: 2017 |
Recollections
24.
Pete Nolan
Winnipeg, Manitoba,
Canada |
Thank you to Pete Nolan who wrote: |
Grassmarket + Keir Street
"I was born in The
Grassmarket in 1936. I knew the area well, along with the families
that Thomas Harrison mentions in his
Recollections 20 above
My pal lived in Keir Street,
opposite the Flodden Wall.
Pete Nolan, Winnipeg,
Manitoba, Canada: 28 April 2018 |
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