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Turnbull & Sons

GLASGOW & GREENOCK

Cabinet Print 1

 

Cabinet Print by Turnbull & Sons (front)

  Reproduced by courtesy of Dan MacMeekin, Washington, USA

Cabinet Print by Turnbull & Sons  (back)

  Reproduced by courtesy of Dan MacMeekin, Washington, USA

 

Turnbull & Sons

Glasgow and Greenock

Cabinet Print

Above is a cabinet print (front and back shown) from Turnbull & Sons who give addresses at Glasgow and Greenock.  They claim:

Licensees for the following patents: 
 Chromotype, Lambertype, Contretype & the Vanderwoyde

 

Thank you to  Dan MacMeekin for supplying the images above.

 

Question

When was this photo taken?

Dan MacMeekin has asked for the approximate date of this photo.

I've not been able to discover when Turnbull & Sons wee based in Greenock.  They were based  in Glasgow from 1865 to 1884.

The fashions, looser suits,  lounge suits with deep cuffs and non-matching waistcoats suggest that the photo may have been taken around 1870.

[Dating Old Photographs:  Robert Pols]

If you can provide a more accurate date (possibly referring to a Paisley trade directory) please email me so that I can pass on the answer.

 

Answer 1

The Sitter

Thank you to  Dan MacMeekin for letting me know that he has now discovered more about the photograph above.

Dan writes:

"A revelation  -  this photograph has been identified by a New Zealand relative of mine as Thomas McMiken, 1816-1888, of Gatehouse of Fleet.

He was one of my great-grandfather's brothers.

Dan MacMeekin, Washington, USA:  October 4, 2007

 

Answer 2

Chromotype Process

The back of the cabinet print above states that Turnbull & Co are licensees for the Chromotype and other processes.

Robert Lansdale, editor, 'Photographic Canadiana', writes:

"By the way the image of the gentleman seated in the chair does not  appear to be a Chromotype as the highlights appear faded and burned.  Carbon/chromotype prints are noted for the skin tones and do not fade.

Many photographers bought the rights to the processes but soon found it was too difficult,  or that there were easier ways to make prints.  They continued to promote that they offered Chromotype and Lambertype prints.

The bromide print came in  about the 1880s and overtook the market."

Robert Lansdale:  December 8, 2007

Further Details

For further details of the Chromotype process and its history, Robert Lansdale recommends reading Audrey Linkman's article in 'Photographica World' (issue #91, Winter 1999/2000).

 

 

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EdinPhoto - Home Page  Please send me an e-mail ...  with your questions, comments, suggestions or news.   At any time, you can search for a word  -  perhaps a photographer's name or a photographic topic.  The search will produce a list of pages on the EdinPhoto web site where this word appears.     At any time, you can search for a word  -  perhaps a photographer's name or a photographic topic.  The search will produce a list of pages on the EdinPhoto web site where this word appears.  

Photographs and Other Images  -  These include portraits of photographers  -  photographic outings -  Princes Street views  -  Newhaven Fishwives  -  etc.  Early Photography in Edinburgh  -  Talbot, Brewster, Hill & Adamson, Early Professional Photographers in Princes Street, etc.  Professional Photographers in Edinburgh  -  1840 to 1940  -  Their names, dates of business and studio addresses.  The Photographic Society of Scotland  -  1856 to 1873  -  Lectures, Exhibitions, Outings, etc.  The History of Edinburgh Photographic Society  -  1861 to date  -  Lectures, Exhibitions, Outings, Poems, etc.  EPS Publications - EPS Handwritten Records  -  Photographic Journals  -  Trade Directories  -  Books  -  etc.  Thanks to all who have encouraged and supported me in creating the EdinPhoto web site  -  including descendants of photographers  -  researchers  -  providers of photographs and other material  Background notes on the research thal led up to the creation of this site  -   together with lists of new material added to the site since its launch.  Brief comments on how this site might be used  -  Just browsing?  -  Seeking specific information?  Please add your questions, suggestions or other comments to the Guest Book.  Links to other web sites  -  Photographic Societies  -  Photographic History  -  Family History  -  etc.  Click here to find the link to the Edinburgh Photogrpahic Society web site.

 

A selection of my photographs, many from Edinburgh throughout the year.   Also photos from Scotland, London, Iceland, Italy, Hong Kong and elsewhere     Many old maps of Edinburgh (Old Town, New Town, while City), Leith and Newhaven.  Includes several old transport maps and a comparison of old maps with recent aerial photos.   Old engravings, mailly of Edinburgh scenes.  Some from the 1820s, some from the 1890s,  some others - includes many hand-coloured examples from the 1820s.   News from Edinburgh today  -  Events, Collections, Buildings and Gardens, Transport   This site includes     1. Post card portraits taken in studios in Edinburgh:    2. Post card views either takeen/published by Ediburgh photographers or views of Edinburgh, or both.y Edinburgh    Views of Edinburgh, grouped into three sections:     1. Street views:    2. Buildings:    3. Around Edinburgh   Views of transport around Edinburgh  -  Horse drawn trams and buses, cable cars, electric trams, buses and a few railway photos.  Also several maps of Edinburgh's bus and tram routes.   Links to pages with Photos of Groups   Frequently Asked Questions

  Summary of the updates added to this site each month since the site was launched   Links to Dumbiedykes pages  Link to Granton pages  Link to Leith pages   Link to Newhaven pages   Links to Portobello pages   Link to My Recent Talks